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Obama Just Said that 'Welfare' Made This Country Great...While Trying to Quote Lincoln...

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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Obama said in not so many words, Medicaid/SS made this country great.

Medicaid/SS = welfare

Ergo

Welfare made this country great.


 
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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by shtf2012
reply to post by fredvcall
 


Uhhh.... no
Welfare keeps a mob from breaking in my house and stringing me up.
Listen ok take away welfare and see what happens go ahead i dare ya.

Some one me thinks just likes ta argue. lol!
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Well, if a mob is breaking into your house, you've got more problems than simple welfare. You live in the wrong neighborhood.


Believe me they'll eventually get to everyone's neighborhood.
Welfare is more a statement of our society or lack of.
But it is needed.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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Okay, a National Public Announcement to just about everyone who doesn't understand the International Global Economy.

If your country (America) is not corporate friendly, corporations will move to other countries. And there won't be any jobs in America.

Now, that wasn't too difficult to understand, was it?



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by shtf2012

Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by shtf2012
reply to post by fredvcall
 


Uhhh.... no
Welfare keeps a mob from breaking in my house and stringing me up.
Listen ok take away welfare and see what happens go ahead i dare ya.

Some one me thinks just likes ta argue. lol!
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Well, if a mob is breaking into your house, you've got more problems than simple welfare. You live in the wrong neighborhood.


Believe me they'll eventually get to everyone's neighborhood.
Welfare is more a statement of our society or lack of.
But it is needed.


Welfare means that the people who are breaking into your house are doing so with cheap Saturday Night Specials, instead of the more expensive weapons.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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reply to post by fredvcall
 


Exactly. Corporations are our masters. So, in order to survive, we should give them free reign, as it is the only way to ensure we have enough jobs so that we can afford to keep buying their products. Because a life without corporate jobs would truly be the end of Freedom and Liberty.

I don't know about using NPR as your source, though. They are socialistic muslim terrorists.
edit on 14-4-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by fredvcall
Okay, a National Public Announcement to just about everyone who doesn't understand the International Global Economy.

If your country (America) is not corporate friendly, corporations will move to other countries. And there won't be any jobs in America.

Now, that wasn't too difficult to understand, was it?


Try looking up the bronze age collapse.
Global economy's are extremely globally dangerous.
and about saturday night specials.
When's the last time you saw one.
Try glocks ak's or any other high cap firearm.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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correct me if i am wrong here but if someone is on welfare that aren't paying into social security and then turn around and receive social secuity because the never bothered to get off the butts and get a job

which is how social security is suppose to be funded from ones life time earnings.


they are evil incarnate.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by shtf2012

Originally posted by fredvcall
Okay, a National Public Announcement to just about everyone who doesn't understand the International Global Economy.

If your country (America) is not corporate friendly, corporations will move to other countries. And there won't be any jobs in America.

Now, that wasn't too difficult to understand, was it?


Try looking up the bronze age collapse.
Global economy's are extremely globally dangerous.
and about saturday night specials.
When's the last time you saw one.
Try glocks ak's or any other high cap firearm.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Okay, I give up. How did the 'Bronze Age' sneak its way into this discussion?



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by fredvcall
 


correct me if i am wrong here but if someone is on welfare that aren't paying into social security and then turn around and receive social secuity because the never bothered to get off the butts and get a job

which is how social security is suppose to be funded from ones life time earnings.


they are evil incarnate.


About all I can add is a mugshot of Charles Ponzi.....

www.websters-online-dictionary.org...



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by shtf2012

Originally posted by fredvcall
Okay, a National Public Announcement to just about everyone who doesn't understand the International Global Economy.

If your country (America) is not corporate friendly, corporations will move to other countries. And there won't be any jobs in America.

Now, that wasn't too difficult to understand, was it?


Try looking up the bronze age collapse.
Global economy's are extremely globally dangerous.
and about saturday night specials.
When's the last time you saw one.
Try glocks ak's or any other high cap firearm.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Okay, I give up. How did the 'Bronze Age' sneak its way into this discussion?


LOL Thought that would slow you down.
If your food is produced in another country or parts for industry.
War or any other interuption can and will collapse whole civilizations.
The sea people in the bronze age stopped grain shipments from egypt.
Some scholars think more people died then from starvation than died from the black death.
Not to mention it plunged the whole know world in the mid east into a dark age that lasted 400 years.
And collapsed every know civilization except Assyria and Elam.
It can and will happen again.
IE the danger of global economy's.
I know i diverge.
Outa here.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by fredvcall
 


Exactly. Corporations are our masters. So, in order to survive, we should give them free reign, as it is the only way to ensure we have enough jobs so that we can afford to keep buying their products. Because a life without corporate jobs would truly be the end of Freedom and Liberty.

I don't know about using NPR as your source, though. They are socialistic muslim terrorists.
edit on 14-4-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)


The alternative is small business owner. But, then, if nobody else has jobs, nobody has money to buy your small business product. Drat the Catch-22s in life.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by shtf2012

Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by shtf2012

Originally posted by fredvcall
Okay, a National Public Announcement to just about everyone who doesn't understand the International Global Economy.

If your country (America) is not corporate friendly, corporations will move to other countries. And there won't be any jobs in America.

Now, that wasn't too difficult to understand, was it?


Try looking up the bronze age collapse.
Global economy's are extremely globally dangerous.
and about saturday night specials.
When's the last time you saw one.
Try glocks ak's or any other high cap firearm.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Okay, I give up. How did the 'Bronze Age' sneak its way into this discussion?


LOL Thought that would slow you down.
If your food is produced in another country or parts for industry.
War or any other interuption can and will collapse whole civilizations.
The sea people in the bronze age stopped grain shipments from egypt.
Some scholars think more people died then from starvation than died from the black death.
Not to mention it plunged the whole know world in the mid east into a dark age that lasted 400 years.
And collapsed every know civilization except Assyria and Elam.
It can and will happen again.
IE the danger of global economy's.
I know i diverge.
Outa here.
edit on 14-4-2011 by shtf2012 because: (no reason given)


Do you know what finally stopped the Black Death Plague? So many people were dead that there were not enough carriers of the disease left to keep the Black Death Plague going.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by fredvcall
 


correct me if i am wrong here but if someone is on welfare that aren't paying into social security and then turn around and receive social secuity because the never bothered to get off the butts and get a job

which is how social security is suppose to be funded from ones life time earnings.


they are evil incarnate.


Lies. Apparently no one bothered to read what I posted about all the dis-info being thrown around about "welfare"...namely that people on welfare don't work and are sitting around on their "butts". Lies. Dis-info. But hey, why bother telling the truth when it doesn't support your beliefs/point of view. Arguments built on lies will be exposed and fall like the flimsy house of cards that they are.

Ignorance is evil incarnate.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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lies?

ignorance?

welfare is suppose to go to people who cant work yes or no?

if you can work you don't need to be on welfare.

if your on welfare you getting paid by taxes instead of paying into them.


there is no lie in anything i have said here but hey feel free to look at like through your rose colored glasses.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by outandopen
www.sott.net...

Without welfare crime would be crazy high.


Did you actually say that the crime rates are low in neighborhoods populated by welfare recipients? That was hysterical. I needed that laugh. Thank you.



Most people who depend on welfare are White and live in suburbs or rural areas, a recent study shows. The findings are contrary to the popular belief that most welfare recipients are unemployed, inner-city minorities
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Either "Deny Ignorance"...or take your lies and dis-info elsewhere...they have no place in a site devoted to seeking out the truth.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
lies?

ignorance?

welfare is suppose to go to people who cant work yes or no?

if you can work you don't need to be on welfare.

if your on welfare you getting paid by taxes instead of paying into them.


there is no lie in anything i have said here but hey feel free to look at like through your rose colored glasses.


I hate repeating myself, but I will. Because I find you need to do that with some people on this site. No biggie. But, apparently most people chose to ignore my previous post because it doesn't support their own beliefs / political dogma. In the time you took to reply to me, you couldn't possibly have read my previous post on welfare dis-info, clicked on those links and read all those articles/reports. Ignorance? Yes. Lies? Yes. And now apparently a blatant desire to ignore facts/evidence that goes against your own beliefs...because you didn't even bother to read anything I posted.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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like your dismissing anything else anyone else has to say that differs from your beliefs.

yeah you are wasting your time with me.

difference is i dont go around calling people ignorant


heres an ats tip making the topic about a poster doesnt add anything to the topic being discussed
edit on 15-4-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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It all comes down to one thing. These people hate the middle class and want to see it destroyed...and they won't rest until they have eliminated everything that ever made this country great, until the masses are starving, and toiling in a perpetuity of wage slavery.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by meeneecat
reply to post by Wolfenz
 


It all comes down to one thing. These people hate the middle class and want to see it destroyed...and they won't rest until they have eliminated everything that ever made this country great, until the masses are starving, and toiling in a perpetuity of wage slavery.


what really bugs me is that they seem to be seemingly clueless to the end goal, hack the wages and turn the
current populace into a clone of the Indian, Chinese work force... Such a thing cannot be undone



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by fredvcall

Originally posted by OverMan
The truth is that everyone is a little bit socialist and a little bit communist and a little bit conservative and a little bit liberal/progressive etc etc...



You might have some Communist DNA in you. Take that up with your parents. But you'll find 24 carat diamonds in my bloodstream before you find any Communism.


Would those be "blood diamonds"? Just askin'. So I guess you were not raised by a family then. You raised yourself? Or were raised by the state? Because all families operate on a communal (socialist) structure. Or did your mommy let you starve when you were a baby because you could not "pick yourself up by your own bootstraps and walk out of your crib to get a job"...were you "entitled" to that crib & baby food? or were you receiving a "handout" on the back of another person's labor. Do you drive on public roads? Do you live in a city/town that has a police force? firemen? Have you ever taken any medicine (gov't research funded) ? Have you ever been to a hospital? Do you use public airwaves? Watch TV? Radio? Do you eat food? Food that has partly been funded by gov't subsidies and shipped on public roads? Do you buy anything from a corporation? Because last time I checked, corporations received 75billion in gov't "welfare". I suggest if you don't want to be confused with a "evil commie socialist" you cease use of any of these services immediately, along with anything else that was funded by public money. (and by the way, I will gladly let you keep your tax dollars so that you can build your own roads, hire your own policemen, and research your own medicines) Or maybe it would just be better to look at reality and understand that all modern democracies are built on a "socialist" "capitalistic" hybrid.


As an economic system, socialism is the direct allocation of capital goods (means of production) to meet economic demands so that production is oriented toward use and accounting is based on some physical magnitude, such as physical quantities or a direct measure of labour time.[6][7] Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on the principle of individual merit/individual contribution
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Wow
production based on demand and supply. the use of "markets" to distribute goods and services...individual income based on merit/contribution to society. What a "tyrannical""evil" economic system! I don't know, maybe some of the African countries would be a better "fit" for you than this country. I hear they don't have many public funded roads/hospitals/police/firemen/medical research, ect., and very weak/small central governments if any there...and they also have lots of DIAMONDS!



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