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Originally posted by SaturnFX
I am seeing alot of general "I voted for obama for hope and change". now, here is where the suspicion grows...they never say an issue or two they voted for.
I am calling several out here as wolves disguised as sheep..yep, liars.
oh sure...I was a long term dem, then I thought bush would be good, so I voted for him...boy was I wrong...us bush voters sure got duped...lets not do that again, lesson learned.
total fabrication...I never voted for bush, and many of you "I voted for obama for both hope and change" didn't vote for obama either..bunch of bad acting liars. If you are interested in moderately liberal ideas and ideals, you voted for obama...if your a conservative, you voted for mccain..the only way to even slightly believe some of you is to think "oh, maybe they did vote for hope and change..just hope and change...no clue what the issues were, they just voted for two keywords...why? because they really are =that= stupid."
If your a lib, your a bit upset that several things are yet unresolved after 2 years, but pleased in some things that were finally addressed...financial regulations, healthcare, dadt, etc...
ATS is a good board, but with nonsense pushed on here by some of you, I am embarassed to be even taking part in this board with all these lying shills. Its intellectually insulting and is trying to sink the debate down to the most apelike nonsense out there. I prefer the "hows that hope and change working out for ya" crap the neocons did..at least they weren't pretending to be something they simply don't understand.
Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
As much as I want to feel sympathy for all of you who were fooled, its hard, because for some of us it was so god damned obvious.
You can paint your car any color you want, put different emblems even, it may look new and even fool some people. But, every important component that makes that car actually operate will be the same, and slowly getting worse.
Why dont we take Obama's advice and just trade in for something new?
Originally posted by metaldave
Apology NOT accepted. you are part of the problem/reason I, as a REAL American, cannot move forward as I was so happily doing so until this freak was elected. All you had to do was pick up one of his books & read a few chapeters, to find out who this douche was really about. But no. You couldn't even do that. Live long and suffer Mother F*#c*r.
Don't rest in hell...
Originally posted by randyvs
Ok yoo were wrong. I don't think you know why you wrong. How could you have been right? There isn't any way to be right. The best you could hope for was to avoid being wrong. A vote for the other guy wouldn';t have been right. How could voting for the loser be right? So what to do ?
Originally posted by RobertAntonWeishaupt
Originally posted by gncnew
Originally posted by RobertAntonWeishaupt
First off, I need to say that I am in a similar boat to you with regards to regretting my choice in '08. Though I fail to see how McCain would have been any better and we were, as ever, the third party candidates would never be allowed to win.
That said, I have to take exception to this line above. Americans should not believe that they are universally and automatically "exceptional". America is a nation. Just like any other. A nation that had evolved steadily into one of tremendous personal freedoms, cultural vibrancy, technological innovation and financial power.
See that's just it. America is exceptional... A vast majority of the last 200 years in invention and innovation came from this country because of what it's built upon:
-Free men and women working for their dreams and aspiration with no limits imposed by religion, race, or creed.
Originally posted by Drew99GT
Originally posted by badgrammaman
everyones vote was a waste of time the result was in before anyone cast a vote.
Yup. On the big issues of war and peace, and especially commerce and finance, ANY president would be doing the exact same things as Barry Soetoro (Ron Paul included, I'm afraid - JFK was shot dead for doing the right thing). He takes orders for the multi-national corporations and banks just like the rest of them...
...The only thing that will truly change things and bring back real true libertarian freedom is if people rise up, especially US military members. I support them 100%, but lets face it. They're mercenaries for western multinational corporations and British controlled banks and they will be ordered to fire on their own citizens if Marshal Law were ever to be enacted when people wake up to the shadow tyrannical government that controls them.edit on 8-4-2011 by Drew99GT because: (no reason given)edit on 8-4-2011 by Drew99GT because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DCPatriot
It really pi$$es me off too, that there are so many ill-informed people who think a POTUS election is like voting on American Idol.