What, exactly, do some of you think is coming?

Originally posted by General Izer
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There will be a build up. It has started. Enjoy the ride.

Okay, then an extinction event. So much for the Age of Aquarius. Not that it matters much, I suppose. I mean, we all die in the end anyway. Not much of a real transformation unless you embrace death as anything other than a very normal transformation that is ahead of each of us, and always has been for everyone who's ever lived. I don't know. Cataclysms have always been with us. Is scale the difference between natural catastrophe and something that ancient civilizations would've felt compelled to ink into their datebooks? Maybe but I'm still looking for something special.

reply to post by NorEaster


Ok, let me explain what I mean by saying we can't understand the concept of time.
Humans are -at least for now!- three dimensional creatures. The Universe itself is
thought to have at least eleven (!) dimensions.
Two dimensional creatures, who cannot understand what height (the third dimension)
really is, perceive the third dimension as a shadow.
Three dimensional creatures, who cannot understand what time (the forth dimension)
really is, perceive the fourth dimension as mater. !!!
BUT, two dimensional creatures, being unable to perceive the third dimension, when they
try to see us(in this case, we represent the third dimension), they cannot.
They can only see our shadow (which is our projection in their world).
Therefore, three dimensional creatures, being unable to see the fourth dimension, when they
try to do so, they can only see the mater (which is time's projection in our world), nothing more. But something more is more than sure
to exist.
Those are scientific facts. Now, I probably want to believe that in our brain lies the secret of time.
And that in time we could unravel it.
I may have misunderstood, because I thought that we use 10 - 15 % of our brain all the time,
without finding a way to use the rest of it, thus I thought that our brain had many more secrets
in store for us. I will have to study a bit on it, and let you know what I found.

I still say that the ideas such as the rapture, ect, the idea that you are one of the lucky ones who will be rescued from the coming disaster, well, that is the ptb....
if they can con half the world into believing that there is no need to worry, that they are "safe", well, they won't cause any problems when you go around destroying the planet for profit!

Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by Klassified
The “change agent” you’re looking for is fear. The change agent(s) you’re looking for are TPTB. Never in my lifetime have I seen such fear gripping the minds of the masses. As I have said before, fear is an excellent motivator and herding tool. It works like nothing else. From what I’ve read and seen regarding 2012. I believe that fear is going to crescendo this coming year. If TPTB want to institute a paradigm shift among the people, late 2012 will be an ideal time for it.

Fear and oppression are the mainstays of human existence. Not your personal edition of human existence, but then Nostradamus probably wasn't think of what you'll be experiencing in 2012 when he either did or didn't predict the coming apocalypse. No, this isn't just more of the same old PTB stuff. Those guys have always been smashing the world of the rest of us.

Understood Noreaster. I just don't buy into the metaphysical higher consciousness for all of mankind thing. The only real change I see coming (Barring catastrophic earth changes) is a manufactured change.

Originally posted by dawnstar
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and yet, everyone would wake up in the morning, and wouldn't notice those raminifactions.....
ya know there are people running around who would swear up and down that mandela died in jail, they remember hearing the news reports. I ain't never done what I am saying is possible. but I do believe someone is!!! the key to doing it "safely" is having others, not of the timeline, participating in it (aliens???) just in case you totally screw up the timeline to the extent that it can't be undone...then the ones who aren't affected by the change can step in an undo it for you....

just saying...

on a smaller scale, well, if you believe in reincarnation, well, you existed here before, and you will exist here again....you is you, regardless of time, and well, can be in a state where time isn't a restriction.....
you can change your current you by exploring your past lives and well, you can communicate somewhat with yourself then, and well....strengthen them if it is needed, counsel them to keep them from doing something that has effected you in the present, and well, you can reach ahead, and contact your future selves, and do much the same thing....
this I have done!

but, ya, I'd be willing to bet that someone, probably in the future, is playing with time in that much grander scale!!!

I'd have to see the technical specifics involved in unwinding the ramifications inherent in causal progression before I could ever sign on to such a notion. Historical continuum is pretty strict - if what we know of reality is any indication.

If you find the schematics on this, then I'll concede but until then, I'll remain skeptical on the viability of such a development.


Interestingly, my computer was attacked from this site just before I posted this reply. 5 different worms and such tried to breach my defenses. Fascinating. Good thing I have good defenses.

reply to post by NorEaster

did you look in your message box first?? just wondering, since I just looked at mine and got two quite cryptic messages from ATS admin, and well....
I really still have no idea what the heck they meant, maybe I missed something and someone can explain...
one was just the word unlock...if it was a link, I didn't follow it...
the other one had something like your hero, or our hero, with a link to one of the members....
totally have no ideal what the heck either of them were about...

Originally posted by Imogene72
reply to post by NorEaster

 

Ok, let me explain what I mean by saying we can't understand the concept of time.
Humans are -at least for now!- three dimensional creatures. The Universe itself is
thought to have at least eleven (!) dimensions.
Two dimensional creatures, who cannot understand what height (the third dimension)
really is, perceive the third dimension as a shadow.

Just so that we're clear on this, there are no intelligent 2 dimensional creatures who perceive anything at all. That analogy exists to help people imagine what a 2 dimensional being would perceive if there were such a being - which there isn't.

Three dimensional creatures, who cannot understand what time (the forth dimension)
really is, perceive the fourth dimension as mater. !!!

I do agree with you that three dimensional beings (like us) perceive the 4th dimension (the causal trajectory of Time) as matter, and that fact will debunk particle physics someday.

I may have misunderstood, because I thought that we use 10 - 15 % of our brain all the time,
without finding a way to use the rest of it, thus I thought that our brain had many more secrets
in store for us. I will have to study a bit on it, and let you know what I found.

There are more secrets, but they'll be uncovered when we finally adjust our perspective. Our brains are more than capable of learning all that we need to learn. Humans are pretty amazing already.

Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by NorEaster

 

did you look in your message box first?? just wondering, since I just looked at mine and got two quite cryptic messages from ATS admin, and well....
I really still have no idea what the heck they meant, maybe I missed something and someone can explain...
one was just the word unlock...if it was a link, I didn't follow it...
the other one had something like your hero, or our hero, with a link to one of the members....
totally have no ideal what the heck either of them were about...

I think that's a game of some sort that the board is playing. I looked into it yesterday and it's perfectly safe. This was something different. Nothing my security system couldn't handle, but it was surprising.

reply to post by NorEaster

well......
if someone from the future is playing with time like I think they are....chances are they didn't have the specifications either and it is screwed up???

Originally posted by Klassified

Understood Noreaster. I just don't buy into the metaphysical higher consciousness for all of mankind thing. The only real change I see coming (Barring catastrophic earth changes) is a manufactured change.

I'm going to try and remain open to anything positive. Hell, why not?

Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by NorEaster

 

well......
if someone from the future is playing with time like I think they are....chances are they didn't have the specifications either and it is screwed up???

Well, at least they got rid of that tail I had yesterday. Thank God for small favors.

reply to post by NorEaster

my laptop went nutty last week, all I was doing was copying links from a few articles that I found thru goggle and pasting on wordpad, to come back to ats, and post.....
and it went nutty...
my son couldn't find any viruses or anything, althrough my puter kept insisting on them being there....
my husband asked me what site I was on thinking I it was from the site, but it was Time, or some other big news outfit....
so, well, have no idea...

reply to post by NorEaster


ya know, there someone that was on art bell, claiming that there are only 144,000 souls in existance....and when the bible claims that the 144,000 will be saved, that is all the souls...
so, okay, do we have alot of people with no souls?
not exactlyl, could it be possible that a soul can manifest more than one body and have many existances within the same time frame......
there's really quite a bit we don't know, so well, those things that we think is impossible, often become possible. the philadelphia experiment, if it did occur did screwed up the timeline.....

People are getting bored of running the same programs (belief systems) preached by society, religions etc., they are realizing that they are conscious and powerful beings caught up in this five sense reality. In the coming years I think more people would start to question this reality.

And those times would be difficult for those inter-dimensional beings and their puppets (ruling elites) who are manipulating people in this reality. The turning point will be, when people would stop using money.

reply to post by illuminazislayer

if I have all the food in the world locked up in my safe, and you were hungry, would it matter if I traded my food for your money, or for your labor??
money is just a tool, the problem is that there are so many that misuse that tool and abuse others with it....
the misuse and abuse would continue unless something happened on a psche or spiritual level of the people....
and well, if that ever happened, it wouldn't matter if if we used money or just bartered for our goods and services.

reply to post by iversusvsversusi


You made me think about this a little deeper. What happens....when...

We live our entire lives observing and interacting with our surroundings and base our morals, ethics, and everything else we do off of our experiences and teachings from others and as we mature these things become the basis for our individual belief systems what ever they might be and how we choose to live our individual lives and to guide us. Good or bad, who knows, but what happens when a persons belief system totally collapses around them and they learn or realize that everything they have been told, learned or experienced was not in fact truth or reality. Depending on the circumstances, this for some could be very devastating. How would one go about realigning themselves with what would be the real reality and truth.

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Your seeing it everyday! Your living in it everyday. People try and make believe it's all going to get better! No, It is what it is...Prepare To Meet Your Maker! (HOLY BIBLE=90) (WORD FACT=90) (IN TOUCH=90) (REALITY=90)

A=1 B=2 C=3...

4Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].

5For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray.

6And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.

7For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in place after place;

8All this is but the beginning [the early pains] of the [c]birth pangs [of the [d]intolerable anguish].
Matthew Ch. 24

And Yes! Many Are Focusing On The Reality Of What Has Been Happening In These WorldWide (EVENTS)

TIME IS RUNNING DOWN FAST. 2011 - 2012 (I HOPE PEOPLE ACCEPT THE TRUTH)

www.raptureready.com...

Lies will be revealed. Rebellion. Population decrease.

Personally, I am not expecting anything super natural.

What I do expect is that the most powerful nation the world has ever seen will be taking a vacation. I don't think it's the end of us, let alone the world but economic "collapse" and social strife seem to be all but a certainty at this point.

I hope that we will follow the examples set by citizens around the world and clean house as a result of massive failures of our governments, from state to federal.

I have no speculation on just how bad it might get or just how long it may take for our nation to rise again.

reply to post by NorEaster


"Just so that we're clear on this, there are no intelligent 2 dimensional creatures who perceive anything at all. That analogy exists to help people imagine what a 2 dimensional being would perceive if there were such a being - which there isn't."

Crystal clear..! I used an anlogy because it's much easier to understand the concept this way.

"There are more secrets, but they'll be uncovered when we finally adjust our perspective. Our brains are more than capable of learning all that we need to learn. Humans are pretty amazing already."

Speaking of perspective, I think maybe it is all about understanding that we are all connected. And when I say all, I do mean all, everyone and everything, as we all children of the stars, no matter where we come from. The key could be love (I am a helpless dreamer - what can I do?), as simple as that.
But I am very curious... What do YOU think???