French ban on Islamic face veil comes into force

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posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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God I hope you're right

I'll celebrate if you are and if muslims start voluntarily departing the West





posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
They (muslims) KILLED people because someone burned a koran.

You folks don't think they'll get all bent out of shape over this? I'm just glad I don't live in Paris.


"They"? Who exactly are "They"?

Is that "They" as in extremists - - - - just as "They" in extremists who killed abortion doctors?



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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This in combination with air-strikes on African countries suggests that President Sarkozy of France is trying to curry favor with the French electorate.

From the March 2011 French local elections:
"Sarkozy Party losing in Local election: 55% French voters disenchanted with Sarkozy and abstain"
"French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s party was trailing in local elections on Sunday, trailing the opposition Socialists by 8 points and finishing barely ahead of the surging far-right National Front."
dawnwires.com...

As with several recent world leaders including Bush, Putin and Brown Sarkozy is reputed to enjoy his alcohol as this G8 Youtube shows.
www.youtube.com...


The actions of Sarkosy against Islam and Africa may represent the behavior of a man driven by fear. Alcohol dependency is a fear-based disease characterised by extreme ideas and thinking..
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posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Oh come on. You know who 'they' are, surely ?

You're a Mod. Doesn't that mean you're supposed to keep abreast of world events ?

They -- muslims -- killed people reportedly, for buring a copy of a book. A book produced by printers. A book written by men, just as the Bible was -- and which has no proven association with any true God

They ... muslims --- who kill women for going to work

They -- muslims -- who throw battery acid on women's faces

They -- muslims -- who demand a child rape victim produce four male witnesses to the rape or be HERSELF charged and whipped

Now, you want to ask who 'they' are again ?

Or are you going to stop the farcical questions ?



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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I doubt it will be voluntary, but the Front Nationale wants to do it by force.
Most of the french population are feeling so suppressed by now they are ready to fight.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Don't think for one second that you "know" me if anyone doesn't like living in England they can go as far as I'm concerned, I will say for added emphasis for those who haven't read my previous post re religion, I have no love whatsoever for Islam and will go so far as to state it is my least favorite religion out of the big 4 those being Xtianity, Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism the lesser tribal religions are held in equal scorn by me but I understand why they are adhered to.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Most of them are people in the US who have issues with anything religious and want to change it......

IE. It cant be Christmas , it has to be Happy Holidays.........


I was going to stay out of this, but ain't that the TRUTH, I was wonder where these same poster are when the Christians are attacked on the forum,

I will repeat myself, I can't understand the liberals, who in the past fought for the rights of women, seem to have it all backwards when it comes to Islamic womens rights, I don't get it.

If a women is forced to wear a veil isn't that a suppression of her rights, you can't have it both ways.

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posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by coquine
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I doubt it will be voluntary, but the Front Nationale wants to do it by force.
Most of the french population are feeling so suppressed by now they are ready to fight.



Well done !


Well done !

It's a cause to which I'll donate real money !

Then I want to see those who took the dollar and infested Western nations with these people held to account

and in my view, it should be regarded as a hanging offence

About time the French stood up for their culture against invaders !

Well damn well done and hurrah !



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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You're confusing me


Did I say I ' knew ' you ?

Or are you misinterpreting something I said ?



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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When in Rome as they say.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Right !

And we're SAYING it



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dock9
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Oh come on. You know who 'they' are, surely ?

You're a Mod. Doesn't that mean you're supposed to keep abreast of world events ?



I'm a Mod?

"They" - - Extremists. Exactly.

"They" - - do not represent every Muslim - - - just as "They" The Westboro Church or those who kill abortion doctors - - - do not represent every Christian.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dock9
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You're confusing me


Did I say I ' knew ' you ?

Or are you misinterpreting something I said ?


Your post I was referring to implied that you knew what I was "actually" thinking, that is a way of saying you know me or how else could you attribute meaning to my innermost thoughts.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Look --- I don't know you or care to know your thoughts

If that's the impression you got that's your business

but please don't pull me into it



I don't come here to post your thoughts and have no inclination to decipher anyone else's opinions

I come here to post my own opinions and that keeps me busy enough



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by beezzer
They (muslims) KILLED people because someone burned a koran.

You folks don't think they'll get all bent out of shape over this? I'm just glad I don't live in Paris.


"They"? Who exactly are "They"?

Is that "They" as in extremists - - - - just as "They" in extremists who killed abortion doctors?



A beautiful example of the ideology that you espouse. What would be your example of freedom?


I refer, from time to ime to a signature that another member had.
"It only counts when you are defending freedom of someone you disagree with."

(sorry if I butchered the quote)



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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But I will never consider the 'right' to wear the burqua as some sort of righteous crusade for individual clothing liberties. It's like fighting for the freedom to be a slave.


Absolutely.



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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It blows my mind that a new law was created for as few as 367 and as many as 2000 people.


In France, where there is an inflamed debate on the matter right now, the first investigation carried out by the police last year found that there were 367 women in France who wore burka or Niqab – 0.015% of the population. This was so low that the secret service was told to count again, and came up with a figure of 2,000


www.guardian.co.uk...



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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So does this apply to the muslims who are intolerant of French society? or what?



posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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I can totally see a veiless Muslim calendar on a French newstand.
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posted on Apr, 11 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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Ok. You're not a mod. That's good, because you don't seem to have the grasp I'd expect of a mod

As to your claim only extremists do these things -- I disagree

I think you need to learn a lot more about muslims. And maybe you need to live alongside them

because it is not extremists who foully abuse their women. It's rank and file muslims. And if you knew anything about middle eastern muslims or other muslims from 3rd world nightmares, you would not dare post here or anywhere else that 'only extremists do these things' --- because you'd be getting it chapter and verse from all sides

Now, if you have the wherewithall to find your way to this forum and manage to get your posts online, then you're fully equipped to find the hundreds of online and other information sources which will enlighten you as to which muslims disgustingly murder and disfigure muslim women

and they are NOT described as 'extremist muslims' -- no, they're described as 'muslims'

In the UK, there have been hundreds of cases where supposedly 'civilized muslims' (having lived in the UK for 20 or more years) who've murdered their daughters, wives and other female family members because those women wanted to be more Western . Those women wanted to assimilate with the host population. Those women were BORN in the UK, in many instances

Just as the muslim tv executive in the United States killed and BEHEADED his wife only a few years ago

Did those cases escape your attention ?

because if so --- I'll happily post links to sites where hundreds of photos of murdered muslim women who LIVED IN THE WEST were murdered by their muslim fathers, husbands and brothers

and the governments of those Western nations would shriek in fear if you accused those muslim murderers of being 'extremists' -- because that would mean Western governments accepted 'muslim extremists' into Western public service departments, for example -- and into Western local governments, etc.

So no. You are wrong to claim that 'only muslim extremists' disgustingly abuse muslim women. And I believe you know you were posting disinformation when you posted that

IT's not working any more. People have seen through the lies. Lies about 'only muslim extremists do this or do that'. No. They are standard, average muslims living in muslim nations AND in the West. And they are murdering muslim women IN the West because those women have chosen to live a Western lifestyle or simply dress more Western

The muslim culture is a dominant culture. And just as they dominate their women with violence, they attempt to dominate the Western host nations' populations. And we're not having it. We're under NO obligation to tolerate it and we won't

and getting rid of that dominant muslim symbol of 'conquest' -- the face veil -- is just the beginning

I HOPE muslims depart the West because they can't have their own way. But I doubt they'll leave. They have it way too good in the West. Nor will they accept prohibition of the face veil without an uproar as governments know. So here comes the war the zionists planned when they began shipping muslims wholesale to the West

and we will win. Because we're fighting for our culture and traditions and rights and they're worth fighting for


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edit on 11-4-2011 by Dock9 because: spelling corrections





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