How would you invade the USA?

again to the USA uber alles types...:
did anyone notice the thread on the main page where they just rocket the guy's house
in the Ivory Coast
his semi auto kalishnicoff did squiggly....


*sigh*
bringing guns to a drone fight....
bringing guns to a food fight
bringing guns to a plague
bringing guns to fight a fire
or fix a water shortage....

In Canada we have a saying;
"Don't shoot AT the goalie"

"you all have guns you are perfectly safe!
who said that?
your new bailout government!

Originally posted by bobs_uruncle
reply to post by AnteBellum

 

Let's see.... Presuming I have control of the US government and I could operate under a multi generational plan (I wouldn't have to see the completion in my lifetime) I would;

Enact a 100 year plan to dumb down the population through indoctrination rather than critical thinking and
Deplete the population's immune system to make them subject to designer disease for culling purposes and
Start a large number of ongoing wars overseas to insure problems with return transportation logistics and
Bring your "sleeper" troops in silently as immigrants over a period of 50 years to fracture resolve and consensus of the existing population and
Systematically devalue the dollar to cause demoralization and substance abuse.

Once the troops are safely out of the way I would;

Collapse the food market and
Collapse the dollar and
Enact martial law and
Enlist the aid of the UN to bring foreign troops into the country and
Allow the government of my choice to run the US colony.

It would be bloody, the FEMA camps would be full with new ones under construction every day. The whole of the US would be converted into centralized labour camps. US population through martial law and active culling would be reduced by 60 to 100 million in order to bring in "new management" from offshore.

Of course this kind of plan could only be enacted by a psychopath, I only look at strategy and the above is a pretty brief outline, but it seems the most logical type of plan and it is the one that has been successful so far.

Cheers - Dave

edit on 4/10.2011 by bobs_uruncle because: a line

Great post Dave!

The "invasion", and or destruction of the USA, seems to be progressing right before our eyes.

People may argue about whether or not this is the case, and about "who" might be responsible, but I think that the minute one takes a step back, and looks at the bigger picture, it's at least obvious to me that the US has seen better days, and is headed down, down, down.

Gaining the historical perspective is key, as you point out, this is a multi-generational affair.

Of course, we can spend lots of time going further and further back, wondering when exactly things went wrong, and why, and who was behind it, but at some point, we might actually get all the way back to the beginning.

1776. A new nation, and after the Revolutionary War, seemingly "independent" from England, and yet perhaps not entirely.

Some may have heard the term "The Great Masonic Experiment", and indeed, the USA can be seen as such a thing. A nice stroll through the capital should lead to a few healthy suspicions, at a minimum.

Like the World Trade Center, was the USA also created with the seeds of destruction built right in? Were the many "invasions" of recent decades, in many ways mirroring those that hit ancient Rome, were they also perhaps built right in to the plan?

Quite likely there is a truer version of history that we are not privy to, one that would shock the average person. Benjamin Disraeli's most famous quote would be certainly apropos.

Probably even more shocking would be the disturbing possibility that there could be levels of sophisticated planning that go back hundreds of years, that already encompassed a "global" master-plan, long before the more recent age of globalism.

So, the big question for Americans (and the world) is: What's really going on?

And then, more to the point, as the ancients would have said, Quo Vadis...Where are we headed?

JR

What would be the point of an invasion? Maybe to start ww3 and depopulate the earth by 80%?

The aliens have "invaded" this planet thousands of years ago and our constitution became a corporate charter in 1873 run by the IMF and its subsidiary the IRS. The IRS collects the dough and sends it to britain and the rothschild dynasty.

Start it off using terrorist style attacks, cripple their main cities, their airports and transit systems, cut off major highways and interstates, sieze oil and other resources, use missiles to attack US reserve bases, taking out a large number of home land defense troops. Use a large number of bombers to decimate key power plants and grid stations, gas stations, and key bridges, and key cities, then follow that up by landing paratroopers into the middle part of the nation as you land troops on the coast and behind coastal areas. Then use fighter jets and fighter/bombers to take out key AF bases. Send a force of 50,000 to the Space Command in northern greenland, thus gaining control of military space, while also taking control of NASA, and other organizations, such as the kind that have satellites and what not, taking control of all communications, military and civilian. Censor all american government broadcasts.

Then take over american intelligence agencies, to find and extract key government leaders, such as the president, to use for....some really good leverage in the war.

But we must not forget foreign bases, i would send mercenary forces led by my commanders to take control of major bases abroad, such as air bases, and naval bases, thus crippling their naval capabilities, and air capabilities.

This was off the dome, theres alot more to it, ive thought it out exstensively before lol....

reply to post by superluminal11


Funny you should mention Chinese electronic infiltration.


I just downloaded a program called Peerblocker 1.1 and look who was watching me when I flipped it on:




These are IPs that are trying to directly connect to my computer.


The First Military Medical University is based on China.

Also Taiwan and the Ukraine were trying to connect to me. And some Russian school now... Now I'm seeing some "unknown emule servers."


Crazy stuff.

reply to post by AnteBellum


i would surround them from bith sides basicaly get my troops to juststart attacking with no particular stradgy and justkeep moving in

Originally posted by AnteBellum
I started a thread a few minutes ago and the direction seemed to be going in this way.
ATS Link

If you were in charge of a comparable force to that of the USA, how would you organize a military land based invasion ultimately?

I personally would first soften up the east and west coasts along with large cities/military bases with artillery fire, navel and sub attacks, bombing, long range missiles, nukes, etc. After sufficient time, this can be greatly dependent on too many factors to come to any conclusive forecast, would run ground based troops north from Mexico and/or south from Canada. The areas in New Mexico and North Central America are not as populated to face immediate resistance. Plan would be to meet somewhere in the middle of the country then head east and/or west to the coasts. Mopping up as they went along.
I have no military experience, does anybody have a better plan of attack?

I would establish a central private bank. It seems like it is the best strategy now a days. Why fight when you can use the backdoor?

reply to post by AnteBellum


Just ask the RAND corporation or CSIS, PNAC, and other think tanks. They have files upon files, dosiers upon dosiers outlining and describing any invastion, attack, counter-attack scenario that is humanly possible. The Pentagon drills for it all year, and every year.

Look up:

"Vigilant Guardian"
"Amalgamation Virgo"
"Operation Northern Vigilance"

Read
"Rogue Warrior" by Richard Marcinko

Then, after you've researched the above, can you properly and intelligently answer your question. And REALLY brainstorm possibilites of hostile military actions against ANY country, much less CONUS (bonus homework for those who don't already know).

Also, just because a foreign invasion force speaks another language and lives in an entirely different culture, doesn't mean that they're all muppets. They most likely have sophisticated intelligence gathering systems that already know the above, and more (and even are/have counter-/retalliatory- plans in the works). This possibility opens up a myriad of ever increasing Pandoras' boxes of complex situations with untold outcomes that can affect the continuity of the United States.

After intelligence (I would assume - having no military experience/training/education myself), comes planning and logistics. The U.S. military doesn't throw it's eggs in one basket, when they invade other countries. They still have ROUTINE spy satellite paths, and surveillance flights over other countries and their military forces on a daily basis. Whenever another nations defence forces refuel all the vehicles for even their own military exercises, the U.S. military knows.

A "comparable force" would have to be one with a military and intelligence infrastructure similar to that of the U.S. And they would have to wait until they have either a coalition or at least a 10 to 1 ratio of force against the U.S. That's usually how the U.S. fights its wars. And with good reason. You don't want to tie up all your resources in one spot.

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

For more information, check out:

www.globalsecurity.org...
www.fromthewilderness.com...
www.historycommons.org...

reply to post by sumgai


Also, it's worth mentioning that any military attack against the U.S. will have to begin with an Economic attack. And we might already be witnessing one as we speak in regards to actions by the BRICK(sp?) coalition and the performance of the US$ in recent years.

There's also the possiblity of the U.S. being eaten up from within by its own reckless spending and actions abroad.

It's already happening all along our borders. There's a steady flow of illegal aliens and terrorist wannabes into our country every single day. You don't need a military force to destroy this country. Apathy, ignorance, and enemy access to our sacred freedom will be all the weapons needed to bring it all down. It's just a matter of time. We're not fixing the problems and the cancer is spreading.

reply to post by sumgai


In case you have not noticed its already 11:59pm on saturday and both the USA and EU are on the verge of total collapse. When that happens we will get a digital currency and borders will be absolutely meaningless. I initially thought the nwo would take their time and create a north american union, south american union, african union, etc....but it seems they are putting their plans to overdrive!

The price of oil is going up, we have one artificial disaster after another, upheavel in the middle east, ufo sightings everywhere, talk of 12-21-2012 being the last day in mayan prophecies, continous "tension" between nato and russsia/china(despite the fact they are now capitalists).

Do you see a pattern developing? I do and it looks depressing; hint someone is pulling the strings and has always been doing so. Who has the most money to spend and influence "our" politicians and who in turn is influencing them.................

There is no need to invade the USA because it has been invaded a long, long, long time ago just like many other countries on this planet. I am no lunatic, I have done lots of research on such topics and would prefer not to have ww3 to finish us off. Do the math!!!

Originally posted by connorromanow
i would surround them from bith sides basicaly get my troops to juststart attacking with no particular stradgy and justkeep moving in

So the Soviet strategy at Stalingrad huh?

Man, you better have an assload of soldiers.

Considering the businesses ... well the majority are owned by foreign powers and the land as well...

There really isn't a US to invade.. now if you rephrase the question about how to attack North America.. that's an entirely new question due to the the foreign powers who would be involved to protect their interests.

Invading the US

If you have suprise, try to get the East and West coast. These areas have the most population and are semi-mountainous which makes them hard to take after the defenders are ready.

Stage two, or stage one if the US sees it coming, is to invade through the Gulf of Mexico and drive north to Canada, cutting the US in two. Along the Gulf of Mexico there are alot of beaches so it would be hard to cover every landing site, and there are not many mountains so defensive positions would be vulnerable to tanks.

If you could time your landing assault to the aftermath of a hurricane you could land anywhere east of the Rio Grande.

Unless the US keeps air superiority, the US wont have have any subsequent grain harvests or oil or natural gas and will be fighting on captured supplies, herd animals, and mobile solar arrays, given the current technology.

Originally posted by fah0436
Why invade? You want to take over, not invade. Invasion is stupid and the hard way to achieve such goals.

And we've already largely BEEN taken over. The banks rule. And things like the FED, IMF and China are in control.

First, TPTB will destroy the dollar - already in progress.
Then when food runs out and riots start, move in the riot police and put the people in FEMA camps, starting with the ringleaders.

Note that i have heard lots about foreign troops being trained for such domestic work. Makes sense. You don't want to have to depend on U.S. Forces to do that job. And more non-US forces can and will be brought over from overseas.

The only real issue will be people with weapons and guns. I'm sure TPTB know who those people are. And they will get special attention, but not by direct use of forces. Advanced non-lethal weaponry will be used to break their ability to resist, then they will be quietly arrested.

Their is not much of a constitution left. So there will be little to stop TPTB from doing pretty much whatever THEY want. If will take a lot of people to stand up to put and end to this possibility, but it can be done. There and many non-violent means of protest availiable to ALL of us!

All good points, so

if they invade it wont be to take us over, it will be to exterminate us.

reply to post by sine.nomine


Many of the posters on this site are addicted to disaster porn. It doesn't surprise me at all, though it does make me sick to my stomach.

Originally posted by AnotherYOU
since this is something i do plan to do, i wont disclose how it will be executed

i will say though that my troops will land on one of these two dates: during superbowl or on new year's eve


still undecided, but anyone planning an invasion on the us could take a hint from charts detailing the yearly spikes in alcohol sales in the usa..

on a side note, strategically one cannot touch north american soil without controlling certain places first...

 

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There was a board game titled "Invasion USA" circa 1976. It assumed that the whole world would be against us before the invasion, but the game used 1970's level technology.

If the South Americans take sides with the invaders that could be enough to get started.

Otherwise our navy would have to be bushwacked like no navy has ever been blindsided in the history of the world. This could be possible using alot of hightech and space based first strike weapons.

We could be one invention away from losing the tchnological edge.

Originally posted by yourmaker
I know this may sound hilarious to a few, but let me take you through something you may or may have not come to realize with this type of thread, and perhaps even this type of site.

it is a collection of different perspectives and experiences which inevitably leads to releasing vital information.
things that were not known prior and could not without this type of organization of data and ultimately consciousness. let's say someone malevolent out there is looking for this particular information, isn't it in our interest to protect it rather then throw it all out there into one perfect databank for them to draw from when needed?

an invasion of the united states is as horrific a nightmare as they come and I would rather us not to reveal what we know about it's weaknesses. America is only as strong as us.

I understand your concern. I think the attackers would have better sources of information than us. I have had a few good ideas reading this blog that would have come to me much more slowly without it.
For instance, if any power tries to invade the US, it will be to kill all of us-- and not for control of the resources.

I wouldn't even try, as it would be sheer suicude! The same goes for Canada! There are too many "growers" in both countries who are more than willing to die for what they grow. Let's face it, with all the care and nurturing along of their "babies" and the love they have for them, I don't suppose I could fault them. As long as there are little gardens scattered throughout both our countries, I think I can safely say that citizens on both sides of the border will always be safe from invasion.

you realize that if the us got invaded that every american with a firearm would take up arms against our invaders, atleast i know i would

an yea we have troops overseas but pretty much our entire military force is still based throughout the country plus you have all the police and again every civilian who has firearms would fight the invaders

invading the us would be a long drawn out war that i don't think a country could win unless nuclear weapons were involved