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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by daskakik
Let me dictate to you my good man, that the only thing going on in this thread, that is naive, is your doubt.
I thank you .edit on 27-6-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
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Plus your claim as to the great flood has been completely refuted with numbers to boot and not by a scientist. I'm sure one would have done a nicer job than I.
And saying a global flood is impossible and a fairytale remains unrealistic propaganda.
The Bible has been around longer, then science or any scientist ( Dawkins ) and therfore trumps both by seniority and wisdom.
Not to mention, a perfect moral code to live by, that has stood the test of time.
Therefore, I declare that if scientists ever want to be taken seriously, about any claimed fallacies such as " the flood is a fairytale "? Then scientists, should be the ones to back up their claims, against the already established .and long held truth.
What has science proven about the Bible that just puts it so to shame ?
I do think you could very well call it BLIND CHANCE but then that would show that you don't fully understand how things happen in nature. The very choice of words implies that it is something difficult, if not impossible.
“it is something difficult, if not impossible”.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by edmc^2
You obviously can't read
No one is claiming life started based on blind chance. They claim it happened based on physics and natural laws...which makes sense given that everything we can explain is based on those things, and we have ZERO objective evidence for the existence of a creator.
In my opinion, you look beyond silly if you believe in a fairy tales in the 21st century. Either back up your claims with objective evidence, or accept that you're just speculating and filling gaps in knowledge with magic. Just like the guys who claimed plagues were a punishment by god centuries ago. I just think it's kinda sad people can be that incredibly ignorant and stupid in an age where information is freely available. Way to go against the "deny ignorance" mantra of the site
Also, you might wanna read up on probability and game theory...because you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. While you're at it, you also might wanna look up the definitions of "logic" and "common sense" as you don't seem to understand what those words meanedit on 29-6-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
You keep implying that I or the atheist community is struggling but, at least speaking for myself, there is no struggle.
I have never said that nature created everything. What I said is that nature, which is the same as XYZ's forces of nature, molded what was created.
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by edmc^2
I have already answered. I belive that it's something that isn't your god.
I'm not struggling because I am at peace with what I know and with what I don't.
"forces of nature, molded what was created"
Originally posted by edmc^2
Unfortunately you did not. You simply chose not to answer it but just went circles
So do you believe that there’s no Creator – No God? Is that what your faith say?
I believe what I believe. I don't go around saying its factual because I know that I can't prove it.