UN Soon to Abolish Organized Religion

Originally posted by awareness10
Those who have created the prophecies for illusional eons have also been inserting mind control techniques to have everyone believe its real. Remember dictators from the past whether in the open or behind the curtain, have known this all along.

Again, I have to agree. This reminds me of the scene in the Wizard of Oz where the curtain is pulled away and everyone is watching. Those that are piecing back together the fundamental structure of the League of Nations have been watching long enough to know how to run the religion machine on their own.

Originally posted by schuyler
Practically speaking, how could the UN do such a thing? First, the UN has no power. Secondly, what would be the mechanism to do such a thing? Do you think the Secretary General just makes a speech and says, You billion Muslims and you billion Catholics are no longer allowed to have your religion!"?

The whole idea is nonsensical.

Just. Wow.
The UN has no power?
Wow
Just for posterity's sake, it can be done by revoking the tax-free status of religious organizations, as per an easily created/defended UN edict on equality of religion (or some such garbage) among member nations. See? Easy.
And yes, since members cede their national sovereignty to a degree to the UN, the UN could say either conform or get out. They DO have that power.
Just wow.
DD

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They have more power than the average bear thats for damn sure..
Rense & Maxwell - Most Americans Brainless And Obedient - most of the planet now i'd say.

Originally posted by Kutas
One can only dream that religion would be banned. Imagine how much better the world would be, people couldn't use it as an guise to commit horrific crimes.

Sadly history is rife with examples of what happens when atheism is allowed to stretch out it's tentacles unchecked. Atheist's are responsible for more blood shed and violence then all the religions of the earth.

The easiest way peace could be achieved in the west is to simply ban atheism.

Religion can't be banned with any effect. Not to mention, there are certain segments of religious folk that might become all the stronger with a ban.

The question really is can religion be harnessed? I think the answer is yes.

If religion is likely here to stay, and further, there are forces in play that desire a NWO, then it would be far more likely to see a "global religion" emerge, not the absence of one.

Regarding the UN, they should probably be looked at like the former League of Nations. They're a precursor to something that will follow, that will have more power.

But, they're at least an indication of what is desired. Does the UN actually promote any religion? If so, which one(s)?

The answer is yes, they do in fact promote a kind of religion, in spite of pronouncements that seem to suggest otherwise.

Perhaps the religion they have planned for us to all believe in, should worry us more than "no" religion.

JR

reply to post by JR MacBeth

Perhaps the religion they have planned for us to all believe in, should worry us more than "no" religion.

Not a religion per say but a "controlled spirituality" that allows for any belief system and any number of deities, but restrictions on advocating any belief system over another. Also the total restriction of implementing any old religious protocols from old religious books such as the Bible and other holy books. A forced interfaith.

Spirituality is the only way to go. Organized religion, whether it be Christian, Jew,Islam is a lie.... You must seek spiritual truth for yourself.

Its called the The Vatican. Even like the first few verses pretty much tell you... arrayed in purple and scarlet,decked with gold and pearls... Rev.17:9...And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. The Vatican sits upon the Seven Hills of Rome.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (((the one in there now has a short time))) When the Vatican became its "Own Country" is when the kings were started to be counted.


And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. (((when the churched murdered people for reading the BIBLE!! and not converting to be a catholic. Even the amount of days adds up.

The bible itself will give the interpitation for all the symbolism.

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You're right on track.

It is interesting to note though, that the Vatican represents all of Christendom. Nearly all the main core doctrines adopted by Christendom were carried over from the Council of Nicaea - many of which are steeped in paganism. In effect, all are just as blood guilty as she is and nearly all of them are aligned politically in some fashion.

The UN is not stupid.

They will not abolish any religions, they will discredit them. The groundwork has already begun to soften the blow somewhat.

The religion or religions in question will be proven to be false, most of us already realise the bible has been perverted to suit the leaders purpose. It should not be impossible to show what changes the council made,

They may even use the ET question to do this.

Banning religion is never successful and the prophecy will come true because they have always intended them to.

Sex abuse in catholicism, advocating murder, paedophilia, under age marriage, subjugation of women in most of them, the groundwork to discredit them have been around for ages.

Jesus knew they would distort his teaching. Did he ever say we should stop seeking the truth?

It will be easy. The truth will set you free!

Originally posted by Threegirls
It will be easy. The truth will set you free!

Unfortunately, before its all through "freedom" will be a relative term. One example is establishment of governmental law that removes a citizen's ability to make a conscientious objection to military service based on their religious beliefs. This can occur overnight in the US after the declaration of martial law. Following this, tax exemptions for not-for-profit religious organizations will be a thing of the past as that business model is already unsustainable in the US.

When a citizen no longer has the ability to interpret their own religion, but must be forced to accept governmental policies that are contrary to their beliefs, who then will they be worshiping?

Babylon is the city where the Lord was crucified. In fact, Babylon is called a whore, but New Jerusalem a bride. It has seven hills. These are just some things that point to Jerusalem. If you read what the bible says of Jerusalem, you will likely understand Jerrusalem is Babylon.

Originally posted by 547000
Babylon is the city where the Lord was crucified. In fact, Babylon is called a whore, but New Jerusalem a bride. It has seven hills. These are just some things that point to Jerusalem. If you read what the bible says of Jerusalem, you will likely understand Jerrusalem is Babylon.

If you haven't noticed the graphic on my avatar yet, check out the last domino. That would be correct too. God exacted judgement on Jerusalem in 70 AD when the Roman army completely annihilated that city. The Romans made sure to burn all their records so that the prophecy of their Messiah King could never be realized as the lineage is broken. The only thing they might produce is the anti-Christ, which is simply the symbol of a false religion (Zionism). Zionism is an anti-Christ.

She will be destroyed in your lifetime, not by God, but by the beast she has slept with.

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Freedom from false religion has the potential to unite us as people, that is one reason that a corrupt gov may seek more control. Why should we follow the terms they set out in Revelation? It doesn't have to happen just because it is written. Who says the end would happen as rev says? Where is the proof that Jesus did? The bible so distorted Jesus's teachings that the bible is not authoritative, I would rather look at the books that were not included.

We should use our freedom and unity to rule ourselves in fairness and equality. Sounds like something Jesus would back to me.

If people are too indoctrinated to do what Jesus would want and people were forced into service, they could put a gun in your hand but cannot force you to pull the trigger.

reply to post by Blue_Jay33

...A forced interfaith.

I think this is closer to the initial stages of the future our masters have planned for us, not necessarily the final goal.

Actually, I've thought a lot about this, and have looked back in history, enough to look forward and make some predictions. Maybe some will agree.

First, the past. Many old religious barriers have fallen, very recently, relatively speaking. Within Christianity, all three main segments have undergone severe "change", and all in the same over all direction.

The Catholic Church had it's Vatican II, modernizing, turning away from the old ways, adopting much of what Protestantism did before they got around to it. Many Catholics don't like to look at it quite this way, but few should argue about the fact that Vatican II was more real change than the church had gone through in the past thousand years.

Within Protestantism, something slightly more "diabolical" took place, since a 1984ish NewSpeak methodology was used so effectively, mainly within the English-speaking world, that many Christians within this segment can't even accept their historical label.

It began as "interdenominationalism", and quickly progressed to "non-denominationalism", and worked so effectively that there are people today who honestly imagine that they are "just" Christian. Well, even if our particular congregations have limited histories, certainly theology has a history, and there are different "flavors", how ever you slice them.

And the Eastern Church. The Orthodox are sometimes the "forgotten" branch, and yet, they are substantial. The thing is, they went through tremendous change through the Soviet regime, which installed KGB throughout the Russian Orthodox Church, which spread behind the old Iron Curtain, all the way down to Greece. Small wonder why Protestant Christians felt so attracted to this "half-way" home to Rome tradition, over the past few decades.

In Islam, interesting developments continue, with the Saudi Royal Family in control of their holy sites during most of the past century, and the Saudis completely in the pocket of Western elites, central to a new order in the Middle East, that shockingly ended up including a Jewish nation, Israel. Islam is being "molded", because it is the religion planned to help "deliver" the new world religion that our masters have spent so much time creating.

Now, the present. No big coincidence that Muslim populations are exploding across formerly Christian Europe. Simple demographics are going to deliver much of the globe to Islam, and Western leaders are all playing their part to ensure that the coming generations will either be Muslim, or at least immersed in a mostly Muslim world. They are being effectively deployed, and very few seem to see the future that is implied.

From what I can see, it will be this global "westernized" Muslim, which will soon be in the majority, that will be the focus of various efforts to mold them further, into the kinds of people our masters want.

The Future? Perhaps 50 years from now, the world will "groan, and find itself..." Muslim. But at this point, "Muslim" will not mean quite what it does today. This new "gentler" Muslim will then be ready for the next phase.

This "new and improved Muslim" will receive the prepared New Religion willingly, not forced, as will most of the remnants of the other religions, probably in connection with elaborate government psy-ops, that could even involve things like "aliens".

In the meantime, over the next so many decades, things will likely be chaotic. Probably major war. China will come to play more of a role that pushes East into West, fitting perfectly with the planned merger of all in between.

Looking further, perhaps cose to a century from now, the world will find itself religiously in two main camps. In the West, which would include the Middle East, the present Muslim world, we would have the "Godly", the majority being members of the new World Religion. In the Far East, you would have the "ungodly", setting the stage for a "final" war. When it's over, the following decades would involve absorbing the remnant Chinese into the World Religion, perhaps arranging a somewhat Eastern-style variant to help the transition.

In the end, all non-elite will either be members of the New Religion, or else underground believers of various kinds, perhaps a few Jews and Christians, maybe old Muslims. But they would be just a tiny handful.

At this point, the elite could have their Utopia, our global Plantation, and if the plan works, the slaves would have little hope of ever gaining their freedom again, since the New Religion is primarily enslavement of the mind.

JR

Originally posted by JR MacBeth
At this point, the elite could have their Utopia, our global Plantation, and if the plan works, the slaves would have little hope of ever gaining their freedom again, since the New Religion is primarily enslavement of the mind.

Isn't that what the Old Religions were?

The elite have had their Utopia for a long, long time.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

reply to post by daskakik


Yes, I agree, it's true that the old religions were big on enslaving the mind, but it worked so well!

Why not refine it? Why not get it to the point where almost NO ONE will be able to escape?

This is at least "a" problem with most religion today. There are too many loop-holes, illogical gaps, ridiculous "leaps" that must be made, and the more intelligent seem to get away.

Not that this is a huge problem for the elite. They probably "expect" their more intelligent slaves to figure out that they have been had, at some point, but if we look at the world as it is, very few are in this category.

We might imagine a black slave on an old antebellum plantation, down south in old America. Master finally agreed with his wife that the slaves should be Christianized, but he only agreed because of that one delightful passage about slaves submitting to their masters. But "Charlie", the smart slave who seemed to always figure out how to fix the many things that got broken, he shot Massa a look one day, while that passage was being read, and Massa was positive that Charlie wasn't buying it! Well, it was OK, there was always the whip, and Charlie was smart enough to tow the line, but Massa knew, Charlie's mind, "wasn't right"!

Such will it always be. BUT, this hasn't stopped our masters from working on a powerful religion that might even give Charlie a run for his IQ!

This new religion is already here, but flying under the radar, in incubation, being prepared for the day when all humanity puts the carefully crafted cage on their heads. Amazingly, most will put it on willingly, but then, the timing will be such that we could hardly blame them. The lock will then turn, and the key will be tossed. They may never get it off their heads again!

The good news is that Massa won't have to worry anymore. His slaves will serve, they will be content to serve, and Massa won't have to worry about looking over his shoulder -- FINALLY! The slaves, and their children, and grandchildren, ad infinitum, will serve, in perpetuity, and will only think within the carefully prepared paradigm that literally has no "outs"!

JR

People interested in this topic should be reading Revelation chapter 18

Who do you think "Babylon The Great" represents?

Originally posted by JR MacBeth
Yes, I agree, it's true that the old religions were big on enslaving the mind, but it worked so well!

Hence why Babylon the Great (false religion, anti-christ, what ever you interpret it to be) is prophesied to receive her judgement from the very element she has fornicated with. Whether you call that divine justice or Karma, you're on the right track. What goes around comes around - the inescapable cardinal rule.

In the words of Trent Reznor, "bow down to the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve." Although I don't subscribe to his music or cult of choice, he's right on target. The gods that many religious institutions worship today: power, fear, war, money, influence, sex - all have a dividend. No man-made organization today can continue to take without leaving a void that finally sucks them in. The fallacy of sin and death is the eventuality, the enemy of all of them.