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Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander
Too caught up in ideals to face reality, I see.
You do realize that they are utterly ignoring the will of the people right now, dont you?
None of the mechanics you stated matter one little bit of the politicians in office all refuse to work for the people, and serve another master.
We HAVE to get people in who are not part of the two party system. You can say what you like about my "idealism." Clearly, you do not know me from my posts, etc. If you did you would know that idealism is not my cup of tea, at all.
No. We need to do what we should have done in 2008, but everyone was busy masturbating themselves for being progressive enough to vote in a "black" guy. We need to bypass the two party system and using the democratic system itself, reassert control of our nation.
Your brilliant strategy is what? Keep voting in the same two parties and hope something changes? Knowing that they are both actually funded by the same people?
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
what you guys don't understand is Govt. shutdown can only mean Obama stays in power but congress and senate closes shop, then it's Obama as a dictator and the Police force & army.
What you guys don't realize is that this would be a wet dream for Obama and those who pull his strings.
He already created more czar positions than any other president and has so many executive orders, all which bypass senate and congress.
Obama would love a shutdown!
Originally posted by Aim64C
Otherwise - the "will of the people" gets a little murky. Especially when you sit me and a member of the communist party down in the same room. There won't be much in the way of a "will of the people" there. Only an argument that will rage along a fundamental difference in personality and sense of being.
You just lost me.
This isnt 1950 or 1960. The only commies left in the world worth discussing own America right now, thanks to the right AND left wing. (China) And really, you are moving off into rhetoric land. Some discussions with some people are not worth having, and judging from the tag lines you use, Im going to guess you have been fighting commies since before I was born.
You, and people like you, are responsible for this mess. Those of us who are done playing cowboys and Indians are going to have to clean up after you. I know you cant see why a third party would be useful. You just want someone to hate, and you like two parties. You dont have to think much. Its Them and Us. With three, holy cow, you might have to use some intelligence to decide who to vote for!
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Whereweheaded
So Bachmann can just go peddle her wares to the cousin #ing mountain folk who would be about the only ones I can imagine would buy into the two party fallacy at this point.
Edi to add an apology in advance for any cousin #ers out there whom I may offend by implying they only live on mountains.edit on 7-4-2011 by Illusionsaregrander because: (no reason given)