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Originally posted by DonnaLynn
How fantastic! This just further instills the thought that we were technologically advanced before and some major catastrophe occurred which wiped the knowledge out. Could it have been a political uprising? That is what I believe.
Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you. Solon in return asked him what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you why. There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals; at such times those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the seashore. And from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing saviour, delivers and preserves us. When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, the survivors in your country are herdsmen and shepherds who dwell on the mountains, but those who, like you, live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea. Whereas in this land, neither then nor at any other time, does the water come down from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below; for which reason the traditions preserved here are the most ancient.
Originally posted by tonypazzohome
lame. there are no apps for that
Ancient Antikythera Mechanism Continues to Amaze with Recent DiscoveryThe Antikythera mechanism, one of the world's oldest known gadgets, has coughed up another secret. In addition to tracking time and upcoming Olympic games, the mechanism was also great at tracking the motion of the Sun across the sky.
Because the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is an elipse, not a circle, our great life-giving star would appear at times to move more quickly across the sky than at others. The mechanism was great at correcting for this subtle "weirdness" when it involved the Moon's elliptical orbit, thanks to a specialized series of two tiny gears. With the Sun, the effect is even more subtle from an earthbound perspective, so the gears (if they had existed) would have had to be even tinier. Too tiny to be of any practical use, it turns out, so the designer allegedly used something different: Pure geometry.
[Science historian James Evans of the University of Puget Sound] and colleagues suggested a simpler way to make the sun dial appear to change speed: Stretch the zodiac. If the spaces on the front wheel of the mechanism were of different widths, Evans reasoned, then the hand representing the sun would take longer to travel through the part of the year lumped under the zodiac sign of Taurus than through Libra.
The delay would make the sun look like it was moving slower at some times of year and faster at others, even though the gears turning the hand moved at a constant speed.
Ancient Antikythera Mechanism Continues to Amaze with Recent DiscoveryX-ray tests have proven this out to a certain extent, although Evans's zodiac model discovery remains controversial. What is undeniable is this this ancient device remains a source of wonder. [Wired]
Geographical account by Strabo
Approximately 7 centuries after Homer, the Alexandrian geographer Strabo criticized Polybius on the geography of the Odyssey. Strabo proposed that Scheria and Ogygia were located in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
“ At another instance he [Polybius] suppresses statements. For Homer says also, 'Now after the ship had left the river-stream of Oceanus', and, 'In the island of Ogygia, where is the navel of the sea', where the daughter of Atlas lives; and again, regarding the Phaiakians, 'Far apart we live in the wash of the waves, the farthermost of men, and no other mortals are conversant with us.' All these clearly suggest that he composed them to take place in the Atlantic Ocean." ”
 Geographical account by Plutarch
Plutarch also gives an account of the location of Ogygia:
“ First I will tell you the author of the piece, if there is no objection, who begins after Homer’s fashion with, an isle Ogygian lies far out at sea, distant five days’ sail from Britain, going westwards, and three others equally distant from it, and from each other, are more opposite to the summer visits of the sun; in one of which the barbarians fable that Cronus is imprisoned by Zeus, whilst his son lies by his side, as though keeping guard over those islands and the sea, which they call ‘the Sea of Cronus. The great continent by which the great sea is surrounded on all sides, they say, lies less distant from the others, but about five thousand stadia from Ogygia, for one sailing in a rowing-galley; for the sea is difficult of passage and muddy through the great number of currents, and these currents issue out of the great land, and shoals are formed by them, and the sea becomes clogged and full of earth, by which it has the appearance of being solid.
Ogyges, Ogygus or Ogygos (Greek: Ὠγύγης or Ὤγυγος) is a primeval mythological ruler in ancient Greece, generally of Boeotia, but an alternative tradition makes him the first king of Attica. Though it's possible that the word is derived by the Greek Okeanos (Ωκεανός), the great river that surrounded the earth disc, the Greek word Ogygios (Ωγύγιος), meaning Ogygian, came to be synonymous with "primeval," "primal," or "from earliest ages."
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by baddmove
btw..does it have moving parts?
I had the same question but
looking closer at the pic, it
appears to me that it doesn't.
It appears solid to me but I may be
But if it did move on a wheel basis
then we might also have to change
history on when the wheel was invented.