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Originally posted by RicoMarston
reply to post by DrChuck
"and then there macro-evolution, where monkeys are men and vice versa"
...what? macroevolution includes changes that occur over such a vast period of time that, by the time the changes are complete, the resulting organism is so different from its predecessors that it is considered a new species. Monkeys are not men and men are not monkeys, and there aren't any serious scientists or researchers who would make that claim. The monkeys around today are in no way the creatures we evolved from. We have our own evolutionary path, we used to be humans, now we are different looking humans with bigger brains. It's really a simple concept, just on a grand scale. I don't see why people are so quick to dismiss macroevolution with "I ain't no goldurn monkey!" Is that what you're saying?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by DrChuck
The environment and the 'evolving' species are not separate. It is not the one who is best that survives, like a competition, the species who survives is a winner. Apple trees apple, the apple doesn't have to evolve to suit the tree.
Originally posted by Ubeen
Does Science/Evolution prove Intelligent Design/Religion Wrong?
This whole argument is basically like picking on the retard guy at school.
Do you know what a spider-goat is?
How about a GMO crop is it intelligent design?
So from the scientific side there can be no debate. Intelligent design is now a fact of science.
Can science prove that outside (intelligent design) influence did not happen on earth?
If evolution proves intelligent design false then can intelligent design prove evolution false?
No, its like picking on the retarded guy at school because science will always be the most accepted correct view and religion will always be stuck in dogma.
I seek the truth and will use science to feed my body and religion to feed my soul and will not look for one to do the others job.
When I see dogma I will call it dogma no matter if it is science dogma (cold blooded dinosaurs or evolution) or religious dogma (pope is gods voice on earth).
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
you are making a religion out of your science if you believe in evolution. You ask what practical applications come from creationism, what practical applications come from evolution? How does evolving from a monkey supposed to make me gain some type of insight as to why I'm alive? It makes no sense. The argument of evolution is: look a bunch of fossils that somehow show animals evolve over time, a beak here, a claw here, a hand here, it makes absolutely no sense on a logical level: a man must come from a man and a woman, not a monkey, not a man and a monkey, not a woman and an alien, it must come from a man and a woman, meaning the "template" (DNA) of a man and woman must exist eternally, but of course we have already illustrated how you have a hard time with that word: eternity.
Gradual change we can believe in? As if it is hard to believe in millions of years of evolution, how about an eternity? Can you believe in that?
Originally posted by Crutchley29
It's funny you bring up logic...what kind of a man believes that 2000 years ago a carpenter...given supernatural powers was sent by a even more powerful supernatural being to die for the inhabitants of a planet.