Woman shoots back at Lindsey Graham on Youtube, page 4
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reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 09:25 AM by dude69
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Fight for what is right is the wrong way to go about. Resist that which is wrong would be sufficiant enough.

For example. If every guy just refused to go overseas and shoot strangers, politicians and TPTB wouldn't have

anybody to fight their wars. They'd have to carry out fist fights or something ^^

But now it's too late anyway.
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reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 09:34 AM by jimmyx
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



"Either we fight for what is right, or we lament that others will not fight that fight for us. Which do you honestly think is the more practical solution to obtain freedom?"

to a starving man, if the "choice" is to fight for what is right, or living under a tyrant who feeds you, the tyrant always wins. unfortunately, this has been the case throughout history, and is insidious in many societies of today.
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reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 10:02 AM by sdcigarpig
Having watched that video and what was stated by Rep. Graham, there are a few things that can be stated:
As much as it is a shame to burn any book, as there is so much ignorance in the world, it only adds to it, it can also be stated, and I would like to use a quote from Babylon 5: Never hand a person a loaded gun, unless you know where they are going to point it.
In the Constitution of the United States of America, the First Amendment states the following:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Now the Rep stated that we are in a war, however, according to the records and all research that is a lie, as no war was declared by Congress before we went into Afghanistan. Yes it is an armed conflict, however it is not a war, and there for any and all power that the US would have and the military is severely limited. Congress has had ample opportunity to declare war, enact it and vote on such and thus has not. If we are at war, then we should by all means, if it is going to offend the enemy, offend them. The reality is that the people who are engaged in open conflict are radical Islamist, and if it upsets them, good, let them be upset. While destruction of any holy text is a shame, nothing is forever, books will degrade, and turn to dust over time, they can be reprinted. The Rep Graham and the person in the video also are mistaken, the curtailing of the freedom of speech has happened several times in the USA, and especially during WWII. That speech was curtailed, not only not to give comfort to those we were fighting against, but also it was to prevent them from knowing what we were up to and where our military forces were at, the best case is the saying: Loose lips sinks ships. The US had endured a sneak attack and were loosing ships in the Atlantic to the sub wolf packs.
Now onto the weapon part that was mentioned before.
The curtailing of the freedom of Speech is a dangerous thing and it opens a door that should never be opened. The founding fathers nailed it shut for a reason, knowing full well, that to open it just a crack can lead to abuses by the government towards the people and is the start of tyranny. If they go through with curtailing one freedom of speech, then that can be used to go even further to curtail the press and the acts of speech. Venues like ATS would be in danger of being shut down, along with any venue, as someone is going to get offended by anything in the world. That is a truth and a fact, and we can not allow the discontentment of a few to affect the whole, nor should the congress be allowed to get away with such, for if they do, then it will be like a dominos standing up, one push and the entire thing will come crashing down.
I do applaud the person making the video for not only standing up to the Rep Graham, but also for putting her own life in danger, as there will be those extremist Islamic persons who will demand her death.



reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 10:34 AM by AuranVector
reply to post by Misoir



Misoir, I enjoyed the readings from the Qu'ran on the second video! lol But I am afraid for this woman! I mean she gave, not only her real name, but her address on youtube. There are creeps that would not hesitate to kill her.
Remember Theo Van Gogh stabbed to death in broad daylight, for making a film critical of Islam?

Hope she's armed.


reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 08:31 AM by fooks
reply to post by AuranVector




then they will suffer wrath if she is harmed?

or do we just shake our heads?

just let it slide, like, she shouldn't outta done that?

i will take some measure myself if she is harmed.


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