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Topic started on 13-4-2011 @ 01:35 PM by fredvcall

You did notice that Obama didn't dare try to quote Reagan during this speech.

Anyway, Obama is right now making a campaign speech....which has absolutely nothing to do with reducing the deficit.........where he subliminally/supraliminally promises that if re-elected in 2012, he will continue to push for everything he believes has made America great: which is more welfare.

Hmmmm. So far all the welfare programs are failing. Including FDR's social security programs. It's taken a while, but Socialism is failing BIG time in America.

Entrepreneurs and industrialists are taking their talents to other countries. There are fewer and fewer jobs in America.

Welfare is balancing on Monopoly money. You can pass GO all you want, cause two hundred dollars in Monopoly money won't get you much.

In the Obama/Soros plan, the rich get richer, while the poor get poorer.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:42 PM by Whereweheaded

They will never learn that Government intervention will only break down the system..It has been proven over the last several decades. The bigger the government, the harder we fall! ( and that is regardless who is in office, look at bush , claimed to be conservative, but was all for big government)

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:45 PM by Afterl1fe

Originally posted by fredvcall
You did notice that Obama didn't dare try to quote Reagan during this speech.

Anyway, Obama is right now making a campaign speech....which has absolutely nothing to do with reducing the deficit.........where he subliminally/supraliminally promises that if re-elected in 2012, he will continue to push for everything he believes has made America great: which is more welfare.

Hmmmm. So far all the welfare programs are failing. Including FDR's social security programs. It's taken a while, but Socialism is failing BIG time in America.

Entrepreneurs and industrialists are taking their talents to other countries. There are fewer and fewer jobs in America.

Welfare is balancing on Monopoly money. You can pass GO all you want, cause two hundred dollars in Monopoly money won't get you much.

In the Obama/Soros plan, the rich get richer, while the poor get poorer.

I Have lost all hope in this country, and any other country for that matter.
It's all going to hell in a hand basket. I for one will not be voting in this election or any future elections. I'm tired, and I'm fed up. [Snip] 'Em!

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:47 PM by Whereweheaded

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Though I understand your frustration, but by not par taking in the voting process, if your vote does actually count, ( which we all know its rigged anyways ) but for the sake of argument, wouldn't you want your vote to matter? Secondly, if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:47 PM by Chance321

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Can't say I'm surprised. Nothing he does is aimed at helping America, this bungling idiot couldn't run a lemonade stand without screwing it up. Really, what has he done to help America? What? Extend unemployment for three years? A stimulus package that fell flat on it's face? National health care that nobody wanted? a ban on oil drilling? He needs four more years to finish turning this country into a third world nation, we're on the fast track now.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:49 PM by fredvcall

Makes you wonder how long Washington can survive if ALL the vacationers when somewhere else to spend their money than Washington?

Also makes you think about Egypt and Libya......if Obama ordered our troops to fire on American citizens, would Obamacare pay for the wounded rehabilitation and the burial expenses?

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:50 PM by Shenon

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Afterl1fe

Though I understand your frustration, but by not par taking in the voting process, if your vote does actually count, ( which we all know its rigged anyways ) but for the sake of argument, wouldn't you want your vote to matter? Secondly, if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!

If there even is an Election

Sorry,i just can´t see the US surviving much longer as it is.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:50 PM by Whereweheaded

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He extended the Patriot Act, that was good right ? ( yes Im being sarcastic!)
He allowed for higher gas prices
Extended the illegal wars
And hasn't repealed anything with the ongoing molestation at the local airports

gee....he really hasn't done anything for the good of the people?

Oh wait, he went on several vacations...oh nevermind...tax payers burden there~

Damn....just an empty suit after all, then again we all predicted that long ago!

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:52 PM by Whereweheaded

Originally posted by Shenon

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Afterl1fe

Though I understand your frustration, but by not par taking in the voting process, if your vote does actually count, ( which we all know its rigged anyways ) but for the sake of argument, wouldn't you want your vote to matter? Secondly, if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!

If there even is an Election

Sorry,i just can´t see the US surviving much longer as it is.

That is a very high possibility! We may not be around much longer...its widely speculated that the invasion of Libya is simply the " new " cold war with China~

abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:52 PM by fredvcall

Originally posted by Shenon

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Afterl1fe

Though I understand your frustration, but by not par taking in the voting process, if your vote does actually count, ( which we all know its rigged anyways ) but for the sake of argument, wouldn't you want your vote to matter? Secondly, if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!

If there even is an Election

Sorry,i just can´t see the US surviving much longer as it is.

Agreed....America can't survivev much longer as a Welfare Liberal Socialist movement. So, does an economic collapse act as a harbinger or a resurrection of the old values that DID make America great?

Sometimes you just got to throw a monkey wrench into the machine to get it to start working right again.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:53 PM by fredvcall

Really, what would happen if the federal government closed down?

For one, they couldn't borrow any more money from China.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:54 PM by neo96

"welfare made this country great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"the more fortunate can afford to pay more"

"at some point you have made enough"

reagan "government isn't the solution its the problem"

grow government keep taking and taking money for the people who make and keep money in this country

end result everyone on welfare

once there are no more rich who are you going to work for?
where are you going to get your loans?
where are you going to get you money?

the middle class?
welfare recipients?

um nope without the evil rich folk there are no jobs, and no money in this country

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reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:58 PM by Afterl1fe

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Afterl1fe

Though I understand your frustration, but by not par taking in the voting process, if your vote does actually count, ( which we all know its rigged anyways ) but for the sake of argument, wouldn't you want your vote to matter? Secondly, if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!

Thank you for answering your own statement. "if you don't vote, then you have no grounds to complain with the end result!" Exactly my point.

Secondly: My vote doesn't matter. You know why? Because all of these people that do run for president speak with forked tongue.... It hit me, if this country is just going to go downhill, why does it matter whom I vote for if the end result is the same?

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:58 PM by Chance321

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Take a look at this jem I found, not sure if this was posted here yet. redwhitebluenews.com...
obama wants to upgrade the mexican trucks coming into this country, possibly putting more American drivers out of work.
Don't for get the $2billion obama pledged the Brazil Petrobras for oil exploration since I guess we can't do that here in the US.
Cut funding to NASA (yeah, not a huge deal considering the shape we're in, but still) so now the US has to bum rides to the space station from russia who just happened to raise the price tag.
Found this for the price tag for the US to hitch a ride to the Space Station. over $55million each. science.gaeatimes.com...

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reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 01:59 PM by Whereweheaded

reply to post by Afterl1fe

Good point, and I see your argument. But I raise you one more prong tongue!

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 02:03 PM by Whereweheaded

reply to post by Chance321

Great ! just * Snipping * great!

Obama has decided to pay $1,600 per truck to replace the old mufflers with new catalytic converters, reducing harmful diesel emissions by up to 30%…. “Free trade” isn’t so “free” after all.

redwhitebluenews.com...

ETA: 1600.00 per truck, just what the tax payers want....instead of paying for recovery, possibly implement debt recovery for its citizens we're gonna waist money on this! Never ceases to amaze me!

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reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 02:04 PM by OutKast Searcher

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Obama Just Said that 'Welfare' Made This Country Great...While Trying to Quote Lincoln

Well...Obama never mentioned the words "welfare"...right there your title is misleading. Here is what he said.

www.businessinsider.com...

Part of this American belief that we are all connected also expresses itself in a conviction that each one of us deserves some basic measure of security. We recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, hard times or bad luck, a crippling illness or a layoff, may strike any one of us. “There but for the grace of God go I,” we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities. We are a better country because of these commitments. I’ll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments

And he did quote Lincoln

www.businessinsider.com...

We believe, in the words of our first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, that through government, we should do together what we cannot do as well for ourselves.

I don't mind honest criticism...but mis-leading propaganda and outright falsehoods I do mind.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 02:08 PM by Whereweheaded

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

Part of this American belief that we are all connected also expresses itself in a conviction that each one of us deserves some basic measure of security

No one is deserving of anything? What is earned, is what is deserved.

reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 02:09 PM by dreamseeker

reply to post by fredvcall

He did not say welfare made this country great. He worded it differently. Social Security and Medicare is NOT welfare. These programs do make our country great by showing we have compassion for our weakest most vunerable citzens. I have new found respect for Obama today. He may have won my vote if he continues to fight against cutting these desperately needed social programs and benefits programs.
FDR was a great president and he would have given us the right to more equality. Read up on his second bill of rights.
By the way section 8 which is more or less a welfare program has self sufficency programs such as home ownership programs,voc rehab and much more. Without these social programs we would be like a country in Africa or a third world country where the weakest people are left to fend for themseleves. I agree these programs do make American great!

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reply posted on 13-4-2011 @ 02:11 PM by Shenon

Just something to consider for you Guys:

Question: Why do Ron and Rand Paul get away with what they are saying all the Time? Why are they still alive?

Answer: Because it doesn´t matter anymore.

If they were around ,say 4 Years ago,talking like today,they would have died in an Accident already. You know how it works.

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