Originally posted by milkyway12
Your are yet still relying on books outside of the bible and i have no idea what you are trying to point out to me in these verses that you keeop quoting.
I told you the the requirements and gave you the background on the Bible , yet you still ignore it and continue with your BOOKS that are NOT inside the Bible have i have pointed out numberous times that the Holy Spirit inspired this book.
You continue to ignore the BIBLE , as for the Versus you point out in John , you are not God. John does not support you for you are ..... not God and not in this time. I dont understand why you would quote it unless your trying to point out that you are God or are you trying to refference to me pointing out scripture in the Word of God that says that you are wrong and think it is a personal attack and are saying that Jesus suffered as well? I dont understand it.
The book of Enoch has very little Value to me as it is outside the Word of God and should be taken as a Grain of Salt..... the dead sea scrolls and Enoch confirm some things in the Bible but it is not in the Bible.
Again i have given you a seminary basically on the creation of the Bible in the earlier post and yet you still ignore it and deny that the Holy Spirit has power to influence men as he says he has in the Holy Bible.
Again ... if you are Rejecting Jesus as your only salvation , you will have problems in the after life .... as the bible tells us many times over he is the way the truth and the life ... even your good deeds and revelations are filth to God.edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
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Your are yet still relying on books outside of the bible and i have no idea what you are trying to point out to me in these verses that you keeop quoting.
I told you the the requirements and gave you the background on the Bible , yet you still ignore it and continue with your BOOKS that are NOT inside the Bible have i have pointed out numberous times that the Holy Spirit inspired this book.
I told you the the requirements and gave you the background on the Bible
I told you the the requirements and gave you the background on the Bible , yet you still ignore it and continue with your BOOKS that are NOT inside the Bible have i have pointed out numberous times that the Holy Spirit inspired this book.
Im not trying to be Rude or anything , but you must understand the Bible is God's miracle for us when he left this world. If you dont believe in the bible , then you might as well not call yourself a Christian you see? As Christians are based off the Bible , what it tells us.
God even tells us to meditate in his word
11. “But when they lead you, and deliver you up,
take NO thought beforehand what ye shall speak,
neither do you PREMEDITATE:
but whatsoever shall be given to you in that hour,
that speak ye:
for it is NOT ye that speak,
but the Holy Ghost.
If you dont believe in the bible , then you might as well not call yourself a Christian you see?
As Christians are based off the Bible , what it tells us.
You continue to ignore the BIBLE ,
as for the Versus you point out in John , you are not God. John does not support you for you are ..... not God and not in this time.
I dont understand why you would quote it unless your trying to point out that you are God or are you trying to refference to me pointing out scripture in the Word of God that says that you are wrong and think it is a personal attack and are saying that Jesus suffered as well? I dont understand it.
The book of Enoch has very little Value to me as it is outside the Word of God and should be taken as a Grain of Salt..... the dead sea scrolls and Enoch confirm some things in the Bible but it is not in the Bible.
Again i have given you a seminary basically on the creation of the Bible in the earlier post and yet you still ignore it
and deny that the Holy Spirit has power to influence men as he says he has in the Holy Bible.
Round and round and round we go the more you ignore the verses i place to show you what the Word of God tells you.
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller
Its not that i cant answer the questions you post , its that i have already answered them.
Its just so aggervating how much you have been blinded with your near death experience. If you deny Jesus by not admiting he is the only way to heaven and the only possible way to remove your sins... you will simply burn for the rest of eternity.edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
1And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
2And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.
3And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems:
4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days.
7And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels:
8And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
10And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of the testimony, and they loved not their lives unto death.
12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child:
14And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
18And he stood upon the sand of the sea.
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller
Its not that i cant answer the questions you post , its that i have already answered them.
Its just so aggervating how much you have been blinded with your near death experience. If you deny Jesus by not admiting he is the only way to heaven and the only possible way to remove your sins... you will simply burn for the rest of eternity.edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by Olise
Again i used scripture to back up every single detail of my argument and its been ignored. He uses scripture from outside the Word of God and some scripture from the actual bible that has very little to do with his claim.
Again , if you refuse that Jesus is the only way to God the farther. Then your in trouble , its this simple. There is no other way for your sins to be forgiven.
Again i used scripture to back up every single detail of my argument and its been ignored.
He uses scripture from outside the Word of God and some scripture from the actual bible that has very little to do with his claim.
Again , if you refuse that Jesus is the only way to God the farther. Then your in trouble , its this simple. There is no other way for your sins to be forgiven.
45. I will that there be prepared Holy SOULS for Me.
46. Understand The Word of Wisdom!
47. As for Me, if you would understand What I was::
48. By The Word I mocked at all things
And was not mocked at all,
49. I Exulted: But do you Understand The Whole?
Originally posted by angelmass
Greetings Matrix Traveller!
Regarding the opening of the seven seals, The Book of Revelations has been one I’ve follow for a long time, trying to figure out its real meaning. I want to ask you to please show us the meaning behind the passages about the woman giving birth, the child and the dragon. In particular this ones:
1And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
2And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.
3And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems:
4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days.
7And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels:
8And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
10And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of the testimony, and they loved not their lives unto death.
12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child:
14And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
18And he stood upon the sand of the sea.
For what I have read so far from you and from what I have learned, I think I can understand most of the meaning behind those words, but still I think it would be good if you can show us the meaning behind those passages and what they are describing. Thanks in Advance traveller!
1. And a great sign appeared in heaven:
A woman clothed with the sun,
and the moon under her feet,
and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
2. But unto you that fear my name
Shall The SUN of Righteousness
Arise with healing in His Wings;
and Ye shall go forth,
and grow up as calves of the stall.
3. And Ye shall tread down the wicked;
for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
in the day that I shall do this,
saith The Lord of hosts.
A woman clothed with the sun,
2. And being with child,
she cried travailing in birth,
and was in pain to be delivered.
3. And there was seen another sign in heaven:
and behold a great red dragon,
having seven heads, and ten horns:
and on his head seven diadems:
having seven heads, and ten horns:
a. The uppermost or forward most part of the body of a vertebrate, containing the brain and the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and jaws.
b. The analogous part of an invertebrate organism.
11.
a. A person who leads, rules, or is in charge; a leader, chief, or director: the head of the corporation.
12. The foremost or leading position: marched at the head of the parade.
a. The difference in depth of a liquid at two given points.
a. A projection, weight, or fixture at the end of an elongated object: the head of a pin; a head of land overlooking the harbour.
b. The working end of a tool or implement: the head of a hammer.
d. The part of a stringed instrument where the strings are wound; a tuning head.
e. A tuning machine.
a. The rounded proximal end of a long bone: the head of the femur.
b. The end of a muscle that is attached to the less movable part of the skeleton.
20.
a. An attachment to or part of a machine that holds or contains the operative device.
c. The device in a magnetic disk or tape drive that enables it to read data from and write data to the disk or tape.
22. Botany A flower head.
23. The uppermost part; the top: Place the appropriate name at the head of each column.
24. The end considered the most important: sat at the head of the table.
25. Either end of an object, such as a drum, whose two ends are interchangeable.
28. A passage or gallery in a coal mine.
a. The top of a book or page.
b. A headline or heading.
31. Linguistics The word in a construction that has the same grammatical function as the construction as a whole and that determines relationships of concord to other parts of the construction or sentence in which the construction occurs.
2. Foremost in rank or importance: the head librarian.
3. Placed at the top or the front: the head name on the list.
1. To be in charge of; lead: The minister headed the committee.
3. To aim, point, or turn in a certain direction: headed the team of horses up the hill.
4. To remove the head or top of.
6. To provide with a head: head each column with a number; headed the flagpole with a golden ball.
v.intr.
1. To proceed or go in a certain direction: head for town.
3. To originate, as a stream or river; rise.
1. One of the hard, usually permanent structures projecting from the head of certain mammals, such as cattle, sheep, goats, or antelopes, consisting of a bony core covered with a sheath of keratinous material.
2. A hard protuberance, such as an antler or projection on the head of a giraffe or rhinoceros, that is similar to or suggestive of a horn.
3.
a. The hard smooth keratinous material forming the outer covering of the horns of cattle or related animals.
b. A natural or synthetic substance resembling this material.
4. A container, such as a powder horn, made from a horn.
5. Something having the shape of a horn, especially:
a. A horn of plenty; a cornucopia.
b. Either of the ends of a new moon.
c. The point of an anvil.
d. The pommel of a saddle.
e. An ear trumpet.
f. A device for projecting sound waves, as in a loudspeaker.
g. A hollow, metallic electromagnetic transmission antenna with a circular or rectangular cross section.
6. Music
a. A wind instrument made of an animal horn.
b. A brass wind instrument, such as a trombone or tuba.
c. A French horn.
d. A wind instrument, such as a trumpet or saxophone, used in a jazz band.
8. Slang A telephone.
on the horns of a dilemma
Faced with two equally undesirable alternatives.
A container or device made from this substance or an artificial substitute a shoe horn a drinking horn.
An object or part resembling a horn in shape, such as the points at either end of a crescent, the point of an anvil, the pommel of a saddle, or a cornucopia.
(Engineering / Aeronautics) Also called horn balance an extension of an aircraft control surface that projects in front of the hinge providing aerodynamic assistance in moving the control
15. (Engineering / Mechanical Engineering)
a. Also called acoustic horn exponential horn a hollow conical device coupled to the diaphragm of a gramophone to control the direction and quality of the sound
b. any such device used to spread or focus sound, such as the device attached to an electrical loudspeaker in a public address system
c. Also called horn antenna a microwave aerial, formed by flaring out the end of a waveguide.
4. And his tail drew the third part
of the stars of heaven,
and cast them to the earth:
and the dragon stood before the woman
who was ready to be delivered;
that, when she should be delivered,
he might devour her son.
5. And she brought forth a man child,
who was to rule all nations with an iron rod:
and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
51. His disciple said to Him,
“When will the repose of the dead come about,
and when will the New World come?”
He said to them,
“What you look forward to
has already come,
but you do NOT recognize it.”
113. His disciples said to Him,
“When will The Kingdom come?”
Jesus said, “It will not come by waiting for it.
It will not be a matter of saying
“Here it is” or “There it is”
Rather, The Kingdom of The Father is spread out upon the earth,
and men Do NOT See it.”
6. And the woman fled into the wilderness,
where she had a place prepared by God,
that there they should feed her
a thousand two hundred sixty days.
7. And there was a great battle in heaven,
Michael and his angels fought with the dragon,
and the dragon fought and his angels:
13. "No one hath ascended to heaven
but He who came down from heaven,
that is, “The SON of MAN” who is in heaven."
8. And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9. And that great dragon was cast out,
that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan,
who seduceth
the whole world;
and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels
were thrown down with him.
10. And I heard a loud voice in heaven,
saying: Now is come salvation, and strength,
and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ:
because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth,
who accused them before our God day and night.
11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
and by the word of the testimony,
and they loved not their lives unto death.
12. Therefore rejoice, O heavens,
and you that dwell therein.
Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil
is come down unto you, having great wrath,
knowing that he hath but a short time.
13. And when the dragon
saw that he was cast unto the earth,
he persecuted the woman,
who brought forth the man child:
14. And there were given to the woman
two wings of a great eagle,
that she might fly into the desert unto her place,
where she is nourished for a time and times,
and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15. And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman,
water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.
16. And the earth helped the woman,
and the earth opened her mouth,
and swallowed up the river,
which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17. And the dragon was angry against the woman:
and went to make war with the rest of her seed,
who keep the commandments of God,
and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
18. And he stood upon the sand of the sea.
Originally posted by angelmass
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller
Thank you Matrix for that enlightening revelation of what you have witness, Its always fascinating to see how the truth has been kept there even after so many manipulations and corruptions of the scriptures. At the end the true mind always win, this is a war the Flesh has no mean of winning lol.
Now, regarding this process that goes in the souls, let me try to get this more clear. When a soul is first created, this one is inside the first born soul, correct?
As far I understand, the soul goes from a 2D plane of existence to a 3D shape at some point, in this 3D shape, she soul is separated form the first born soul and floats around freely, going to this kind of "theatres" where the experiences are displayed.
When we learn from this experiences, the metamorphosis of the soul is invoked. In this stage the soul lose the 3D shape and returns to the original 2D shape, back in the First Born Soul. Is this more or less how the process goes?
Thanks again for your explanation of those passages from the book of revelations and im looking forward to your replies. Take care Traveller!
Thank you Matrix for that enlightening revelation of what you have witness, Its always fascinating to see how the truth has been kept there even after so many manipulations and corruptions of the scriptures. At the end the true mind always win, this is a war the Flesh has no mean of winning lol.
And the Earth shall be wholly rent in sunder,
And all that is upon the Earth Perish.
And there shall be a Judgement upon All.
87. Jesus said, "Wretched is the body
that is dependent upon a body,
and wretched is the soul
that is dependent on these two."
Now, regarding this process that goes in the souls, let me try to get this more clear. When a soul is first created, this one is inside the first born soul, correct?
As far I understand, the soul goes from a 2D plane of existence to a 3D shape at some point, in this 3D shape, she soul is separated form the first born soul and floats around freely, going to this kind of "theatres" where the experiences are displayed.
When we learn from this experiences, the metamorphosis of the soul is invoked. In this stage the soul lose the 3D shape and returns to the original 2D shape, back in the First Born Soul. Is this more or less how the process goes?
45. I will that there be prepared Holy SOULS for Me.
Originally posted by xizd1
Been kinda quiet so it may be a good time for some silly questions.
Do animals fit into this anywhere? Do they have a soul? I have had and do have animals that I care about. I am concerned about their fate.
I have been reading this book and found this image and text interesting. Would like to hear your comments.
That's all for now. As always thank you for your efforts to educate fools like me.
