Strange Dreams, anyone?, page 2

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reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 08:57 PM by Illusionsaregrander

reply to post by shagreen heart

Ack. That would suck.

I guess I would just die here, because I would not want to go with the aliens. I love my planet.

I wonder why they would destroy it though? Dicks. If it is beyond repair just let it die on its own.

reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 12:40 PM by Illusionsaregrander

reply to post by Kilam7Junaid

That fits the "dreams are practice for threat" school of thought. A nice little video from New Scientist on Dreams.

bcove.me...

My cat has "threat" dreams too. He talks in his sleep and he often vocalizes as if he is fighting with something. And then all the twitching of paws and baring of teeth and what not. So I do believe there is something to this idea that some of our dreams are merely our brain making use of its down side to practice over and over again its defense strategies. You can certainly see readily how that would be advantageous to a living thing who might only get ONE actual chance in life to escape life threatening circumstances.

But there are more than one type of dream. I have the fighting dreams, the running away dreams, etc. But those dont really impress upon my consciousness much. Then there are the message dreams, in which someone, (perhaps your own unconscious, perhaps something divine or supernatural, who knows) is telling you something IT knows, but your conscious mind doesnt. These dreams for me tend to be less common, but very significant.

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reply posted on 13-7-2011 @ 10:29 AM by jonnywhite

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Kilam7Junaid

That fits the "dreams are practice for threat" school of thought. A nice little video from New Scientist on Dreams.

bcove.me...

My cat has "threat" dreams too. He talks in his sleep and he often vocalizes as if he is fighting with something. And then all the twitching of paws and baring of teeth and what not. So I do believe there is something to this idea that some of our dreams are merely our brain making use of its down side to practice over and over again its defense strategies. You can certainly see readily how that would be advantageous to a living thing who might only get ONE actual chance in life to escape life threatening circumstances.

But there are more than one type of dream. I have the fighting dreams, the running away dreams, etc. But those dont really impress upon my consciousness much. Then there are the message dreams, in which someone, (perhaps your own unconscious, perhaps something divine or supernatural, who knows) is telling you something IT knows, but your conscious mind doesnt. These dreams for me tend to be less common, but very significant.

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Absolutely! If there's one thing I'd like to be remembered from this thread it's that dreams could be an evolutionary mechanism that helps to train our defense strategies against threats. If you think about it, our brain is a very creative organ and dreams could be a by-product of this.

Most things we see around us were imagined before they were real. Like submarines:

Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) made sketches of a submarine and William Bourne, a British mathematician, drew plans for a submarine in 1578. But it was only in 1620 that Cornelius van Drebbel, a Dutch inventor, managed to build a submarine.........
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Link: Invention of the submarine

People have been imagining spaceflight for nearly two centuries or more! See here:

From the Earth to the Moon (French: De la Terre à la Lune, 1865) is a humorous science fantasy novel by Jules Verne and is one of the earliest entries in that genre. It tells the story of the president of a post-American Civil War gun club in Baltimore, his rival, a Philadelphia maker of armor, and a Frenchman, who build an enormous sky-facing Columbiad space gun and launch themselves in a projectile/spaceship from it to a Moon landing.
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Link: From the Earth to the Moon

Furthermore, the copernican model of the universe probably did not solely begin in the 16th century even though I think that's the official word on it. Even if it were, I'm sure that many astronomers and other scientific thinkers would have many wondrous nights where they imagined a copernican universe and saw all these stars and imagined other planets around them! In fact, here's an example:

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Bruno also asserted that the stars in the sky were really other suns like our own, around which orbited other planets. He indicated that support for such beliefs in no way contradicted scripture or true religion.
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Link: Giordano Bruno

I think it's probable to say that dreams are a side-effect of our brain mimicking reality! I've used the metaphor before that it's better to make ropes and climbing gear than it's to have 8 legs like a spider! It's better to make submarines and scuba gear than it's to have fins and gills! It's better to have helicopters and airplanes than it's to have wings and feathers! Our brain is a true marvel of nature and it gives us incredible freedom that would be hampered through other means.

Similarly, I feel fantasy is also a side-effect along with many other things too.

Amazing is in our minds and all around us.

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reply posted on 13-7-2011 @ 11:12 AM by chardonnay

reply to post by jonnywhite

I hear that ringing but it is more of a transmission of some sort. It is electrical. Different from the internal ringing.of the ears.It isnt there all the time. I can relate it to changes in my moods .I dont recall it during my dreams however.