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WAR: US Pays Iraqis Who Refuse to Fight Coalition Troops

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df1

posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 03:21 PM
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In order to convince unemployed Iraqi's to not take up arms against US troops, the US troops are passing out money with few if any restrictions. The justification for doing this is the claim that opposition forces are paying Iraqi civilians to attack US troops with bonus money being provided for kills.
 



www.washingtonpost.com
Cash has become the U.S. military's first line of defense in some parts of Iraq, where U.S. soldiers are distributing money to encourage goodwill and to counter their enemies' offers of money to unemployed Iraqis willing to attack Americans, according to officers here.

Even patrol leaders now carry envelopes of cash to spend in their areas. The money comes from brigade commanders, who get as much as $50,000 to $100,000 a month to distribute for local rehabilitation and emergency welfare projects through the Commanders Emergency Response Program.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


We have no way of controlling how the money is spent, for all we know they could be buying weapons to attack our troops. We have no way of verifying that they don't take the money while continuing to attack US troops.

EDIT: Inflammatory and overly biased comments removed.

[edit on 26-7-2004 by Banshee]

[edit on 7-27-2004 by Valhall]




posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 03:28 PM
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Your tax dollars at work?

This is the craziest idea ever.

"Well maybe they'll hate us less if we pay them off!"

Er, yeah.



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 05:09 PM
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Like I said before, this administration thinks that US is money making bottomless pit.

While our deficit is in the trillions this administration is giving away our hard earning money.



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Like I said before, this administration thinks that US is money making bottomless pit.

While our deficit is in the trillions this administration is giving away our hard earning money.


Right now, it's Iraq's money that they're giving away.


For more than a year, the Commanders Emergency Response Program was funded with $105 million taken from Iraqi reconstruction funds. But the Defense Department has agreed to begin paying for the program and has requested $300 million as part of its fiscal 2005 budget request to Congress.


We'll see if they tighten the purse strings when the US starts paying for it.


df1

posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Right now, it's Iraq's money that they're giving away.

The bookkeeping on "Iraq's" money, as you call it, is so shoddy that you can not possibly have any basis in making such a statement. From where I sit, there is no visible Iraq money.
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posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 05:54 PM
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It's disturbing that we would have to hand out petty cash, instead of lumber, food, tools, etc. This is only teaching them to accept peace at the highest bidder. This does nothing for the reconstruction of Iraq.



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 06:07 PM
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I do have a basis in fact for that statement.
Right from the Coalition Provisional Authority.

View the last excel file that they posted on their site:
cpa.gov...

Here is the source of the money for the Development Fund for Iraq:



Cash Inflow (Since Inception)

Oil For Food $8,100,000,000

Proceeds from Oil Exports $11,111,692,362

UNSCR 1483 - Repatriated Funds $1,014,805,645

Interest Income - Treasury Bills $33,874,372

Interest Income - Overnight Deposits, Repurchase Agreements $7,636,464

Returned L/C Funding $3,686,295

Other Deposits $542,455

Donations $20,000

United Nations World Food Program $145,878,779

Vested Assets (Including Interest) $16,291,014

Transactional Deposits from Public Sector entities $162,954,456

Total Cash Inflow $20,597,381,846


And here are the disbursements of that money:


Baghdad Central $3,294,750.00
Central Bank of Iraq $19,674,105.44
CJTF#7 $9,606,184.18
Coalition Military Assistance Training Team $16,248,317.94
Commanders Emergency Response Program $360,554,507.03
Communication Support Office $1,659,897.06
Comptrollers Office $3,565,200.00
CPA Front Office $2,774,978.44
Governance $10,000.00
Ministry of Agriculture $31,250,385.80
Ministry of Communications $2,080,000.00
Ministry of Culture $20,000.00
Ministry of Defense $562,711.50
Ministry of Education $1,100,000.00
Ministry of Electricity $639,205,316.51
Ministry of Finance $7,711,940,159.57
Ministry of Health -$55,033,103.15
Ministry of Housing and Construction $405,031.66
Ministry of Industry and Minerals $18,950.00
Ministry of Interior $47,852,851.64
Ministry of Justice $1,000,219.50
Ministry of National Security & Defense $3,130,506.39
Ministry of Oil $2,012,397,915.48
Ministry of Planning $5,558,698.00
Ministry of Public Works $26,116.00
Ministry of Trade $444,076,620.36
Ministry of Transportation $1,706,687.00
Office of Security Cooperation $40,419,321.46
Private Sector Development $13,665.00
Program Management Office $76,720,000.00
Rapid Regional Response Program $244,216,497.75
Regional Projects - CPA South $46,783,087.16
State Oil Marketing Organization $76,620,172.65
Strategic Communications $361,000.00
World Food Programme $143,376,100.00
Grand Total $11,893,196,850.37


df1

posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 06:15 PM
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Which line items represents the pay back to the US for its cash outlay to remove Saddam, Iraq liberation and continued maintenance to support the current government?

If none, when is that suppose to begin?



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by df1
Which line items represents the pay back to the US for its cash outlay to remove Saddam, Iraq liberation and continued maintenance to support the current government?

If none, when is that suppose to begin?


My response to you was regarding the news article that you had posted stating the coalition was giving cash away to Iraqis.

That money was from the CERP, which was funded by funds from the DFI.
The funds for the DFI came from money from Oil Sales and money earned during the Oil For Food program. So that is Iraqs money they are giving away to those Iraqis.

It appears that the government is also being run on Iraqi money.


The US has set aside some of it's own money for rebuilding Iraq but very little has been spent.

Boston.com
Only $366 million of the $18.4 billion US aid package had been spent as of June 22, the White House budget office told Congress in a report that offers the first detailed accounting of the massive reconstruction package.

Thus far, according to the report, nothing from the package has been spent on construction, health care, sanitation, and water projects. More money has been spent on administration than all projects related to education, human rights, democracy, and governance.


You can argue that money that the US spends on reconstruction should be paid back but don't expect them to pay for the bombs or the soldiers.



[edit on 26-7-2004 by AceOfBase]



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 06:49 PM
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As AceOfBase said, very little of the U.S money earmarked for Iraq has been spent.

This tactic if true smacks of sheer desperation.


The idea that we should be expecting the Iraqis to pay back what the US has spent is nonsensical. This 'liberation' was the US's idea. The Iraqi people didn't enter into any 'contract' with the US.


df1

posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by kegs
The idea that we should be expecting the Iraqis to pay back what the US has spent is nonsensical.

My thought would be that the oil companies should pay. And I suspect that if the secret cheney energy meeting papers ever become public that we will find at least an implied contract to justify repayment.

The iraqi's have paid enough, in blood.



posted on Jul, 26 2004 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by df1

Originally posted by kegs
The idea that we should be expecting the Iraqis to pay back what the US has spent is nonsensical.

My thought would be that the oil companies should pay. And I suspect that if the secret cheney energy meeting papers ever become public that we will find at least an implied contract to justify repayment.

The iraqi's have paid enough, in blood.


No problem.
Some of that money that the US is spending is going towards protection of the Oil companies and Haliburton susidiaries.

In addition the the money the US is spending to protect them, they've also been overcharging the goverment and they were even charging the government for driving empty trucks.

www.sunherald.com...




[edit on 26-7-2004 by AceOfBase]




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