reply to post by daskakik
First off I'm sorry but I am not in the choir but Faith2011 is.
Might be but I’m not into number codes and such so I’m I can’t comment.
Here is a short creation story from Southern Nigeria.
In the beginning there were two gods, Obassi Osaw and Obassi Nsi. The two gods created everything together. Then Obassi Osaw decided to live in the
sky and Obassi Nsi decided to live on the earth. The god in the sky gives light and moisture, but also brings drought and storms. The god of the earth
nurtures, and takes the people back to him when they die. One day long ago Obassi Osaw made a man and a woman, and placed them upon the earth. They
knew nothing so Obassi Nsi taught them about planting and hunting to get food.
I thought you’re going to cite the Babylonian creation myth or the Chinese creation myth or the Greek mythology and other similar myths. I guess no,
but one thing about these myths that separates them from the Biblical Creation account is their origin. They can all be traced back to one point of
origin – Mesopotamia. In fact only the Bible sheds light on how and when did these myths came to be.
Another thing to remember also about myth is that they are exaggerations and distortion of factual events. But even though they are exaggerated and
distorted in one form or another there’s a kernel of truth in them. But taken as a whole – they are just that a myth. Unfortunately this is where
people gets confused and misled. Sadly some religious leaders are responsible of propagating these lies.
But if you have time check out this book: Myths of Creation – by Philip Freund.
On the other hand the Biblical Creation account taken as whole becomes EVEN more stronger, irrefutable and above all it paints a beautiful clear
picture of how things came to be. In addition they can be scientifically proven as far as our scientific knowledge allows us. None of the myths is
able to do that. They fail miserably when put against (the light of) science.
In short, the fact of creation is clearly stated in the Bible. It is in harmony with scientific evidence found in astronomy, physics, chemistry,
geology and biology.
To further prove my point below is a summary of the Biblical Creation account: (I posted these already on another thread)
Sequence of Creation Events according to the Bible:
1) Planets, sun moon stars already existed (created) billions and billions of years.
2) Watery earth was formless.
3) Preparation for earth to be inhabited.
Day 1: Light (of some sort) came to be on a formless watery earth.
Day 2: Separation between waters above and waters below, expanse (sky) appeared.
Day 3: Dry land, vegetation, organism appeared and water basins formed (seas).
Day 4: Lights from the luminaries became discernible from earth. Days and seasons.
Day 5: Animals of every sort appeared; fish, flying creatures, sea monsters – dinosaurs.
Day 6: More animals -wild and domestic and finally man was created.
Day 7: Creation stopped.
NONE of the myths invented by man have such detailed and accurate description of Creation account.
Now, here's what science said about how life appeared on earth in general order.
The account lists 10 major stages in this order:
(1) A beginning.
(2) A primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water.
(4) An atmosphere.
(5) Large areas of dry land.
(6) Land plants.
(7) Seasons beginning.
(8) Sea and flying creatures.
(9) Wild and tame beasts, mammals.
Now notice this statement from someone who studied these things:
Noted geologist Wallace Pratt commented:
“If I as a geologist were called upon to explain briefly our modern ideas of the origin of the earth and the development of life on it to a
simple, pastoral people, such as the tribes to whom the Book of Genesis was addressed, I could hardly do better than follow rather closely much of the
language of the first chapter of Genesis.”
He also observed that the order as described in Genesis for the origin of the oceans and the emergence of land, as well as for the appearance of
marine life, birds, and mammals, is in essence the sequence of the ‘principal divisions’ of geologic time.
So still think the Biblical Creation account is a myth?
Next u said:
These two gods created everything together. If they created everything then that means that before that moment there was nothing so this
obviously is talking about the big bang.
I’m curious do you know what the whole story is all about and how it ends? But like what I said some of these myths have a kernel of truth in them.
For example, the Epic of Gilgamesh talks about a great flood happening on earth. The story is so exaggerated though that it’s impossible to take it
as factual. But the fact that it mentions a great flood some 4000 years ago makes one pause about Noah’s flood.
In fact according to the book Myths of Creation, Philip Freund estimates that over 500 Flood legends are told by more than 250 tribes and peoples.
Most of these tribes have little or no exposure to the Biblical account of Noah’s Flood – yet the similarities of the events are quite
(Incredibly some opponents of the Bible have the gall to use these myths as their proof that the Bible is a myth – or a copy. Sadly they only make a
fool of themselves.)
Next u said:
Of course I think this and the bible are wrong because before the big bang there was the big crunch which would have been something. I don't
know if it's true but it is a theory.
Yet so far none has proven the Biblical accounts of creation false. Instead the account agrees with known scientific facts.
But as to myths, the are just that myths – will not be able to stand when scrutinized in light of modern scientific knowledge.
As for the fine gauze:
Galaxy survey casts doubt on cold dark matter
Correct it’s still an ongoing debate – bottom line is they have no accurate way of quantifying/identifying it (yet) but they are convince that it
(dark energy/dark matter) makes up 70 -75% of the universe.
The team believes that their discovery could mean that cold dark matter — an invisible substance that some astrophysicists have invoked to
explain the formation and motion of galaxies — does not exist.
I'm not sure but I think the pic you posted is an artists rendition of dark matter. I can't seem to find anything that shows anything similar
stating this is a real photo. So again I must say that this is not a proven fact.
Picture was taken from a simulation in the yt video that I included in the OP: if you want to jump there start at time stamp 16:00. It explains that
they added it to the known data they already have and were quite surprised when they saw the result of their simulation.
But again, just because something can’t be fully explained doesn’t mean it can’t happen. If you can please check out the Event Horizon/Black
quoting Michio Kaku:
"the God of Miracles is, in some sense, beyond what we know as science. This is not to say that miracles cannot happen, only that they are
outside what is commonly called science." [p. 331] Hyperspace: A Scientific Odyssey Through Parallel Universes, Time Warps, and the Tenth Dimension -
Dr. Michio Kaku
Points to ponder:
When an ancient servant of God looked up at the clear, unpolluted night sky, he felt reverential awe, which he put to verse.
Psalm 8:3, 4, reads: “When I see your heavens, the works of your fingers, the moon and the stars that you have prepared, what is mortal man that you
keep him in mind, and the son of earthling man that you take care of him?”
Yet, the psalmist had no telescopes or special instruments. How much more, then, should we feel in awe today now that we have such powerful
instruments like the Hubble Telescopes and unmanned space probes!
Imagine that. But it’s truly sad that people regards these evidences as mere products of accidents and unguided processes because in reality they
confirm the truths that they are products of a Living Creator.
“For with you is the source of life; by light from you we can see light.”—Ps. 36:9.
So still not yet convinced? If not what’s your alternative?