Originally posted by SuperZepto
A new field of science has opened up at the Oxford Centre for Neuroethics...they're striving to make a pill that eliminates anger, racism and immoral
thoughts and actions.
A pill to enhance moral behaviour; a treatment for racist thoughts; a therapy to increase your empathy for people in other countries - these may sound
like the stuff of science fiction but, with medicine moving closer to altering our moral state, society should be preparing for the consequences...
If anyone has seen the movie Equilibrium, this is disturbing to say the least. Morality and ethics should be chosen, not forced.
Kahane does not advocate putting morality drugs in the water supply but does suggest that if administered widely, they might help humanity tackle
global issues. "Relating to the plight of people on the other side of the world or of future generations is not in our nature," he says. "This
new body of drugs could make possible feelings of global affiliation and of abstract empathy for future generations."
What does everyone here think about morality and should it be forced via medicine?
When I attempt to envisage a productive, peaceful society, I repeatedly end up with a semi-robotic society
No matter how many times I conduct the exercise, I'm unable to find any other solution
Nor am I able to reconcile unchecked breeding with a productive, peaceful society
So, whether I like it or not, I'm confronted with hybrids or total robots who are sterilized and mind-controlled, with every element of their lives
determined by 'overseers'
It's not as negative as it might sound. For example, in such a society, there would be no unwanted children. There would be no unwanted elderly,
disabled or sociopaths. All these would be eliminated from the pool by the overseers. What would be left would be neat, sexless, emotionless
creatures committed to the continuance and welfare of their society. Housing would be ordered. Lives would be ordered. The environment would take
priority, including large national parks devoted to wildlife
In this 'perfect' society, the vast majority of the robots/hybrids would be engineered for drone-like existences whilst others would be engineered
for intelligence, others for artistic superiority, etc. This would result in societies where the majority labour uncomplainingly for the benefit of
the stability and maintence of their society. Others, according to their speciality, would for example design cities, parks, art-works, etc. whilst
others engaged in scientific research and so on
Wars and conflict would be unknown as would poverty, disease, despoiling of the natural environment, etc.
So, a member of that society (gender would not exist) would live in a model city, would travel to and from their place of work on
environmentally-friendly transport, would suffer no emotional problems (for they would have no emotions) no marital problems, no financial problems
(for everything would be provided by the State) would have no religious conflicts (for there would be no religions, other than a lifetime's
dedication to the State and society) no conflicts with neighbours (for they would have no emotions either) no health problems (for their 'bodies'
would basically be machines). Members of the robotic/hybrid society would have no troubling thoughts -- no thoughts at all, basically - their lives
would consist of an untroubled, obedient, dream-like state
' Children ' would be created in laboratories with their number aligned to the 'termination' (death in our world) of those at their use-by
In short, the society I envisage when I attempt to mentally create a peaceful, co-operative world, is quite similar to the ' artist's impressions'
we see today in advertisements for new housing developments - those neat, perfect renditions where the lawns are always perfect and weedless - where
the trees never grow too tall or become ungainly - where there is no litter, no dirt, no hint of crime or genuinely human occupation. And we're
drawn to those artist's impressions, aren't we ? Obviously we are, for we mortgage away our lives in order to live in those places, only to
discover that they fall short of the ' artist's impressions' once real humans start living in them
We rage about The Powers That Be in this and other fora and we accuse them of controlling our lives. At the same time, we fight to protect our ways
of life and expect The Powers That Be to make sure our ways of life are not threatened -- because we don't want our ways of life to become like those
of 3rd worlders.
We insist on the right to reproduce and we expect The Powers That Be to assist us financially -- even though we know, at the same time, that this
financial assistance is being taken from people who work and are unable to have children of their own because they're being so heavily taxed. The
true result of this is one where the less skilled & less intelligent are out-breeding the more intelligent and skilled members of society in the same
way unskilled, unemployed or part-employed migrants in our societies are out-breeding the nationals - at the expense of the nationals. What do you
believe this will lead to ? Won't it result in migrants of varying beliefs, cultures and religions - in addition to what are referred to as the
'lower' levels of society - will eventually destroy the society upon which it currently feeds ? And what will be the result of this ? Yes, it will
result in an overall lowering of the resulting society which will be less intelligent, less industrious, less cohesive, less productive, etc.
Therefore, although when I first read the OP I initially intended to state my opposition to the 'mind control ' pill -- I now find myself in support