Block Wall in an Oklahoma Mine, at least 286 million years old. Who Built It?, page 7


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reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 12:34 AM by bekod
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

well to support my 2.2 billion year old theory as to how long man kind has been around and yes it is just a theory here is a link that well says it plainly ph.answers.yahoo.com... from the link
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Between 4 - 5 billion years old, depending upon how you define the age. The Sun is thought to be roughly 5 billion years old. The Universe is thought to be 13 - 14 billion years old. There are various ways to estimate age, including radioactive decay dating, distances, and more.
we have come a long way. and it seems we have not learned yet, maybe this time we will but then?????time will tell.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 12:50 AM by Arken
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An amazing story!
Thanks for this.
S&F.
Simply fascinating!

Who build it?
Maybe this one....

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reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:00 AM by Arken
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An entire week-end to read the threads posted.

Thank you very much in order to have shown us another important thread of Justin - Jkrog08.
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reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:11 AM by Lyrian
reply to post by ThaLoccster



I did read the article and tried to find more "evidence" to prove he was right about it all, drew a blank, so I'm calling it a fake!
Any photo's of the "wall" will be gladly accepted (and researched).
thanks.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:27 AM by Essan
reply to post by Arken



Unfortunately the deposits in which the 'wall' were found were laid down 220 million years too earlier for it to have been 'dino sapiens' - whome, if he existed, would have been around at towards the end of the Cretaceous.

Back in the Carboniferous, the dominant land life forms were giant insects and scorpions. Neither reptiles nor mammals had apppeared.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:37 AM by Arken
reply to post by Essan



Are you Sure?

Dinosaurs are a diverse group of animals that were the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for over 160 million years, from the late Triassic period (about 230 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (about 65 million years ago). The extinction of most dinosaur species occurred during the Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event.

en.wikipedia.org...

But Who knows.
Only a pale theory.

I'm sure that also this theory will be revisited from paleontologists.

250, 350, 500 million years ago... I bet!
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reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:44 AM by Daedalus24
reply to post by CodeRed3D



Really? I didn't know we had developed carbon dating back in 1928... Carbon dating is quite foolproof if done correctly so I really fail to see how it's unreliable.

Also to the OP: you got this article off a blog whos author claims that "historians would agree that human civili[z]ation began sometime in the 1850's" hinting to the fact that either A) Humans hadn't organized socially before that, B) no human culture had developed science, mathematics, organized religion, music etc. and C) ancient artifacts and sites around the world hinting at civilization were in fact not created by human civilization. The author of the blog post that this op is based on is a moron...clear an simple.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 02:22 AM by Elliot
s8int.com...

Rockwall in Texas. That's the one!
Also one in Mississippi I believe.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 03:31 AM by spikey
reply to post by notsosunny



Did anyone see that documentary on TV recently (about a year ago i think) that was called something like 'If humans disappeared tomorrow' or similar?...it was a good programme that posed the question, how much evidence of humanity would remain, and how long would it remain, if humanity suddenly went the way of the Dodo.

If i remember rightly, the vast majority of our buildings, roads, tracks and so on would crumble, rot and be gone in as little 500 years.

There would be evidence left in the form of certain plastics and composite items, but these too would crumble away in about 5000 years.

So really, apart from jewellery items, and things like that, if future archaeologists in say 20,000 years were digging for evidence of our current generations, they'd find virtually nothing..coins, jewellery, certain industrial items made from gold, diamond, and so on might be found, certainly no structures, computers, ipods, mobile phones, cars, aircraft, etc.

Unless a city was completely buried and preserved in an oxygen free environment, like from silt due to a mega tsunami, or tidal wave and layered over (as this wall may have been) by millennia of sediments and Earth, nothing much would remain to show we were ever here.

They might find some jewellery, or gold/silver coins etc, but probably would not conclude we were highly advanced technologically, as no evidence of complex machinery or the ability to fly in aircraft, sailing in mighty ships, travelling to space, complex electronics would remain.

They would probably credit us with a society similar to how we view 20,000 year old human archaeological finds today.

If this wall had not been layered over by the organic material and silts that eventually became compressed coal, it too would probably have eroded and disappeared.

Anyone fancy Organising an ATS expedition to the mine for some investigation work?
You USA members could organise a local expedition (group together for discounted travel and lodging, or camp under canvas, etc), and report back to us in the rest of the members in the world too poor to afford the travel cost ()

It would be an interesting trip i'd imagine.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 04:26 AM by spikey
Originally posted by Essan
Originally posted by spikey

Curiously though, there are lots of tales like this doing the rounds...table mountain in South Africa has numerous mines in and under it, and there are many reports of tales *very* similar to this one...strange iron hammers, tin cups, all sorts of things, found in deposits that are concretions laid millions of years ago.



And curiously enough no-one in recent times has ever found these mines, seen these artifacts, and, in fact, apart from 100 year old newspaper reports there is absolutely no evidence in support of the stories.

You don't think that then, as now, the media made up stories for the entertainment of their readers?

In 100 years time, ATS members will be discussing the existence of Batboy and the WWII Bomber found on the Moon, and poo-pooing the debunkers who try and argue they never really existed .......


I don't doubt it.

Humans will always find more reasons to argue than reasons to agree.

If this wall had been found in the reported ancient mines in SA, then i'd imagine it or some evidence of it should have remained from 100-200 years ago...but a small hand hammer? A tin pot or so?

*Much* easier to lose, to hide, to bury in a dusty museum drawer labelled as either a hoax, or 'awaiting corroboration'.

If the silencing of miners and the general hiding of these finds (for whatever reason, religious, idealogical etc) is true, it would explain the lack of evidence remaining.

It's like anything else...he who writes the history books, controls history.
The establishment has always controlled history and our access to it.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 05:10 AM by sitchin
Originally posted by Arken
reply to
post by Ophiuchus 13



An amazing story!
Thanks for this.
S&F.
Simply fascinating!

Who build it?
Maybe this one....

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who's to say the dinosaurs didn't evolve . i bet david icke would love that blood line theory lol


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 05:50 AM by Essan
Originally posted by Arken
reply to
post by Essan



Are you Sure?


Absolutely. There were no dinosaurs in the late Carboniferous or early Permian. They only evolved in the late Triassic - as your quote states - long after the P/T extinction (251mya) had wiped out most life on earth.
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