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reply posted on 19-4-2011 @ 10:28 PM by Astyanax

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Oh, so this is the only globalist or politician that have mentioned world government or the New World Order?
If you do a little bit of research you'll find that there's hundreds of similar quotes sprinkled all through the decades up to this very day.

Yes, and there’s still no world government. All these predictions are equally vacuous.

World government takes time to implement. soon it will be impossible even for "skeptics" like yourself to vehemently deny.

You tell me when that day comes, ok?

edit on 19/4/11 by Astyanax because: it’s nice to quote people’s sillinesses back at them.

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:23 PM by TheLaughingGod

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Go ahead and ignore these too:

www.svpvril.com...

But your insistence on denying the almost undeniable is bordering on delusion.

You've really got nothing to stand on, except saying: "You're wrong!" ad infinitum.

Get's pretty tiresome after a while..

reply posted on 20-4-2011 @ 02:50 PM by Astyanax

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Nut site. Didn’t even have to read it. You can always tell by the layout.

You think I’m joking, don’t you? Well, I’m not. If you work in the media business, as I used to, you can always tell the real amateurs. Meaning: the nuts.

But I read it anyway. And guess what?

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

Are you serious??? No, wait, man, that isn’t enough:

Only a dyed-in-the-wool paranoiac could possibly imagine that a bunch of nut quotes add up to a conspiracy. Of course, I know you’re not a dyed-in-the-wool paranoiac, you’re just showing me how crazy some people can be, right?

Right?

edit on 20/4/11 by Astyanax because: of not enough lulz.

reply posted on 21-4-2011 @ 11:16 AM by TheLaughingGod

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So you found, what, one quote that is suspect out of hundreds?

Maybe you should do a better job with your debunking, I'm only seeing "You're wrong", like usual.
Where did you prove that quote was a hoax by the way, did I miss something?
Provide some hard evidence instead of ridicule and condescension and I'll conceed that that particular quote is a hoax, I'm not seeing anything of substance at all in your reply.
Get back at me with some proof when you're ready to step out of the sandbox, ok?

Now, debunk these:

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

These three quotes are real, these quotes are EVIDENCE of a worldwide conspiracy.

What evidence do you have that points to the opposite? Pretty much nothing, you can't prove a negative and that's why KNOWING about the New World Order agenda is more rational than denying obvious evidence, all the while being obnoxious and rude at that.

I mean, how deluded do you actually have to be to deny the reality THESE PEOPLE THEMSELVES ARE PREACHING!?!? That's really mind boggling..

David Rockefeller: "We're gonna have a New World Order, a world government!"
Astyanax in his omniscient wisdom: "Uhm, no you're not."

This situation actually deserves a laughing smily, so here you go:

Me laughing at your delusional megalomania.

With your deluded confidence you should be able to actually PROVE that these quotes are hoaxes.

I'm waiting..

By the way, your "laughter", it's so *genuine*. It offends me SO much.. the thought of you laughing at me, it's so horrible. You're really showing what kind of character you are with your feigned laugh attack. Six of them? Really? It's quite obvious AND, ironically enough, really, really laughable to someone that has studied psychology for half his life.

Keep up the charade.. I hope you're getting paid, because if not, it wouldn't just be laughable, it would be downright sad and pathetic too.

See? I can be condescending too, are you ready to get out of the sandbox now or do you wanna continue hurling veiled insults at me?

Not getting my hopes up for anything of substance, most likely you'll attack everything BUT the content. Obfuscate, poison the well, act like a jerk... the usual M.O.

edit on 21-4-2011 by TheLaughingGod because: Ya

reply posted on 21-4-2011 @ 10:42 PM by Astyanax

reply to post by TheLaughingGod

These three quotes are real, these quotes are EVIDENCE of a worldwide conspiracy.

Two of the three are fabrications, the third is taken from the ravings of a well-known right-wing conspiracy nut.

The Bilderberg Group never releases records of its meetings, so the Kissinger quote is obviously a fabrication. It appears on a hundred NWO-world-government nut sites, but can you find the original citation? If it was a leaked document from a Bilderberg meeting, surely the leaker should be an anti-NWO hero, dead or alive; instead, the source is obscure; almost certain evidence that the quote is fake. Further evidence comes from the fact that Dr. Kissinger doesn’t talk or write like that. Don’t forget that he is, among many other things, a writer, whose literary style is well known. Here is a sample of it:

The argument that a deadline is necessary to oblige Afghan President, Hamid Karzai, to create a modern central government challenges experience. What weakens transparent central governance is not so much Mr. Karzai’s intentions, ambiguous as they may be, but the structure of his society, run for centuries on the basis of personal relationships. Demands by an ally publicly weighing imminent withdrawal to overthrow established patterns in a matter of months may prove beyond any leader’s capacities. Source

Does that sound like the semiliterate oaf who fabricated the piece of tripe you quoted?

By the way, the name of the place is Evian, not Evians. If you even got the source citation wrong, what price the quote itself?

The second quote is probably correct. There have been any number of right-wing nutcases in the United States Congress, and McDonald was certainly one of them. His political record shows it plainly.

The Rockefeller quote is another infamous fabrication. If you disagree, find and cite the original source.

Now here’s a genuine quotation from David Rockefeller:

Some... believe [the Rockefeller family} are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. Source

Damn’ right, and I couldn’t agree more. The world needs a unified administration and government. Right-wing extremists in America hate the idea because such a government would stop their country behaving like an international delinquent and bully, as is its wont. And of course the nutcase fringe on the American right thinks there is some secretive conspiracy to create a world government.

There is, of course, no such conspiracy. There is, however, a very open campaign for a world government, or at least a more unified world, and many important and powerful people are a part of it. Here is how Denis Healy, a founder of the Bilderberg Group, put it in an interview:

To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing. Source

And so it would be. Unfortunately, the power of the American political right, and the military-industrial complex that funds and promotes it – together with their conservative counterparts in other countries, such as, for example, China – will ensure that we never do get a single world community. That, chum, is the real conspiracy – and you are its willing dupe.

reply posted on 21-4-2011 @ 10:59 PM by Astyanax

About Bilderberg

This is off topic, but if anyone is interested in the reality of the Bilderberg group, they may find this investigative article worth reading.

Believers in world-government conspiracies will probably dismiss it as more media manipulation by the Evil NWO.

reply posted on 21-4-2011 @ 11:21 PM by JBA2848

Saudi Arabia is in the process of shifting there oil to Russia and China. The US will be shorted oil from Saudi Arabia in the future. Saudi Arabia is protected by the US on a yearly cost of 40 billion dollars a year. How long do you think the US will spend that to protect oil that goes to Russia and China? And Saudi Arabia is in a nuclear deal with China.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.washingtonpost.com...

Top White House aide delivers Obama letter to Saudi king
A top White House aide delivered a personal letter from President Obama to Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah on Tuesday, as the administration moved to calm tensions between the two countries over how to respond to upheaval in the Arab world and deal with their mutual adversary in Iran.

The hastily arranged visit to the kingdom by national security adviser Thomas E. Donilon came less than a week after Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates made the same trip. While administration officials confirmed the delivery of Obama’s missive, they declined to specify its contents.

Neither government denies that there has been a divergence of views between the entrenched, conservative monarchy and the administration, which is struggling to balance its substantial interests and alliances in the region with its desire to see democratic reforms.

So could this "hastily arranged visit" be a nuclear talk with Saudi Arabia. And Donilon is the main man when it comes to Top Secret Talks. Donilon is one of the men in charge of the NSA who is above all of the US government even the President.

Thomas Donilon National Security Adviser for Obama?
His brother Michael C. Donilon, a counselor to Vice President Joseph R. Biden?
His wife, Cathy Russell, is Jill Biden's chief of staff.
The Donilon family controls all info in the White House.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 06:22 AM by Lynda101

Regarding Pakistan, it amazes me the UK government has the sheer stupidity to give this country aid, except during national disasters. Millions of pounds have been pumped there and its still a disorganized and failing country, yet suddenly its in the top league for supplying armies and some of that army may be on its way to Saudi.

I find it strange with all its oil independant energy rich Saudi needs to worry about nuclear energy, common sense says keep enough of your own resources to see your people safe well into the future. Why would you risk your independance to go into a technology that will keep you needing help from other countries to maintain your nuclear stations and dispose of your nuclear waste? Unless of course they are doing exactly what they claim Iran has done, use nuclear power in order to get nuclear weapons.

I understand the Saudis making overtures and agreements to China. I believe despite the strutting of the usual fat cats around Europe and the USA we are actually seeing their old world order crumbling beneath their feet and unless Russia, China or India want their fat backsides over there and directing their countries and lives, there will be as much mischief played out on the world stage as they can venomously spew in their dying days. I can't see the USA recovering from the debt lashed to her heels and the same for much of Europe. Germany is the power house there and will probably be wanting a complete restructing of how the EU is run.

I'm fine with little England coming out of the world stage and lime light, I only ever felt the colonial mantle fitted the Royals, the aristocraticy and the sycophantics and fat cats who crawl around them, whilst they all take afternoon tea scratching each other's backs. We've always suffered under weak government and with our backs to the wall, from past history we will survive without the strangulating old world order, Gooodbyeeeeeee.....eeeeeeeee! We will come out refreshed, invigorated and our natural pool of ingenuity, from which the English people collectively have not been able to benefit from for years, will all come back.

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