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Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama !!

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:18 PM
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

I think that is an excellent political strategy as well.

It keeps the focus off other more substantial things. It wastes time and resources on a red herring, and it kind of funnels your opponents into a false basket of hope. When you spring the rebuttal on them later, they are left with no wind in their sails, and you can move on with your original agenda unimpeded.

I think Trump has some terrific attributes, such as his capitalist and hardball business experience, but he is a divisive character, people love or hate him, so he better be very careful about doing down the wrong rabbit hole.
edit on 7-4-2011 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:27 PM
reply to post by getreadyalready

Yep, we will see how it plays out.

I will give Trump this...he has made a big splash and has focused all the attention on him. I'm betting the other republican potential candidates are hating that right now.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by spyder550

I highly recommend you research a tad more...your author of your beloved " source ", :

Reporter Stephanie works in Mother Jones' Washington bureau. A Utah native and graduate of a crappy public university not worth mentioning, she has spent the last year hanging out with angry white people who occasionally don tricorne hats and come to lunch meetings heavily armed

Her bio goes on to say :

She is the author of Blocking the Courthouse Door: How the Republican Party and Its Corporate Allies Are Taking Away Your Right to Sue

Which is seriously left wing bias.

A contributing editor of the Washington Monthly, a former investigative reporter at the Washington Post

The washington post? BWAAAHAH now there is fair and balance media!

Your source
cross referenced with the same one on her bio

Wow .....just wow!

In essence you quote WND and A crazy guy, who had no facts. I would be interested if you could dispute the facts in the article. I cant dispute your facts because the only place they appear to have originated is some dark place where the sun doesn't shine.

Every time you try to chase down the brazillion dollar thing it circles back to a souce that dosent really say why they believe that their facts are right, Keyes (creationists are not real good with facts) and WND.seem to be the only source ------ No citations -- it ain't so.

This is where WND turns into rubbish Using a photoshopped photo to try to say a ohoto was photoshopped even the freepers are calling foul.

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 04:07 PM
This will turn out to be a Flase Flag...just wait and see. Trump will find out, so he will say, that Barrys was born in the USA so this will get all the birthers of of Barry back so he can rule America for 4 more yrs....It is a set up bought and paid for by TPTB....Trump does not want to be a dam puppet President...and TPTB don't want him to be anyway...There is no way....They already know who will be the next president...They just need this birther thing to go away because it is causing problems for them....They want to calm back down the masses and get them back to sleep.....

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 04:19 PM
reply to post by Caji316

Hey! That's another interesting conspiracy angle to Trump's sudden involvement in politics! Do you think the Democrats hired Trump as a 'mole' of sorts to do this work? Really interesting!

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 04:31 PM

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by anon72

Well, you have one thing will be on hell of an election season.

Good comedy, the repulican candidate field is like one big clown car...the clowns just keep on coming out. I would pay money to see a Palin vs Trump debate...I think they could put it on PPV as a comedy event.

As far as investigating would think if Obama is really as bad of a President as all the republicans say he is...then they wouldn't even have to bother with silly "birther" issues. But it appears that is all they have...attempt to disqualify him or bring up fake impeachment charges.

I guess they are that scared of Obama.

Really bro? If he truly wanted to end this he would just flat out show his birth certificate but he is hiding something.
I would say the exact same thing if it was a republican also.

But you clearly see one sided...which is idiocracy. Good luck solving anything in this world.

Oh and just for **** and are too much of a know it all.
Not to sure why? None of your crap makes any sense.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by spyder550

Geez how does a casino go bankrupt
I live in Las Vegas and have certainly seen more than one or two go bankrupt over the last 20 years.
Tell me how the Station Casino's are saying they are bankrupt among many others so no Donald is not alone when it comes to casino's failing and it happens more often than you think.
I am not a Trump fan by any means but Obama and pretty much ALL gov't officials has got to go and please don't call me a racist as i was married to a black woman and even lived in her parents house so can't use that race card here.
Even if it were an American born on American soil it would make no difference as to what's going on because YOU CAN NOT BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT SELLING YOUR SOUL.
Yes neither party is good and they are all in bed together and unless you get someone from the middle or lower class (which will never happen again and seen to that by TPTB seems you can't run without millions probably closer to billions of dollars in support) it's all over but the enslaving.
AMERICA IS NOT A COUNTRY IT IS A CORPORATION and tell me how many corporations care about people and making the world a better place.
When is everyone going to wake up that this is not a country and was sold to the highest bidder in 1933 (the coup that took over America - Smedley Butler undisputed fact and debunk that) and was incorporated through the FED.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 04:47 PM
reply to post by johngrissom

You are free to disagree with my opinions...but you can keep the personal insults to yourself please.

Obama has nothing to gain from showing anything right now. What motive does he have right please a very very very small portion of the population that thinks he was born in Kenya??? He knows, just as we all do, that nothing will satisfy this group of people...a video of his birth with palm trees and a volcano in the background wouldn't be enough proof for birthers.

So he is doing the right thing...which is nothing...until it will serve a purpose. That will be when a republican candidate has commited themselves so much to the birther argument that it will crush them when he reveals his long form cert...or if a state passes a law that requires him to show it to get on the ballot.

Until then...tough cookies...he doesn't have to show anything.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 05:07 PM
reply to post by anon72

I want to see his birth certificate, the authentic one, not some photocopy and think that providing that material prior to being put on an ballot or receiving FEC funds should be a requirement.

I am also interested in seeing what he put on his applications to prep school, college and law school. I think there is a distinct possibility that he was in fact born in Hawaii, but in order to receive preferential treatment relative to admissions or scholarships that he in fact listed him self as foreign born. That is fraud and an impeachable offence.

There are enough open questions regarding his birth status and how that status was used that require public disclosure.

I'm also tired of this business that he has his own privacy rights. He has to produce his annual medical evaluations, he can not be sued, there are already items for which he is either denied or granted the different rights as other citizens.

If Trump does find something, all you will learn is that Obama has decided for family reasons not to run for reelection. Thats it.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 05:49 PM
CNN is debunking Trump's claims about Obama's birth certificate right now (3:50 PM Pacific Time).

For anyone whose interested.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 05:51 PM
reply to post by meathed

Dont forget ats members there is always the chance that somebody has got to Trump somehow via blackmail etc.......and all this recent Obama intrest is just another secret agenda buy the powers that be, pay close attention to this and we will see where it leads

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:19 PM
CNN is trying to help cover up information, on the The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer they carried a story today on the Obama birth certificate issue. In the report they stated that vital statistics in Hawaii do not issue out original birth certificates, that is an out right lie. If it is applied for they will issue the full birth certificate with all pertinent information on who the doctor was that delivered the baby, time of birth, weight, length, surnames of both parents their place of birth and so on.
CNN is nothing more than a propaganda News channel.
In this program today it is CNN trying to deny what Trump is saying.

I could not find the report done where CNN quotes what vital statistics said.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:41 PM
reply to post by Fuzzy Wabbit

I'm a little confused about something.. why would he need people to watch his show?

If you say, "for money", I think you gotta remember who we're talking about here.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:30 PM
Why would anyone vote for Trump? He's part of the corporate elite in this country. I guess we haven't learned our lesson when we had two oil elites in the white house.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:26 PM
obama should retaliate and send an irs agent to look into his tax records.

he should also send agents to look into his business dealings and corporate tax filings.

that should shut up trump.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 08:44 PM
It may be that there is just something embarrassing on Obama's birth certificate that he does not want everyone to know. Perhaps he was born with an extra toe or something of that sort.

Donald Trump spending money to try to find out whether the President was born in this country is as silly as the first ladies' 700 dollar shoes.

If it does turn out that he wasn't born here in America, well, what's the difference? It wouldn't be the only lie he has told. No one needs to hire a team of investigators to show that.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 09:04 PM
Good God, I hope Trump isn't actually running.....I hope this is one big, fat publicity stunt. This man is just as shady as the next guy, and the only reason he's throwing away all this money to "uncover the truth" is because we all buy into it and get him more publicity and attention which means more money for him.

But, like I said before, I'd rather him do this than to leak a sex tape for more publicity

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 09:19 PM
You can see Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama ("Criminal-In-Chief") Kenyan long form birth certificate here...."Criminal-In-Chief"

You can see this Illegal, lying, Obama resume here...Obama and his Marxist comrades

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 09:41 PM

Originally posted by 1curious1
I think that if Obama didn't have anything to hide, he wouldn't have spent over two million dollars trying to hide it

Why do you claim Obama has spent $2million hiding something?

Care to show exactly how and where he spent that money, or is it just a birther lie that you are blindly repeating?

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 09:45 PM

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
he has failed to show his long form birth certificate along with any records of his certificates from various universities/colleges etc.

Please show us those records for all previous Presidents, or why are you only demanding Obama shows his? because he is black!

Obama even went as far to have them forge a fake birth certificate

Wrong again, it is the racist birthers who forged a birth certificate...

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