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Originally posted by fredvcall
You did notice that Obama didn't dare try to quote Reagan during this speech.
Anyway, Obama is right now making a campaign speech....which has absolutely nothing to do with reducing the deficit.........where he subliminally/supraliminally promises that if re-elected in 2012, he will continue to push for everything he believes has made America great: which is more welfare.
Hmmmm. So far all the welfare programs are failing. Including FDR's social security programs. It's taken a while, but Socialism is failing BIG time in America.
Entrepreneurs and industrialists are taking their talents to other countries. There are fewer and fewer jobs in America.
Welfare is balancing on Monopoly money. You can pass GO all you want, cause two hundred dollars in Monopoly money won't get you much.
In the Obama/Soros plan, the rich get richer, while the poor get poorer.
In the Soviet times there was a great shortage of all consumer products. Clothes or food were no exception. In order to buy some bread people were ready to spend hours and hours queuing up.
Originally posted by Janky Red
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Question Fate
nope the rich didn't break it and welfare hasn't made this country great it what has destroyed it .
just how and where do you think all the wealth came from? welfare recipients?
yeah all my rich buddies are the reason why
you have a job
you can go get a loan
you can have all those cool little things that you just cant live without like the computer your using and the internet so you can hate on them.
without the rich you would be living in a cave,playing with sticks, with no food and no clothes.
or do you think everything you have comes from the welfare state?
Why are so enamored with the rich?
BTW this country was fine for decade with much higher tax rates and the same social programs in place, explain that please?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I must have hit a nerve,
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusYes I do think you are a bit on the communist side, even if you do not realize it. But, let's talk about some real things, instead of this knee jerk cussing me out and going all ballistic.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
and it is obvious that having Russian girlfriend does not make you an expert in Russian history or economics.
Apparently, you along with POTUS and his commie friends did not learn the lesson of the failures of the Soviet Union in their experiment with centralization of the means of production.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusMy instructor happened to have told me how the mafia now runs business in Russian. His words, not mine. He's from Astrakhan.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusBut I digress, perhaps I should have cited my source on the centralized control of the means of production, which is communism, and what former Soviet Union had. My source is the DeVry University textbook on Economics, the exact title which escapes me at present, and later I will check it. But basically, the concept is that when all the means of production is centrally controlled by govt, the supply chain goes out of balance, because the govt cannot predict the demand of the market for the products on such a mass level. The disruption of the supply chain meant that goods were not always available.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusNow if you really want to argue this point,
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusIt sesems our own govt wants to pattern things after Russia for some reason, only going in the opposite direction, that is more centralized control and nationalization of industry, while the inflationary apparatus is still working.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorusBut seems POTUS wants us more on the old Soviet model.
Currently, we ration traffic capacity the same way the old Soviet Union rationed bread–by having everyone wait in line. It’s a wasteful way to allocate bread, and it’s a wasteful way to allocate scarce road space at rush hour. Pricing the roads to reduce peak volumes even slightly–by encouraging those with flexible schedules to take the trip at some other time, go by another mode, or forego the trip altogether–makes the system work better for everyone else and actually increases its capacity.
The technology for implementing road pricing is already in hand and has been implemented around the country through “fast pass” electronic tolling. Large scale demonstrations of road pricing have had a significant effect on congestion in London and Stockholm.
Entrepreneurs and industrialists are taking their talents to other countries. There are fewer and fewer jobs in America.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Dwigt
What else I find amusing, that most liberals do not wish to address, is the fact that the top 2% of the richest pay the most in annual taxes....but we need to tax them even more. Where is that logic? if the middle class paid the most in taxes, and we were told we may have to pay more, we would be pissed too. But we dont want to discuss that.
There is new data for 2001. The share of total income taxes paid by the top 1% fell to 33.89% from 37.42% in 2000. This is mainly because their income share (not just wages) fell from 20.81% to 17.53%. However, their average tax rate actually rose slightly from 27.45% to 27.50%.
www.taxfoundation.org...
The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 33.7 percent of all individual income taxes in 2002. This group of taxpayers has paid more than 30 percent of individual income taxes since 1995. Moreover, since 1990 this group’s tax share has grown faster than their income share.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
What else I find amusing, that most liberals do not wish to address, is the fact that the top 2% of the richest pay the most in annual taxes....but we need to tax them even more. Where is that logic?
Originally posted by clintdelicious
reply to post by Afterl1fe
Why not vote for a 3rd party though? Dont just throw your vote away, there are plenty of 3rd party candidates and if everyone who didnt vote voted for ne of them you could have a more unknown person in who hasn't been corrupted
Originally posted by illuminazislayer
reply to post by fredvcall
Entrepreneurs and industrialists are taking their talents to other countries. There are fewer and fewer jobs in America.
Yes they are taking jobs to other countries, but they are paying workers very low wages in those countries and are basically exploiting them and their countries, and at the same time are making huge profits. So it is a win win situation for American entrepreneurs.
Originally posted by Rocky Black
reply to post by fredvcall
Yes I see all the poor recipients of the welfar system pulling up to the office to sign up in the lexus's and the what not.
I should go down to the local office and take some pictures of the scammers.
One thing to be a single mom out of work with a dead beat ex.
but some of the people down there are scammers.
Go get a job you lazy bums.
I see them all the time.
How can one be broke and on welfare and be a very fat person.
Go to any other country and usually the poor are malnurished.
Nooooo not here.
They eat out every night and drive around in a BMW or Lexus and sit on the porch all day and drink beers.
I understand that some need assistance when diasaster stikes.
But to this extent the poloticians should all be fired and we should start over.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by fredvcall
There are plenty of democratic capitalist countries with no social services. Lagos is an excellent example! We do not keep people out of the dirt because it is the humane thing to do, we do it to maintain a certain standard of living for us all. They will bring us all down with shanty towns/Tin Cities an Americans will starve on the streets etc. Attacks on medicare, medicaid and our social services are direct attacks upon our living standards.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA!
These is fighting words friend! I will fight and die is need be to defend the American way of life I hold so dear, many millions will fight as well! If its war you want just tread a little further!edit on 14-4-2011 by Donkey_Dean because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by fredvcall
What kind of person would study to be poor? Except those on welfare who are raking in big bucks.
That is the most interesting sentence I have ever read. People study to be poor so they can get on welfare to rake in big bucks???? Um what? If they are raking in big bucks, they what happened to them studying to be poor? If welfare makes people rich, why are we not all giving up our homes, cars, healthcare to go live in a shelter and get rich like them?