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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Hmmmm, the same ones who deny WND also believe everything that comes out of that Soros puppet liar Arianna Huffpos site. There is an agenda and its World Socialism.



Hmmm the same people that make such claims about Soros believe everything that WND spews. There is an agenda allright. 99% of the birther argument really seems to be "I know you are but what am I." You guys cannot even argue about Obama any more it is getting so sad.




posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sinnthia
 


Sinnthia, whatever other thread this was on I have not read, so you can just throw the reading comprehension red herring out now.

I did not mention anything specific for you to say you had not read. I was addressing the general behavior I see you all exhibit. WND has been shown to lie in THIS thread and yet it is still being touted as a source. I think you get that.

I have discussed this issue with numbers of people, I have heard the attorneys Berg(Democrat), Leo Donofrio, and Stephen Pidgeon and Mario Puzzo on Blog Talk Radio, read a lot of blogs, argued with the anti-birthers.

K? I got your trophy on backorder.

Do you have reading comprehension?

It does help to write in English sentences but I am not a Nazi about it.

Then you would know that there is a difference between Native and Natural Born and you would understand why there is a difference.

Tell me about your reading comprehension. Like for example, where did you ever read me dispute that? It has nothing to do with Obama other than it is another birther shelf to pile crap on. I never even addressed it so for you to question my reading comprehension and then argue against something I never wrote is interesting. A smart guy like you who listens to all that blog radio must realize that and have an agenda.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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It does help to write in English sentences but I am not a Nazi about it.



Excuse me? What was this all about? You are pulling the bogus grammar police nonsense on me? Is that really all you have? Yes, you did accuse me of lacking reading comprehension because there were other threads on the BC issue that you assumed I have participated in and read completely, I guess because you think I cannot have been on any other forum?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Yep! Even his family have said he was born in Kenya, and even the Kenyan Parliament claim him as their own...


No one in his family ever said any such thing. Again, why do you all need to lie in support of your cause? What would be the reason you need to lie in order to get people to agree with you?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by hawaii50th
Well, once and for all here's more of it on what WND had reported on back then.


Why do you refuse to acknowledge WND is complete horseapples as a source? Why do you refuse to respond to posts pointing out to you that you are standing behind proven and admitted liars? Why are you so afraid to do that?


Originally posted by hawaii50th
Thanks truther357 for this awesome info.


You should probably actually look at that info as it fails to actually back up the claim it makes. Its own proof belies it but only if you actually look at it.

Are youtube videos reliable sources and proof now?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Sinnthia, whatever other thread this was on I have not read, so you can just throw the reading comprehension red herring out now.

I did not mention anything specific for you to say you had not read. I was addressing the general behavior I see you all exhibit. WND has been shown to lie in THIS thread and yet it is still being touted as a source. I think you get that.

I have discussed this issue with numbers of people, I have heard the attorneys Berg(Democrat), Leo Donofrio, and Stephen Pidgeon and Mario Puzzo on Blog Talk Radio, read a lot of blogs, argued with the anti-birthers.

K? I got your trophy on backorder.

Do you have reading comprehension?

It does help to write in English sentences but I am not a Nazi about it.

Then you would know that there is a difference between Native and Natural Born and you would understand why there is a difference.

Tell me about your reading comprehension. Like for example, where did you ever read me dispute that? It has nothing to do with Obama other than it is another birther shelf to pile crap on. I never even addressed it so for you to question my reading comprehension and then argue against something I never wrote is interesting. A smart guy like you who listens to all that blog radio must realize that and have an agenda.


It was this comment of yours a few pages ago where you have replied to me and lumped me in with others.



How about you just finally admit that the vast majority of you birthers either cannot read or are willingly telling known lies. It can only be one of those two options when you post a lie, it is debunked, you post it again in a different thread, it is debunked, and you post it again in a different thread. So, which it it? Cannot be honest or cannot read?



How about you just finally admit that the vast majority of you birthers either cannot read or are willingly telling known lies. It can only be one of those two options when you post a lie, it is debunked, you post it again in a different thread, it is debunked, and you post it again in a different thread. So, which it it? Cannot be honest or cannot read?


And you are quibbling with me over a lack of a comma? Or starting a sentence with And? This is not an APA paper last time I checked. I will be scrutinizing all of your pots for grammar and English from now on. I don't worry excessively about this, but it does bug me when people say free speach instead of free speech. You see, I usually use pretty good punctuation and I don't add commas usually where they are not needed, and I never add an apostrophe to a plural unless it denotes ownership of something, so you are griping over my informality because it is a convenient way to insult. If you had any real argument, you wouldn't rely on such things. In fact, it's rather specious of you, and kind of silly.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:11 AM
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Immaculate, please do your homework. Citizenship and eligibility for POTUS are not the same thing. A person who comes to the States from a foreign country can apply for citizenship. That does not mean that person can become President. Likewish, Native Born is different from Natural Born. You are mixing it up and then telling me that all you have to do is be a Citizen. Yes, you have to be Natural Born.

There is a good discussion of what exactly it means to be Natural Born.


The first Congress passed the Naturalization Act of 1790.
And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…
That act was repealed with the uniform rule of the Naturalization Act of 1795 and new language in Section 3:and the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States:


source: www.thepostemail.com...
The idea here is that Obama Sr was not a resident of the States, although he did attend college here. To be a resident he would have to have applied for a residency. I doubt that is what happened. You cannot automatically become a resident through marriage to a citizen, although some people have argued this in blogs. I happen to know it is not true. It would be interesting if an acquired residency for Obama Sr did turn up, but due to him being a British subject under the British Nationality Act of 1948, it is more likely Obama Jr is a British subject. There are some issues around Stanley Ann's status too. Obama Sr can not have conferred American citizenship to Obama Jr. but he could confer British citizenship.
I think its a very good discussion, and maybe you have something you could add to it.

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
But cmon you guys should know better than to use OBama's own website FightTheSmears and Huffpo and Factcheck which is Annenberg Foundation(Bill Ayers the Weatherman).
You guys just must have a need to believe the Pied Piper.

This has to be the most dishonest gathering of birthers I have ever seen.


Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
 


About the digitization, an article can be photocopied then digitized, but in this case it was found that it was not based on a photocopy of an actual document. I know you do not want to hear that because Obama is your savior.
www.wnd.com...


Relying on WND, Corsi, Berg, Taitz? You guys must have a need to believe any halfwit with a blog.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Yep! Even his family have said he was born in Kenya, and even the Kenyan Parliament claim him as their own...


No one in his family ever said any such thing. Again, why do you all need to lie in support of your cause? What would be the reason you need to lie in order to get people to agree with you?


In fact the grandma in Kenya said it. Perhaps you can prove she did not. Are you going to use the Annenberg Factcheck for that? Also the Kenyan Parliament said it. But I am not going to go looking for that now. I will have to do it later because I have had a giant headache for the last 12 hours. So good night for now.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by SlyingFaucers
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It was more of a personal thing like a diary...

cheers!


60 years later, who has that book? Did they all keep a copy and have it at the ready for 60 years?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
So let me know if you have a way to refute that.


Hawaiian Amended birth certificates for people born outside the US denote the birthplace on the certificate. If you are suggesting that Obama's birth certificate is real but is an amended one then you still need to look at where it says he was born. His says Honolulu which is inside the US.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
You really should stop with the race baiting and race warfare. I've never seen anything like it all my life. It's a strawman argument anyway, and Obama and his wife have used both race and class warfare this whole time since they campaigned.


Maybe birthers need to stop using race in their emails, blogs, and tweets.

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
it is more likely Obama Jr is a British subject.


Yet another birther lie, as he was born in the USA. Why do birthers persist in telling lies?


There are some issues around Stanley Ann's status too


Only to birthers who use the lying site WND, and those that refuse to accept that a black man is the legal POTUS!



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Oh please Sinnthia, you are posting Huffpo while decrying Corsi? But I suppose if you are a Progressive, then Arianna's your gal.

You mean I am quoting Huffpo as well as the Department of health, etc. Yes, yes I am. Can you refute the story? When people bash WND and Corsi like we do, we can refute the claim they are making too. Can you do that? Or can you just offer off topic distractions.


Oh looky what your Progressive goddess is involved in

biggovernment.com... -personal-attacks/


Wow. That really refutes the story and proves you right about Obama.
Cannot attack the story or the legitimacy of the reporting so you go after the owner of the site on something unrelated.
Toss up another lie from Corsi so I can show you how this actually goes.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
In fact the grandma in Kenya said it.


Yet another birther lie - why not post the whole transcript, not the one edited by birthers!
www.salon.com...
" MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii."


Also the Kenyan Parliament said it.


Yet another birther lie, the Kenyan parliament never claimed that, just one MP!
urbanlegends.about.com...



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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It does help to write in English sentences but I am not a Nazi about it.



Excuse me? What was this all about? You are pulling the bogus grammar police nonsense on me?

Are the words blurry on your screen? I said it helps but I am NOT a Nazi about it. How do you take that to mean the EXACT OPPOSITE? Please do tell.

Is that really all you have?

Not even close. Did you happen to notice all those other posts? No, you and the OP magically seem to only be able to read about 1 out of every 10 posts in this thread but I assure you. I have written many things and if you think one thing from one post that you did not even read correctly constitutes "all" I have then I would be glad to give away "all" my money.

Yes, you did accuse me of lacking reading comprehension because there were other threads on the BC issue that you assumed I have participated in and read completely, I guess because you think I cannot have been on any other forum?

I never assumed any such thing and if you could read you would know that. I am not sure what you are thinking you are reading but you are imagining things and I see it is quite helpful in dodging all relevent facts and rebuttals. You cannot refute the department of health so you argue about grammar and reading. Again, what I wrote was


It does help to write in English sentences but I am not a Nazi about it.

I am not sure what else I can do to help you understand what I write any more clearly. Help me out. I am using the smallest words I can at this point.



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by userid1
 


Look, the BC Gibbs himself states he put on the Net is fake. Why has Obama spent so much money hiding the real one that is supposedly on file in Hi? Why doesn't he just put the real one out there? Why is he still doing this and fighting these lawsuits? Several million to date. If those State officials recant what they have said, they can be brought to court for perjury, so why would they change their statements now? They have been protecting him. Another thing is that Elena Kagan's name is on the dockets of some of those cases, as she was handling them for him. And that was before she was appointed as a Supreme Court Justice.
dailypaul.com...

www.supremecourt.gov.../docketfiles/09-8857.htm
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-Proof that Obama has spent a dime hiding his BC please.
-Why doesn't he just put the real one out there? I answered that question for you - ALL you had to do was read the article that was linked, but you couldn't be bothered...



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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You are quoting MSNBC and you have the gall to ridicule me and insult my self-esteem? Yah well, people like you are the ones who refuse to see what the guy is really about.
Please see my above post. You have nothing. Why would I even bother to look at an MSNBC mainstream media who is all about protecting him? Just like you bots keep dredging up Politifact and Factchecker and Huffpo and DailyKos ad nauseum. You are the one who should be ashamed. You would allow a fraud like him and you support him even after he has shown his ineptitude.


And your argument is "The Obama File" or "American Thinker"?
Let's see...
1 - On the one hand I have a globally accredited news organization - on the other you have...web sites.

2 - On the one hand I provide you a direct quote from an ex-Hawaii official with first hand knowledge of the situation obtained during an interview, and on the other you provide me some web site that states the following on it opening page as it's credo: "The Obama File Archive is an open website that documents the life and times of Barack Hussein Obama II. It is a responsible, opposition resource. I have no requirement to be "fair and balanced." ..."

Yeah, I have that gall.

"Just like you bots keep dredging up Politifact and Factchecker and Huffpo and DailyKos ad nauseum." Really? Please show me where I quoted from any ONE of them.

Re: your above post - American Thinker - "C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8...
> That law wasn't enacted until 1982 and it would've been impossible to apply before then.

Re: your post above - The Obama Files - "This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a "Late" Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate for a birth recorded near the date of actual birth. In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late "Certificate of Birth"."
> According to HRS 338-16, the certificates must be stamped "altered" or "late" - do you see those stamps anywhere?



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