i say we split california North and South.


jerry brown can govern the south, and the north can take meg.


we'll see which side prospers (lmao)

I can't believe he actually won - well actually in California I can but still?

Anyway, I agree with his assessment that the country is divided and its getting worse. Perhaps a Civil War is exactly what we need?

Divide the country into a Nanny State area and "Liberal Left" leaning zones on one side and into the Conservative zones on the other - see which policy seems to be more effective.

No need really - we already know the answers; look at the fiscal health of the traditional red states along with their crime, graduation and other statistics for the truth.

Even worse at local city levels; see Chicago, New York City and Detroit for examples of left run cities and their relative success...using urban planning (communism) and social engineering (communism). High on taxes low on liberties...

"Civil War" got my attention, because the alleged time traveler John Titor said a US civil war would begin in the mid 2000s and surge along up until a world war III. I think this "war" can be -not- necessarily literal, but rather brewing, fomenting, in hearts and minds and in politics, where it is at risk of becoming a physical conflict.

lets see in my state we were told a 10% cut to education then told oh no it will only be a 6.6% cut now it's at a 10.6% cut and teachers are getting laid off from every school, coaches are getting laid off of course etc.

Meanwhile the city has splurged on spending bigger school buses that are filled at 20% their capacity a new multi million dollar garage to house the bigger buses etc.

Along with trying to pass an opt out to raise the counties property taxes which will fail when voted on.

The state paid millions of dollars for a research facility that houses maybe 10 employee's and then paid more money to add classes to the university to train people how to work there. They re-search dark matter whoopty doo.

Then they hand out raises and bonuses to the folks higher up the food chain all while saying no one in the state gets a raise. They then call the raise a retention bonus and millions of dollars "bonuses" are handed out to the top.

Meanwhile were told no raises for 5 years total and the sad part is (starting wage) if you work nights on the floor of walmart you make more than working were I work at and its way less stressful.

Good luck getting assistance you pretty much can have no job and be a family of 4 or more before even being considered.

Average wage for the state employee is 1000 dollars more than poverty level so no state employee can get assistance, whom works full time.

This is just at the state level not even federal.

It's unbelievable how many people are talking about a civil war just in my state alone and I never in a million years would have believed this many people would be ticked off at both the state and federal government.

civil war people the side who owns guns would win that would be us right wingers.

i always thought left the liberals have one side and let the republicans have the other side sit back and watch and see what side lasts longer,which side prospers, and which side keeps printing and borrowing money oh and with out most of all the rich folks i wonder how they are going to pay for all the entitlement programs etc.

like it or not the left needs the right they always have they always will.


if you stop and think about it californias problems are there are not enough right wingers that live there