Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama !!

trump for president? really? he has went bankrupt 3 times, you can't do that with a country and somehow get a new start as he has. you can't run a country like you run a business, if you think so, sit down a minute and put pencil to paper, and work out how you would handle the poor, disabled, poorly educated, elderly, etc... plus, a corporation is a dictatorship, and trump couldn't handle dealing with, or answering to, the common people.

besides, this is just a distraction for medias benefit, it keeps them occupied, while the real candidates keep their powder dry, and keep media away from close scrutiny...this is simply throwing the MSM a bone to metaphorically chew on.

This might sound like a silly question but ' Who is Donald trump'?

Originally posted by NowanKenubi
Well, Obama being the first Black POTUS, I was wondering if there was still some sour southern sentiments against black people in general, and him in particular for having achieved this position.

Oh, I see. Yes, there is still some of that and I have no idea if it factors into this issue. I'm sure some southerners (and some northerners) and very uncomfortable with a black president.

I call Obama "black" or "African American" because that's how he refers to himself. It's not for me to say what he is. Although it does seem to be important to some people. I don't understand why.

I love your posts here.

Originally posted by truther357
It is obvious that ATS is filled with left wing airheads that do nothing but 'talk the talk'...Just like their illegal, lying,Obama's team of Marxist: "Criminal-In-Chief"

They do not research the documented "TRUTH" about this criminal and are gullible to any simple bias left wing fictions.

Show us your documented proof...LOL!

shocker!! another republican name-caller (yawn) ...why would anyone try and show YOU documented proof, you would simply call it fake, so what you request is a useless time-wasting endeavor. please return to your kindergarten class.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


He is a golf course creator and brand mogul. He sells his name to people that want to put it on signs to hype buildings he has nothing to little to do with. He is a hype man. A snake oil salesman. The Donald is a whole other breed of being. It takes a special kind of genius to bankrupt your own casino.

Donald Trump is kind of like the male Oprah, only he's lost all his money a few times. I prefer Oprah, myself, but wouldn't want her to be president. At least she's better with finances.

Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Huissen Muhammed Obama, is NOT a U.S. Citizen and is a lying piece of # who is a pawn for Mobil Oil (look up his Step-father, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, and his work with Mobil Oil).

You guys freaking kill me. I can't believe such a ridiculous, mindless conspiracy theory still exists.

You seriously think that a man who was not born in America could possibly be named president? You must think of your country as some Mickey Mouse institution where everything is based on handshake agreements and nothing is verified.

Do you honestly believe that his birthplace was not verified before he was made a candidate for presidency?

Do you honestly think that the Democrats would risk placing all their hopes on a guy who isn't even allowed to be president? On what was probably the most important election for the Democrats in recent history? REALLY?

I mean come on...The fact that this is still being debated, to me, shows that it's quite clearly a joke of an issue. If this was some big, huge secret that could destroy Obama and his administration, and there was some crazy papertrail that a bunch of internet detectives and a guy with lots of money and free time could easily track down, don't you think the conspirators would do more to squash the issue?

I'm pretty sure the Democrats and the CIA have access to Adobe Photoshop. They could have whipped up a fake BC that would have shut everyone up and this never would have been an issue. The fact that they didn't even bother shows that nobody actually takes this seriously.

I mean, these are the same people that apparently managed to ram a bunch of holographic planes into a building and then detonated magic bombs that nobody can remember ever being installed.

Originally posted by Xterrain
Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Huissen Muhammed Obama, is NOT a U.S. Citizen and is a lying piece of # who is a pawn for Mobil Oil (look up his Step-father, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, and his work with Mobil Oil).

frankly, nobody cares what you think, please stop using valuable bandwidth here on ATS.

reply to post by DazedDave


Don't you freakin' get it, man? It's not that it's crazy.
It's that it's so frickin' crazy it's blowin' yer damn mind, man!
No one ever raised such radical questions before and therefore, the American people suddenly realized they never cared about it before. Now...now....now. See, now. Now it is something. It is really something special now. See, they want you to think that it would be so impossible to do that the very idea of questioning it would be absurd in and of itself but that only opens the door for the possibility that since it is so crazy and impossible to have kept people from questioning it before, it must be asked now. That is how insanely clever Obama's mom was. Duh. Winning!

reply to post by DazedDave


Seeing as how there is much corruption on so many levels, everywhere we look, it is normal people will think it possible to do a scam that will allow you to seize power in the white house.

And, being on ATS, it is what is expected to be found, conspiracies, no? Otherwise, we would be on Historia Web site or something like that.

Originally posted by DazedDave
You guys freaking kill me. I can't believe such a ridiculous, mindless conspiracy theory still exists.

Do you honestly think that the Democrats would risk placing all their hopes on a guy who isn't even allowed to be president? On what was probably the most important election for the Democrats in recent history? REALLY?

The fallacy of your argument could easily be explained by any or all of the following:

* obama never told the democrats
* the democrats never checked.
* after obama's campaign got rolling and it looked like he had a chance to win, the democrats didn't want to check.
* if the democrats knew, they (rightfully it seems until Trump came along) thought no one would seriously try to undo a presidency.

I didn't read all the post nor do I intend to, the stupid bickering is insane, but the fact of the matter is... Why can the government look through all my records and history but we can get one damn document about our presidents past? I don't care if you are for him or against him. Show the damn papers, not some presidential order that says I can't. Why can't I see his school records? Because he sealed them... WHY? How do I know he even went to school? Because he said so? He's said a lot of other crap too, which has been nothing but a big pile of manure. How come I can't see any records for someone that works for me as an elected official? But every time I turn around they want ALL of my information? It's F*&$ing crazy! Our president is the one person that we should know EVERYTHING about, but we aren't allowed to know anything about him! This country is so backasswards. I want to know everything about him and it's my goddamn right to know, he is running my country. This country is dead in the water. Now go back to sleep...

About the link that brought us to the page about Obama not being eligible for presidency, a Volokh says:

"I have no reason to doubt that President-Elect Obama was born in Hawaii, and is therefore a natural-born citizen."

For an attorney, I find it strange that he relies on "doubt" or not and then make a statement that it is proof.

If I want to take the plane to go see my mom, I have to be probed, x-rayed, have my life scrutinized, etc.

Why are they doubting ME?!? This kind of thing, to me, only serves to inflame rather than calm down.


AS PROOF, read the post right above this one!

reply to post by jimmyx
This is why you call yourself Jimmy(X)--"Talk the Talk" and post your narrow-minded, uninformed, ignorance on line for the world to see.

reply to post by centurion1211


If Obama admits he was born in Kenya then we get President Joe Biden?
God save us all !
He would have to hand it over to Hillary for the 2012 election.
Hillary Clinton -vs- Sarah Palin ?

Originally posted by yayeeya
I didn't read all the post nor do I intend to, the stupid bickering is insane, but the fact of the matter is... Why can the government look through all my records and history but we can get one damn document about our presidents past?

Are you suggesting that Obama is hiding something the government is asking to see or are you suggesting that we all have access to all your personal information? This confuses me.

I don't care if you are for him or against him. Show the damn papers,

Nein

reply to post by Eurisko2012

Hillary Clinton -vs- Sarah Palin ?

And people say there is no conspiracy here!!!

Maybe Obama's Presidency was only to have people accept a woman as President, on the next election?...

Originally posted by Sinnthia
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

He is a golf course creator and brand mogul. He sells his name to people that want to put it on signs to hype buildings he has nothing to little to do with. He is a hype man. A snake oil salesman. The Donald is a whole other breed of being. It takes a special kind of genius to bankrupt your own casino.

edit on 8-4-2011 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)

Thanks,sorry i asked,i dont like nasty people like that.

Originally posted by DazedDave
You guys freaking kill me. I can't believe such a ridiculous, mindless conspiracy theory still exists.

You seriously think that a man who was not born in America could possibly be named president? You must think of your country as some Mickey Mouse institution where everything is based on handshake agreements and nothing is verified.

Do you honestly believe that his birthplace was not verified before he was made a candidate for presidency?

Do you honestly think that the Democrats would risk placing all their hopes on a guy who isn't even allowed to be president? On what was probably the most important election for the Democrats in recent history? REALLY?

I mean come on...The fact that this is still being debated, to me, shows that it's quite clearly a joke of an issue. If this was some big, huge secret that could destroy Obama and his administration, and there was some crazy papertrail that a bunch of internet detectives and a guy with lots of money and free time could easily track down, don't you think the conspirators would do more to squash the issue?

I'm pretty sure the Democrats and the CIA have access to Adobe Photoshop. They could have whipped up a fake BC that would have shut everyone up and this never would have been an issue. The fact that they didn't even bother shows that nobody actually takes this seriously.

I mean, these are the same people that apparently managed to ram a bunch of holographic planes into a building and then detonated magic bombs that nobody can remember ever being installed.

show the BC. period. nothing else needs to be said. Infact, I dont even need to read your entire post because you we're probably paid to post it. show the BC because.... why not?