6 Year Old Girl groped by New Orleans TSA.This Has To Stop...

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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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reply to post by Maslo
 


It's unreasonable search pure and simple. If planes are hijacked today they are simply shot out of the sky. Nobody is going to ever have the time to fly any aircraft into anything like they did on 9/11. Searching people everywhere for any reason is a neo con dream, and this is what this is all about. It's about incrementally stripping away individual liberties.

Ever watch the Norman Lear flick "Clod Turkey?" en.wikipedia.org... The John Birch'er society folks wanting to search everyone who comes into the town that is trying to win money from a tobacco company? Well, that mindset is behind why people are searched at the airport today. Why the Patriot Act was created and so forth. The same people who want the Federal Government out of their individual state affairs, but want everyone else to submit to their desire to interferer in the lives of everyone else who aren't them. People who aren't them of course are folks who are NOT apart of the military industrial war complex which includes, big oil and banking........ I guess that also includes, News Corp, Fox News personnel too.
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posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 10:23 PM
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I think they may have driven you crazy with fear! That you would think that child molestion is necessary to keep you safe is insane. There is only one type of threat that would use a child as a human bomb and that would be Muslims. If TSA wants to molest every Muslim child in the US but leave all the other children unmolested, you would make you feel safe?



posted on Apr, 16 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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In my opinion, the actual perverts are the people who perceive a pat down as anything sexual! Your mind has to be pretty f'd up if when you witness a pat down...the first thing you think is something sexual.


This again? I don't know, man.
I mean, are you implying that it's perfectly acceptable if it's "in context" and the perp doesn't enjoy it?
And if this is really about "context", then I see an awful slippery slope in the distance.....



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
That you would think that child molestion is necessary to keep you safe is insane.


This and..


Originally posted by sara123123
There is only one type of threat that would use a child as a human bomb and that would be Muslims.


and ...


Originally posted by sara123123
If TSA wants to molest every Muslim child in the US but leave all the other children unmolested, you would make you feel safe?


Is what we call denying ignorance? Child molestation? Only MUSLIMS would use children as human shields?

Let me tell you something... I did tour after tour after tour in South America, in former Yugoslavia, in Georgia, in Chechnya, in many many jungles before my 20 years was up, and let me tell you lady about exactly how many different religions and cultures USE CHILDREN as human shields.

To claim that this TSA agent was doing anything more than her job is a travesty. You may not LIKE what you see on there as an invasion of privacy, but your form of extremism is no better than radical form of Muslim extremism either.

I sincerely wish some posters on here had a little more world experience before making such extremist claims.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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The threat TSA got was that Mulsim terrorists were planning to strap bombs on their children to blow up planes because they were not checking kids at airports.

If you did not know the origin of this "kid danger" that has resulted in agents sexually molesting children, that does not make me ignorant. It makes you ignorant.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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It's unreasonable search pure and simple. If planes are hijacked today they are simply shot out of the sky. Nobody is going to ever have the time to fly any aircraft into anything like they did on 9/11.


Not that I disagree with the unreasonable search thing, but this is poor argument. There will still be hundreds of deaths when the plane is shot out of the sky.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
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The threat TSA got was that Mulsim terrorists were planning to strap bombs on their children to blow up planes because they were not checking kids at airports.

If you did not know the origin of this "kid danger" that has resulted in agents sexually molesting children, that does not make me ignorant. It makes you ignorant.


Again, you're using sexual molestation as your argument, and there is no indication of ANY sexual molestation anywhere in the video. It's a woman doing her job, plain and simple. It seems again I need to reiterate that you may not LIKE what you are seeing, and yes it IS an invasion of privacy, but it is NOT sexual molestation, and you, not I, are the one who needs to become more informed on segregating terms.

Now let's talk about your alleged insider information on precisely what "threat the TSA got" shall we? You are no more privy to precisely what threats they receive than is your neighbor, with that in mind, you are no more qualified to determine what a "Muslim" looks like than a Christian or a Jew. If you saw a Palestinian Christian child going through the same ordeal, do you think you would know the difference?

Let us talk about ignorance again some time, at that time lets us also talk about denying it.......



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Strangers running their mitts all over the bodies of children, including their crotches is called sexual molestation. In child pervert circles it is called grooming. That is when adults in power over the child condition them to supress their natural inclinations of self protection where they reject the invasion of their space - their bodies - by perverts.

Sorry you are ignorant of child sexual molestion. Just because you have not studied child sexual molestion, the subject matter is not changed.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by sara123123

Strangers running their mitts all over the bodies of children, including their crotches is called sexual molestation.


Really? And what is it called during a medical exam?



Originally posted by sara123123
In child pervert circles it is called grooming.


Seems you're pretty well read on what it is called in child pervert circles. However, this is neither, it is pre-flight.


Originally posted by sara123123
That is when adults in power over the child condition them to supress their natural inclinations of self protection where they reject the invasion of their space - their bodies - by perverts.


Children do not HAVE a natural inclination for self-protection from adults in power...if they did, it would not be an issue, nor would we have to instruct them not to talk to strangers.



Originally posted by sara123123
Sorry you are ignorant of child sexual molestion. Just because you have not studied child sexual molestion, the subject matter is not changed.


Let's see who is uninformed and who isn't:


Child sexual abuse is a form of child abuse in which an adult or older adolescent uses a child for sexual stimulation. Forms of child sexual abuse include asking or pressuring a child to engage in sexual activities (regardless of the outcome), indecent exposure of the genitals to a child, displaying pornography to a child, actual sexual contact against a child, physical contact with the child's genitals (except in certain non-sexual contexts such as a medical exam), viewing of the child's genitalia without physical contact (except in nonsexual contexts such as a medical exam), or using a child to produce child pornography.


Link for the above is here.

Also let's take a look at the Legal definition of Child Molestation while we're at it:


Regardless of the terminology, it is illegal for an adult to touch any portion of a child's body with a "lewd and lascivious" intent.


Link for the Above found here.

The important part and where you really need to get informed is the part where it states LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS, those are important words in the legal arena with respect to child molestation.

All emphasis is mine, and I would like you to respond as to where that appears on the video tape please?

Also, I need to add this since you seem to use the word with abandon:


Originally posted by sara123123
of their space - their bodies - by perverts.



per·vert    /v. pərˈvɜrt; n. ˈpɜrvərt/ Show Spelled[v. per-vurt; n. pur-vert] Show IPA –verb (used with object) 1. to affect with perversion. 2. to lead astray morally. 3. to turn away from the right course. 4. to lead into mental error or false judgment. 5. to turn to an improper use; misapply. 6. to misconstrue or misinterpret, especially deliberately; distort: to pervert someone's statement. 7. to bring to a less excellent state; vitiate; debase. 8. Pathology . to change to what is unnatural or abnormal. 9. to convert or persuade to a religious belief regarded as false or wrong.


Definition of PERVERT can be found here.
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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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It's legalized molesting. Period. How does one then explain to a six year old child to not let strangers touch them, after this? Oh, it's ok for TSA to touch you, but not other strange adults??? Please explain.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by aero56
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It's legalized molesting. Period. How does one then explain to a six year old child to not let strangers touch them, after this? Oh, it's ok for TSA to touch you, but not other strange adults??? Please explain.


The same way you explain it after, for example, medical examination.

It is not sexual.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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Maybe nothing "sexual" has entered your mind, friend, but it has others. Guaranteed. Did you enjoy your job, I mean seriously, did you like doing that part of your job? I am a retired nurse, and I will tell you that while I had very close contact with bodies of all types, sorts and age groups, I didn't enjoy having to touch them, especially children;but I was a medical professional. These TSA people are not. Children understand a nurse or a doctor having to touch them, for the most part. But in a public place with strangers feeling everyone up, no way.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Good question, friend. Like the man in the video said, we are f------ cowards! We stand by and allow this to happen to children. It's bad enough adults have to put up with it, but these are children. And then of course we have to explain to them that it's ok for these monsters to touch them, but not other adults. And then, get this, when the kids play with each other, guess what they will do if they pretend they are to go on an airplane!!!???



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Doesn't matter how it is "perceived". It's wrong. Period. An adult, except for medical professionals and parents, don't touch the body of a six year old child.
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posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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And you know this how? Were you hiding out inside their heads? You don't know. Period.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Absolutely we do, especially a six year old child. What is wrong with you? There are consequences as a result of these TSA people touching children. Parents have to explain to the kids why it's happening, why this particular "adult" can touch them, but not other adults. Some of these agents do indeed enjoy touching children. Guaranteed.

Do you realize that some of these children will repeat this on another child? Kids mimic what they see. So, the first time a little girl or little boy decides to play TSA agent and feels up the other, someone is going to be in big trouble.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by alphabetaone

Originally posted by sara123123
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The threat TSA got was that Mulsim terrorists were planning to strap bombs on their children to blow up planes because they were not checking kids at airports.

If you did not know the origin of this "kid danger" that has resulted in agents sexually molesting children, that does not make me ignorant. It makes you ignorant.


Again, you're using sexual molestation as your argument, and there is no indication of ANY sexual molestation anywhere in the video. It's a woman doing her job, plain and simple. It seems again I need to reiterate that you may not LIKE what you are seeing, and yes it IS an invasion of privacy, but it is NOT sexual molestation, and you, not I, are the one who needs to become more informed on segregating terms.

Now let's talk about your alleged insider information on precisely what "threat the TSA got" shall we? You are no more privy to precisely what threats they receive than is your neighbor, with that in mind, you are no more qualified to determine what a "Muslim" looks like than a Christian or a Jew. If you saw a Palestinian Christian child going through the same ordeal, do you think you would know the difference?

Let us talk about ignorance again some time, at that time lets us also talk about denying it.......


And you know that how? It may not look sexual, but you don't know what the agent or the child is thinking or experiencing.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Read this: www.techdirt.com...

TSA was told to tell children that Groping them is a game. Really?? Just wait until the neighborhood pervert gets ahold of that one.



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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Please read this, and think. TSA was told to tell children that groping them is a game.

www.techdirt.com...



posted on Apr, 17 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by aero56

I am a retired nurse, and I will tell you that while I had very close contact with bodies of all types, sorts and age groups, I didn't enjoy having to touch them, especially children;but I was a medical professional. These TSA people are not. Children understand a nurse or a doctor having to touch them, for the most part. But in a public place with strangers feeling everyone up, no way.


By applying your exact same logic to what you have accused these TSA agents of doing.... how do WE know you didn't enjoy it? Are we in YOUR head? No....no, we are not.

Are we supposed to take you on faith then? That you didn't enjoy it?





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