It's time for mankind to break his Earthly bonds. Commercialise space and let NASA die!

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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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reply to post by SLAYER69
 


Yes, yes, yes!

Thanks for another great thread, Slay...

I agree. 100%. We need to do this. I believe strongly that humans are hard-wired to want to explore, to discover, to learn what's on the other side of the hill... and... what's on those bodies up there in space. Again, we need to do this. It's in us.

That's why Star Trek, Star Wars and all the others are such a powerful influence.

I agree too that NASA has turned into something vastly different from when it started. No longer gung-ho, they seem now just a bloated conglomeration of fuddy duddies who can't think of anything better to do than crash a tin can on the moon looking for water when they already know there's water there.

Yes, let NASA die an ignominious death. If they can't figure out how to do a nice big rocket to get the moon, well, that's all too telling.

Corporations? Sure, why not, man! Maybe brand new corporations. That's our way... and, since it's not the government... we know it would get done. And the more the merrier. We could set the rules so that they'd need to release their findings... although they should want to anyway... live streaming video from the moon.

Mining and building to start, of course, and hopefully much more as things got going. I'd read that quote you cited from that thread about the rail guns... I thought it a great idea as well. Piece o' cake. And indeed the moon's a rad place to launch from to check out the critters on Mars. All that low gravity bit, you know? Tons of resources.

Personally I want them to find out what that green thing that was hanging on to that boulder was... but I digress.

Also... those were some great vids, Slay! Ha! They were truly a treat.

I too am thrilled with the reality... and, indeed, we are all 'star-stuff'!

Peace,
Pixel

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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Great point.

I'd go colonize Mars in a heartbeat



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus
Nice thread slayer


if you haven't already, check out the movie Moon.

It's a pretty good flick,


Thanks for the headsup.

Looking into it now.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Exactly.

It's not impossible it's really a shift in perceptions.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by LadySkadi
 


Great point.

I'd go colonize Mars in a heartbeat



Oh, man, me too!

Pick me! Pick me!

It'd be so nice... sittin' out back playin' with the critters, maybe check out a few ruins... you know.


We can do this... I say "Go for it!"

Wonder if it's too late to sign up...



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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In space we just wouldnt enjoy the same standard of living as here on Earth. First of all we would be completely out of our element as we are inherently creatures of Earth. We have adapted to Earth's gravity, atmosphere, and ecosystems. In space our muscles and bones would atrophy, we would not enjoy the range of foods we eat here on Earth.

If we grew our food in space we would need to grow foods that are nitrogen donors in order for the soil to remain fertile. So we would be forced to eat alot of legumes, this neglect of other food groups could cause dietary deficiencies. Our protein intake could be greatly affected. We would be forced to farm animals that used up the least amount of space this would mean chickens. Because we cant have cows grazing around in Zero Gs. Even if we had gravity the amount of space; cows and other livestock would take up would make them inefficient.

The radiation levels in space will also give us problems. Even low levels of radiation combined with weakened bones from low gravity could cause easily broken and fractured bones. Solar flares can come out of no where and if we were say on a moon base and a solar flare hit us it could kill everyone onboard with no warning. Diseases could also be spread much easier on a space station with people living so close to each other and sharing the same amount of limited breathable air. We also don't know what will happen to fetuses developing in a zero G environment. Lack of sunlight would reduce our Vitamin D counts weakening bones further. We would have to supplement vitamin D or install UV lights on the stations. Powering the stations would also be a problem. If we used nuclear reactors this again would increase the amount of radiation the people onboard would receive and along with solar radiation and cosmic might be enough to push the human body to the breaking point. The point im trying to drive home here is even though we all see space travel on TV with star trek and star wars in reality it would not even remotely resemble this propaganda. Space is a dangerous and inhospitable place for human life and in my honest opinion we should do our best to live in balance on this planet because it's the only one we will get.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Panel supports commercial space

Experts asked to review the US human spaceflight programme have given strong support to the use of commercial services to launch astronauts.

The Augustine panel published its final report on Thursday and said America could find cheaper, faster successors to the shuttle in the private sector.

The US space agency is developing two new rockets and a crew capsule.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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I believe if space was commercialised we would see a great number of advancments in space exploration, it would be a great idea.
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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Here you go: Mars or Bust

P.s. Or maybe an asteroid or two?


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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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Sorry guys...I think this little fellow is going to colonize Mars before us
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TO INFINITY...AND BEYOND!



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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It's just a matter of time and we are capable of doing it now. We might as well start investing in it now so we can reap the economic benefits soon.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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If we were going out into space for extended periods, especially permanently, there's at least a few things we'd have.

The first is artificial gravity equating 1G. Honestly I don't know how anybody would not expect that to be a given.

The next is some means of consistently meeting all of our nutritional requirements. Honestly, I'm thinking a massive space station would undoubtedly devote a large amount of space to replicated earth ecosystems to help with this as well as to serve as oxygen gardens.

Honestly I don't know enough science to come up with specific, well-developed counters to your negativity, but I know enough to be 100% that humans can make space livable. We are incredibly resourceful, after all.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Dream crusher! Well, you never know.


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Man's need to explore and (conquer?) will drive us and Science and tech. will get us there some day. Hopefully, sooner rather then later... Ideally in cooperation with, not at the expense of NASA.



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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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All are very good points.

Which given enough time, research and resources I believe could be overcome.
Those points may appear as insurmountable problems I see them as opportunities for more research and development. $$$$

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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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S&F and subscribe.

11 mostly practical ways to travel between planets

Still nothing on the artificial gravity part though, this is the final part, and it has to be done within 2 years. At this rate, it doesn't look good.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Has anyone got or can anyone find me a list (if such a thing even exists) of the priorities of space travel.

My assumption:

1) Locate an earth-like planet or habitable / terraformable planet

2) Develop a better form of fuel, for faster space travel

3) Send analyser probes, to detect atmospheric type, mineral content, detect weather patterns, continent structure data and then send data back for analysis.

4) If planet is suitable, set up a halfway point, for recon, docking, transportation, refuelling, analysis etc

5) Begin planetary transition.

Whilst this method may take hundreds of years, in the mean time we can be fixing our own planet, developing maps of harvestable asteroids and resources and training personnel and pilots, staff, construction crews etc.

Or maybe I read too much sci-fi

But does anyone have a list of how we plan on our next stages of space flight and development plans?



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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To all the people pointing out "look at Virgin Galactic", it's important to note that those are sub-orbital flights. The evolution of space exploration is going to rely on the private sector, most likely through these sub orbital flights until there is enough competition and it's cheap enough to expand into orbit and so on.

Letting Nasa die is an absurd thing to say, especially since most of NASA is dedicated towards the research aspect of space (and our planet). We can let commercialized space exploration push it forward, because the governments obviously don't care enough to put the money into exploration, but we're still going to need government agencies conducting the work corporations won't do for lack of profit.

Forming some sort of Cooperation between World governments at the space level is going to be critical in exploration past our own solar system. The sole interest of profit isn't something that should be out there exploring, it should be interest of exploration and knowledge.



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Hey no way... you silly Hu-mons need to stay PUT... I mean we already got our spot on Mars picked out... no need to mess up anymore planets with you silly Hu-mons...

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posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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In his interview, Branson discusses his hopes for the future. In one plan he hopes Virgin will establish a space hotel where people can use as a base and take tours on automated spacecraft to the Moon and back.


www.universetoday.com...



posted on Apr, 9 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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I've no doubt that mining will be the driving force behind commercial space exploration. leading on to everything else.

Quite possibly though that will be automated for the most part so that "they" don't have to worry about the problems involved in long term human existence out there.

One thing does bother me though. When the Moon starts being mined, what will these people have to say about it?

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