Ok, I have seen tons and tons of pictures of UFOs that seem to be various shapes and sizes. I've read eye-witness discriptions of kecksberg and roswell and so on. I understand people talking about thing in the skys that we can't identify.

What I don't get is the connection to non-terestrial sources for these. Is there some kind of evidence, even if questionable that these object are ET in origin?

I see no evidence for any conclusion as to where these flying objects are from.

Aliens? Interdimensional? Time traveling? Angel Cars? Secret genius dolphin crafts from super intelligent deep sea dolphin people? Magic?

The only connection between these craft and aliens I can find are stories about seeing aliens climb out of them, yet i've never even seen pictures of a UFO even on the ground! (UFNO- Unidentified Not Flying Object :lol

As far as I can tell the first connection was tales of "moonmen" and "Martians" that predate any eye-witness accounts and just got tossed in with UFOs.

What makes all these pictures be associated with aliens?

Originally posted by Quest
What makes all these pictures be associated with aliens?

I think that its just coming out of our minds. People just wanna believe that they are not alone in the universe. Once they get the idea (from scifi movies, etc.) that there is a possibility of aliens entering the earth from their own spaceships, they associate every single unidentified flying object with alien spacecrafts. As people get more educated about space and how it is infinitely vast, they don't wanna feel like the only intelligent life around. So they desperately wanna see some kind of alien being at least in their lifetime. Therefore, they associate UFOs with aliens! May be by doing so, they get relief of some kind (from fear of being alone may be).

I strongly believe in the existence of ETs, but i wouldn't believe any other person that they saw alien spacecrafts or actual aliens unless they present some physical evidence that can be verified which hasn't been done till now! Even if i saw a weird looking craft flying, i would question a lot before believing that it belongs to ETs.

They are there, but we don't know for sure if they are here!

[edit on 7/26/2004 by jp1111]

So then then the only connection between UFOs and Aliens are witness accounts?

The MiB thing is only note-worthy that some organization cares about the craft. Whos to say the MiB aren't air force personel looking into downed US secret craft, or even foreign craft.

Logic would sugest all these craft are terrestrial in origin because it is known the USAF has secret craft. Thats at least something to go off of, the fact that the US has had previous craft. Many UFOs from the 1950s-present have eventually been identified as USAF craft or missiles... and if there is no evidence linking aliens and UFOs logic would sugest the most likely explination is new, still secret craft.

Even further, older pictures often show craft that have sharper angles and are more "pie tin" looking and the newer stuff looks more streamlined, the same as known aircraft over the last 60 years.

Thanks for the reply Heelstone...anyone else have anything linking UFOs to ETs?

I also want to add. Is there ANY UFO (not IFO) pictures of humans getting out of an undebunked UFO? I haven't seen something like that either.

So then then the only connection between UFOs and Aliens are witness accounts?

Nope, not true...

There are PLENTY of government documents (some authentic, some still being authenticated), that indicate the craft are of extraterrestrial origin. Especially documents surrounding the names Trudeau, Truman, Forrestal, etc.

Furthermore, there are a number of sources, and highly unrelated ones, pointing even to the point of origin for at least one such alien type....the 4th planet of the binary star system of Zeti-Reticuli. First noted in some military docs in the 40's/50's, then reported by the Hill's famous abduction case (Betty and Barney), and even later with the dubius, yet undismissable Bob Lazar, as well as other, less famous abductees (some of whom pointed out the star system on a star map, being unable to name it, helping to bolster that they weren't just repeating pop culture...)

Thank you Gazrok...not exactly solid evidence in my mind, but i wasn't looking for hard evidence, just an understanding of how they got connected in teh first place.

How are UFOs/ETs connected? For one, the U.S. Air Force started its 22 year public investigation into UFOs because they continually claimed that if UFOs were real, that they weren't manufactured and piloted by the United States government. One possibility was and still is extraterrestrial origin.