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Lori Hacking

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posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 09:25 AM
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This kind of goes with my last post, but I just found this article:

abcnews.go.com...

"Hacking's Attorney to Challenge Confession
Attorney for Mark Hacking Says He Will Raise Issue of Mental Illness, Challenge Confession"

I guess we'll see how far that goes.




posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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Hi all. I'm new to the board and my question is regarding the surveillance videos from the convenience store. The first, of course, shows Mark and Lori and the second only shows Mark. I have read that the police and/or media think that the second video shows Mark shortly after he killed Lori. I noticed that he appears to be wearing the same t-shirt in both videos. Wouldn't you think the crime scene would have been a bit "messy" for lack of a better term. It doesn't seem possible that he would have been able to have killed her with a knife without getting blood spatters on his shirt. Especially since there was signicant blood found on the bed, bedpost, etc. My point being, if this (video) was indeed after he commited the crime, he would have had to change clothes, kill her, and change back into the same clothes again. This does not seem like the behavior of someone who just "snapped". So, either this happened after 1:30am (time of the video) or this was definitely premeditated. Any insight? Just something that struck me as odd.



posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by jhconn
I noticed that he appears to be wearing the same t-shirt in both videos.


I noticed the same thing and oddly, the pundits made a big deal out his having changed pants, but said nothing of his having not changed shirts.

There is the possiblity that he and Lori went to bed and that he maychoose to sleep in his scrub pants only or perhaps he sleeps in the nude. He might have then gotten up later, after Lori was asleep, murdered her and then put on his shirt and went to the store for some cigarettes.

This guy is one sick puppy and its hard to believe that no one in the community or in his family noticed that anything was wrong until it came to this.

Earlier, I posted a link to a report that he had his mission cut short because he seduced one of his converts, he smokes cigarettes, but no one, not even his wife knew this, despite the fact that to a non-smoker, few things are more identifiable or more foul smelling that cigarette smoke, which as anyone know clings to everything in its path--clothes, hair, breath, skin, you name it.

There's a video of this guy sitting at the dinner table looking as meek as Stuart Smalley and then there's the videos of him with bandana-clad shorn head with a goatee looking like Jesse Ventura.

This case raises a lot of questions about how this lunatic could have gone unnoticed for so long.




[edit on 04/8/6 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 02:08 PM
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I agree, I am not a smoker in the least, but I can smell it a mile away. My husband could never smoke without me knowing, even if we worked seperate shifts.

The ironic thing here is that the convienience store clerk, his name is Eric Halloman. I dated Eric in 2001 for a short time. I was shocked when I saw the video, to say the least. I can vouch for his honesty though, Eric is a very credible source in my opinion. Anyway, Eric was a smoker, and even though he didn't smoke in his home, I could smell it on him, and on his breath. It's a sickening smell and one that is easy to detect.

I did notice the change in pants from scrubs to jeans. Perhaps they ought to locate the scrubs?



posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 02:55 PM
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hey y'all...new here so please be patient.

I am in North Carolina, no where near Utah but somehting about this whole story just grabbed me. I have been trying to keep up on all of the new info as much as possible. But, when I first heard about this, my gut told me that she was dead and it was her husband that killed her. I have been reading all of the postings and I am amazed at how easy it is for strangers to read someone and so hard for the family and friends.

I feel so bad for both families and I just hope that they find Lori soon. It would be horrible if the dump ends up being her final resting point.




posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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Okay, someone was talking earlier about that something will be odd about Lori's underwear. And another comment made about maybe Mark slept naked.

Alright, I have not seen the video, so I cannot comment on the change of clothes (or lack thereof). As for myself, I would think that sleeping in scrubs would be comfortable. That would be my personal choice.

As for the comment about Lori. When (and if) the body is found, let's see if her "undergarments" (other LDS people might know what I mean here) are there. This could be very important, because if they are gone (assuming that she wears them) then most likely she was either killed in the shower or during the course of what married people do. If they are not on here, then that would be a good indication that she was not killed in her sleep.

However, if they are found on here, I wouldn't be surprised if they were placed on her after the attack. Maybe they will find that her clothes and things are covered with blood, but that her undergarments are the cleanest part of her clothing (as they would have been placed on her afterwards).



posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 06:35 PM
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Well, while we are on the matter of Lori's underwear, whether they are on her body or not, if they are holy or not, we must recognize that her body was disposed of in a dumpster. Then the contents of that dumpster was emptied and compacted. That means the Lori's remains might be interspersed with an incredible amount of material in a area the size of a 3/4 in. sheet of plywood.

[edit on 04/8/10 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 07:54 PM
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humm...okay you've got a MAJOR point there. I hope for her sake that she hasn't been compressed. Man, some people are just sick. I couldn't even let give the okay to have my 17 year old dog put under.

How can anyone kill anyone else (unless they are going to kill you)? You have to be a sick person to do something like that...


Ken

posted on Aug, 6 2004 @ 11:18 PM
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I have to be honest here, I don't know why I see something odd about her underwear (or undergarments as one person said). I have no idea. The gist of the comment above seems to be that there is something with the Mormon religion that may have something to do with undergarments that I am not aware of. I wish I could explain what I see, but I cannot.



posted on Aug, 8 2004 @ 12:31 PM
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or, perhaps we'll discover that even though she was 'devout' to everybody else, maybe she wasn't so devout in her private life? That seems to be the case with many people. Just a thought.

Personally, I doubt she's in the landfill, and if she is, it's going to be very difficult to find her. The weather out here will have taken it's toll generously, not to mention, the bacteria out there. Perhaps this isn't the best analogy, but for those of you who have seen SIGNS, when 'they' are at the basement door making noise and distracting the family...he says, "wait, what are they doing? they're just making noise, they want our attention on the door." I think that is what is happening here. Apparently, Mark himself said he dumped the body in a dumpster. Okay, which dumpster? Different neighborhoods have different pickups. I think he's trying to lead them on a wild goose chase for his own personal amusement.

They should take another look at that park and canyon.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 06:51 AM
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I agree with Amber...why would he tell them exactly where to find the body. First , he wants everyone to believe that he is mentally disturbed. I have to admit, anyone who pretends to be somebody that they aren't is disturbed. BUT...he was well aware of what he was doing when he killed Lori. He just got caught.

I doubt that they will ever find Lori's body. He probably cut her up and disposed of her in several dumpsters, if he put her into a dumpster at all.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 08:51 AM
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I give them props for trying, but something just tells me she isn't there. Throwing her in the trash is too easy, not enough drama for him.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 10:30 AM
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in my dorm hall we have a motto "Drama Free Zone", it does't look like we'll be inviting Mark anytime soon.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 02:12 PM
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my guess is that laurie was in the trunk when he stopped for smokes.He needed a smoke while he thought about where he would put her body. I agree, you dont dump a body in a dumpster, you see it too often in the movies where the garbage man sees it....
Where do the killers in the movies who get away with crimes dump bodies?



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 04:42 PM
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It was just announced on the Fox Newschannel that Mark Hacking has been officially charged with first degree murder and that he had killed her with a 22 Caliber Rifle. I don't think he is the kind of guy to stab or hack her up. He looks like a pu55sy boy if you ask me.

For those that had the prems about her underwear maybe it's because he was the type to wear them.

[edit on 9-8-2004 by evecasino]



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 06:01 PM
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I must admit I am a tad shocked at the .22 gun. But then again I was questioning on why the hell nobody would've heard her scream? I'd think if it was done with a knife, she'd make a racket. But, it'd be hard to do that when you've been shot in the head. I was watching a forensic program the other day, and it mentioned that once there is a confession, it is difficult for the defendant to win the case. I'd say, even though it wasn't to the police, it was a confession.

And I like that "drama free zone". They're going to have to keep Mark away from those prisoners when he goes in. My brother is a corrections officer and he told me that even a rapist will kill a child molester. This dude killed his wife who was pregnant, even though it was unconfirmed by a doc, and that takes a lot. They're going to have fun with him. He makes me ill.



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 11:37 PM
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When his wife returned home, she confronted Mark with the news she had discovered that day. She was totally "devasated" - yet had been suspecting some things for quite awhile.

Perhaps she made the one comment that made him go over the edge. " I cannot allow our child to be raised by the liar that you ARE, Mark."!!

He slept on the couch, all the while enraged that he had finally been found out by the one person who had meant the very most to him.

In his mind - Mark had no choice ? He could not handle the potential loss OR the disgrace that all of this could bring. So many supporting relatives, friends, etc. would look upon him as the true "failure" that he really was. This would be too much for his alter ego to handle.

The rifle and knife were both used in this horrific murder. Perhaps a neighbor, or passer-by may have heard something.

I don;t see too long of a court battle. Mark will eventually be "forgiven" by both families. He COULD spend the rest of his life in prison, perhaps writing a book with the profits going to a "specific" Organiztion.

Lori's body ? "Parts" of it will be found - with or with-out his help.

I cannot see much more beyond this.

May God forgive this sick individual. May a Mother and her child be at peace. WILL anyone ever know the TRUE facts ?

WILL Mark's "story" ever be totally...believed ? Let's see how his Lawyer(s) handle it. We already know that he...can't (?)



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 02:45 AM
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I've been following this thread with much interest. It's nice to find like-minded individuals in regards to this topic.

Like alot of you, I knew from the onset that Mark Hacking had killed his own wife. Only I see things in a different way. When she was first missing, a video was shown where Mark and Lori Hacking were sitting at a dinner table with other people. I only caught a glimpse of the newscast so I'm not certain if the dinner was with family or friends. In the video clip Mark had his head turned looking behind where he was sitting, as did Lori. The thing that struck me like a demolition ball was the expression on Mark's face when he turned his head back towards the table. This is where I read things differently than most people. I immediately got the feeling of deceit surrounding the man. I even mentioned it to my husband. I knew at that very moment that the man killed his own wife. When the news of his confession came out I wasn't surprised.

I also see this about him...he's NOT crazy. Things got out of control for him and he didn't see any way out. He thought killing his wife would clear the way for him so he could start over again. The burden of his devious ways finally got to him. Yes, he may have snapped, but he's definitely not crazy. He knew exactly what he was doing.



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 07:26 AM
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I was a bit surprised that Mark has admitted to shooting Lori. Is he afraid that they ARE going to find her body and then he will be caught lying AGAIN?!?!? The only reason that I can see him coming clean about the gun is that he is scared. Maybe he knows that they aren't buying the "crazy" thing.

I don't see Lori's family forgiving Mark, at all. When they do finally find Lori's body and it is cut up into several pieces...that will be it. They will not feel any thing for Mark except extreme hurt for what he did to their daughter.



posted on Aug, 10 2004 @ 10:15 AM
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The gun admission is surprising, but police are keeping a lot of things to themselves...understandably so. There's more to this than we know, but I think he's starting to sweat because he knows his goose is cooked. Perhaps he's worried they'll find her because maybe more secrets will come out.

Their family 'unity' has got to be put on. It's too fake. But props to them.



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