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Israeli schoolbus hit with anti-tank weapon fired from Gaza, critically wounding teen

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Out of these 350 people I would expect most if not all are families, it's a kibbutz.



What I found about the video was the driver..


Yeah he does seem to be okay, but remember these are videos taken from the news broadcasts of the event, meaning no one was trying to hide anything, they even refer to the driver as lightly injured.

So who's the person in the gurney? Could it be the child?



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by Eliad
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Heh false flag meter


Why don't you watch the videos and observe the scene yourself, see what you can come up with.. It's on 72 or something..


What I found about the video was the driver..
We've seen pics of him being restrained/helped by two policeman..
He is supposed to be injured yet in the video we see him walking around with no apparent injuries while talking on his mobile..


yes I see the driver seeming to want to hide from the camera !!!!!


and he sure don't look hurt either !!!!



WHO can explain this sudden immaculate Revelation ???


the meter is rising .... but not quite up to level 3 yet.

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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of course, the point is that all the news reports are different !!

what about the equipment pictures ?



still at level 2

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Eliad
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Heh false flag meter


Why don't you watch the videos and observe the scene yourself, see what you can come up with.. It's on 72 or something..



I have .... many times over

looks like a training video for classroom presentations.

so do all the pictures.

the driver in the video is highly suspect now !

Proto's secondary theory may now be a possibility since we also have a photo of the driver being hauled away by police !!!!!!!!

maybe He actually CAUSED an accident somewhere and was a wanted man ?


2 and 3/4 ..... meter at 3 any time now.

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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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However it would be a false assumption that people who are on the quest for truth care in a political sense as to where that truth leads.


Really? It would be a false assumption to assume anyone might have their political tendency clouding their judgement? In a forum that deals mostly with politics? Come on..

But I wasn't talking about politics, I was referring more to the conspiracy buffs amongst us.
Also I didn't say I think everyone here is biased, I actually think this is being conducted pretty honestly, I simply said this goes both ways..



I wouldn't pretend you have any idea what my sources are.

Don't pretend, reveal.
Tell us what secret sources led you to conclude this is a conspiracy, and explain the nature of it.

With respect,
Eliad.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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So who's the person in the gurney? Could it be the child?


He'd be the only candidate I can think of which makes the video more strange..

With the injured still on site it's obviously early in the event yet they let the cameraman walk inside the bus filming??
Don't they need to investigate before letting people wander amongst the scene spoiling evidence??

Seems very very odd to me.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by backinblack
 


Out of these 350 people I would expect most if not all are families, it's a kibbutz.



What I found about the video was the driver..


Yeah he does seem to be okay, but remember these are videos taken from the news broadcasts of the event, meaning no one was trying to hide anything, they even refer to the driver as lightly injured.

So who's the person in the gurney? Could it be the child?




lightly injured is right !!!

but the other crystal clear photos of the driver now look like an arrest, not a medical response !!!

were they hiding something THEN ??

training ......


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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Why different?

One says they didn't know it was a school bus, the other quotes a Hamas operative in saying he thinks it couldn't have been a school bus, one more says Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility yet, the other is the announcement from Hamas, published on the same day as the article..

What's weird about the equipment is that it's places in the same spot in both locations?

What's the difference though? If this is a training photo and someone was ordered to place the bags at the same spot in both training exercises, why shouldn't the same happen in a real event? This doesn't indicate training, it just indicates someone put the bags at the same spot in both locations...



looks like a training video for classroom presentations.

lol if it's a training video why is there only one wounded? Why are there civilians there? Why are they talking about the specifics of the event? And why would anyone video an exercise so poorly?

With respect,
Eliad.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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I tried the earlier link to this video that you guys are discussing and I couldn't find it. I found web sites that had Hebrew writing and for the life of me I could not find a playable video anywhere. Could someone please provide a direct link to it for me. I'd really like to check it out.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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we need to recall this credible article.......with the driver recalling all the drama and fanfare


(Jerusalem Post 4-11-2011)


Heroic bus driver says he always feared attack

“I thought about it. I wasn’t afraid for myself, I was afraid for the children,” says Zion Yamini, “I always left my house with a heavy heart.”

The flames and smoke did not deter school-bus driver Zion Yamini from pulling his one passenger, Daniel Viflic, 16, to safety.

As the Beit Shemesh teenager fought for his life in Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba on Sunday, Yamini recalled for the media the fateful moment when an anti-tank missile hit his school bus last Thursday afternoon.

As he stood outside his Negev home in Kibbutz Ruhama in the late afternoon, Yamini described how he had just left the Nahal Oz Kibbutz, and was on his way to the Sa’ad intersection, when an explosion rocked his bus.

The tires burst. The windows shattered. All the doors on the bus opened from the force of the blast, he said. The bus was filled with smoke from the flames, he added.

Somehow, Yamini said, he was able to pull the bus to the side. Then he saw Viflic, and said he knew the teen was so badly wounded that he would not be able to exit the bus on his own.

“I said to myself, you need all your strength so that you can get this child out so that he won’t burn to death on the bus,” Yamini said. “I got up and I don’t know from where I got the strength. I picked up the boy and I was able to place him on my back.

I was covered with blood and I didn’t know if it was mine or the boy’s.”

Slowly, Yamini made his way out of the vehicle with the teen and laid him gently on the ground.


The army arrived within minutes, and forced him to evacuate the scene.

“I wanted to stay with the boy, but they took me away,” he said.

He added that he knew Viflic and his family, and loved him very much.

“I only wanted the best for him,” said Yamini.

He explained that he had worked as a driver in the area for the last 26 years – traveling down that road at least once a day.


It isn’t a military road, Yamini said – it is used by civilians, including school buses like his.

In the last decade, he he said he always feared that a rocket or mortar would land on his vehicle.

“I thought about it. I wasn’t afraid for myself, I was afraid for the children,” he said. “I always left my house with a heavy heart.”

In Soroka Hospital – where Viflic’s parents have kept vigil by his bedside – his family asked the public to pray for their son.


www.jpost.com...

holsom and heart warming.

look at the picture and then compare what you see to what He says !!!!!

unbelivable !! to say the least and they expect people to actually believe this ?

then re-look at the video.....

no look at both photos of the driver ...... He just went through all that ????



no way I buy any of it.....


WHAT does this really look like and sound like ??? right. training


2 3/4 ....... 2 7/8 ...... 2 15/16 ........ [bell ring] [goat bleating] .....

digital false flag --- no deaths at all.

check that Iron Dome deal .... the answers may lie (no pun intended) there.


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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I picked up the boy and I was able to place him on my back.

I was covered with blood and I didn’t know if it was mine or the boy’s.”


Hmm, his shirt looks pretty clean to me..


And the tires blown BS again??



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Eliad
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Why different?

One says they didn't know it was a school bus, the other quotes a Hamas operative in saying he thinks it couldn't have been a school bus, one more says Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility yet, the other is the announcement from Hamas, published on the same day as the article..

What's weird about the equipment is that it's places in the same spot in both locations?

What's the difference though? If this is a training photo and someone was ordered to place the bags at the same spot in both training exercises, why shouldn't the same happen in a real event? This doesn't indicate training, it just indicates someone put the bags at the same spot in both locations...



looks like a training video for classroom presentations.

lol if it's a training video why is there only one wounded? Why are there civilians there? Why are they talking about the specifics of the event? And why would anyone video an exercise so poorly?

With respect,
Eliad.



that, my friend is the whole point of a training exercise !!!!!!

inject believable confusion and illusions and sort the good from the bad....

i.e. "determine which photos of a scene would be good for a court case and determine which photos are phony as part of a lawsuit for monetary gain" (na, never happens)

....legal mumbo jumbo for the lawyers to use.....but not without expert observations and genuine certifications.

civilians are many time part of an "incident" hence we see "civilian" characters posing as victims etc.

the military trainees may actually be military personel on a "training exercise".

contractors get paid big money for this.


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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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I picked up the boy and I was able to place him on my back.

I was covered with blood and I didn’t know if it was mine or the boy’s.”


Hmm, his shirt looks pretty clean to me..


And the tires blown BS again??


Bingo !!!

Double Bingo !!

AND, how 'bout that pretty lilly white hat !!!!




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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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If I go to the link provided, where on the page do I click to see the video? I can't get anything but ads or something. When I click on other pieces I get another article about something or the other. I don't know where to click to get the video and I do not have a Hebrew to English dictionary. Help!



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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The army arrived within minutes, and forced him to evacuate the scene.

“I wanted to stay with the boy, but they took me away,” he said.


And yet we see him chatting away on his mobile right next to the bus...

This story has more holes than swiss cheese..



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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It's a little down the page on the right.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by jackflap

If I go to the link provided, where on the page do I click to see the video? I can't get anything but ads or something. When I click on other pieces I get another article about something or the other. I don't know where to click to get the video and I do not have a Hebrew to English dictionary. Help!



What a surprise !

I saw the same garb ..... it finally showed up after an onslaught of ads ...

and to think, with such an important event and all....


say, can anybody get some stills off that video ..... there's more than just the driver !



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posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Thanks for the help guys but I will have to take your word for it. That site is just too damn confusing for me to find anything. Every time I click on something that I think is the damn video, I get another add of some sort and I really can't stand that site anymore. I agree with what you are seeing there though.



posted on Apr, 29 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Eliad
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Why different?


What's weird about the equipment is that it's places in the same spot in both locations?




looks like a training video for classroom presentations.


With respect,
Eliad.



THAT's what i'v been trying to tell everybody !!!!

that's part of the training to identify good from tainted !!

the pics have been altered to develop a "keen eye"..




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