Just got off the phone with President Obama .... He wants your opinion

reply to post by OverMan


Democracy as practiced by Americans has proved to be a huge failure time and again. A wise and benevolent monarch, whether king or queen, is better than the present system in which votes can be lost as they were in Florida many times past. Jesus Christ is still a King I believe and Christians everywhere would prefer His rule to any that they could elect. Simply because they know when to acknowledge that someone somewhere is smarter and wiser than they are.

reply to post by coolottie


Well, if the present administration was really trying to stop so much spending, first of all why did OBama's inauguration cost more than any other inauguration for any other president before him?...

I am sorry but this claim, which you might believe but I don't, that the Obama administration didn't want to over spend money is a big fat lie.

DURING Obama's administration, and not during Bush administration, we lost over $13 trillion dollars yet you want to claim this was done by the Bush administration?

Then there are other concerns, such as, why has Obama's appointee Janet Napolitano sent several documents to law enforcement agencies claiming most "regular Americans" are "rightwing extremists" if they fear communist regimes, which I was born and experienced alongside millions of Americans communism in the countries of our birth and we do not love communism, yet the Obama administration slapped us all in the face with Janet Napolitano's "Rightwing extremists" document...

Not to mention that she, and the higher ups in the Obama administration also see returning veterans, Americans who oppose firearm restrictions, which the right to own and bear arms is an unalienable right which is even written in the Constitution. Also Americans who oppose a One World Government, oppose lax immigration laws, and are upset at the lost of jobs from the U.S. to other countries , alongside other Americans, are labeled by the Obama administration as "rightwing extremists"... When in fact Janet Napolitano, and the entire DHS and Obama's administration are the "extremists" for coming up with such documents...

Janet Napolitano, and whoever else came up with the "rightwing extremist" document and others similar to it should have been FIRED if Obama was so worried for Americans, and these people should never be allowed to hold any position within the government. Yet Obama has not fired this woman and instead they just claimed these documents are necessary and were taken out of context.

Thompson added, “Janet Napolitano is lying to the American people when she says the Report is not based on ideology or political beliefs. In fact, her report would have the admiration of any current or past dictator in the way it targets political opponents.”

The Report specifically mentions the following political beliefs that law enforcement should use to determine whether someone is a “rightwing extremist”:

* Opposes restrictions on firearms

* Opposes lax immigration

* Opposes the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship and the expansion of social programs

* Opposes continuation of free trade agreements

* Opposes same-sex marriage

* Has paranoia of foreign regimes

* Fear of Communist regimes

* Opposes one world government

* Bemoans the decline of U.S. stature in the world.

* Upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India

* . . . and the list goes on

The Law Center is asking the court to declare that the DHS policy violates the First and Fifth Amendments, to permanently enjoin the Policy and its application to the plaintiffs’ speech and other activities, and to award the plaintiffs their reasonable attorney’s fees and costs for having to bring the lawsuit.
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my.auburnjournal.com...

Why is Obama, and his administration so set on FORCING upon the American people their "progressive" plans, such as forced community service?...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What about Obama's "indefinite detention" that even liberals raised an eyebrow and have stated is UnConstitutional?...



You can tell Obama that the United States of America should not be run like a socialist state, or even a socialist European state, that the UN should have NO POWER OVER THE U.S., and that he should read the U.S. Constitution, as well as the Declaration of Independence and take them to heart instead of trying to change them or get rid of them...

NOTHING should be FORCED upon Americans, not even healthcare...

BTW, also tell him to learn a bit about the country he is running... There are 50 states, not 60 like he has said at least a couple of times...



I probably forgot a few other things which I will add later.

reply to post by kosmicjack
Whats wrong with third parties? We third parties members have just as good if not better ideas as how to run this counrty. There should be at the very minum three parties in the United States Government inculing State level etc. The reason for this is simple. Just like there are three brances to our Government. They keep each other in check. So to could the three Political parties.

reply to post by LiteraryOneTwo


That's because you don't know anything about the U.S. The U.S. IS NOT a democracy... In a democracy 51% of the people can take away the rights of the other 49%, or the government can claim it can take the rights of the people by claiming they were chosen by a mayority... The U.S. is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse
I am in a whole lot more agreement than not. Hiring all these TSA, Homeland Security, Fusion Centers whatever they are, there are too many people in the government now. Show me one time when Homeland Security did anything to protect the American people from anything. Prison guards are not allow to patt down people like that, but they are going to do it to law abidding citizens. If everybody is going to endup working for the government then who is going to pay the salaries, the Chiness? The UN, France and I think Germany went into Lybia so why did we have to thow $ 1 billion down the drain to do that and now the government has to shut down. Even a single mother with 4 kids can manage a budget better that the government. You don't spend money you don't have.

reply to post by LiteraryOneTwo


I'm certainly with you on no donations to political campaigns, Literary- not even the $1 on the tax return form. Not one dime. It's obscene. Political campaigns have become a monster and they make complete saps out of way too many people. WHY are we spending our own money for them to party it up, wine and dine their corporate sponsors and hangers-on, and then they scroo us to the wall when they get into office? It happens Every. time.

There's no way that any of them can pretend that they "don't know" or do care what people want. They've made that abundantly clear for decades now. I'm really offended that anyone would have the nerve to ask us to play along.
What I don't understand is why we- somebody! haven't literally run the bums out.
If only people would take to the streets one more time for these jokers and just yell No No No over and over until they have no choice but to get the message.

Please take just a few minutes to listen to this.

Oh, and one more thing.

Tell Obama that if he really wants to save the Republic that he should vote and support Ron Paul.

reply to post by coolottie


Wow what a totally outdated tactic. Run from the direct challenge to your "respect each other," nonsenical statement in light of this threads opening history... you allowed someone who was on the same phone call as you to disrepect half the country as disgusting or worse... You ingore that hateful comment and you condone it by allowing that hateful statement to go unchallenged... and using an outdated tactic... now you want to turn this on me. That outdated nonsense only works on children, in the adult world we see right past that BS...

BTW, my family lost people fighting for our country in World War 2, Korea and Vietnam. Second, When you start a grownup conversation you are going to hear things you don't like, now you can attempt to played the out dated tactic of attacking a word in order to hide behind your own hypocrisy, or you can act like a grownup and stand up and be forthright in your statements, if you want your stated beliefs to be believed. So far, you obviously only want to hear from those who agree with you and the President, that is your agenda... while at the same time your job is to twist anyone’s words who is against the President as extreme, hateful, racist, or whatever the hell the talking points are that have been passed down from on high. ATS pays very close attention to the games coming out of, and/or played daily by and in Washington. You come off as if your family serving in the military somehow gives you the unchecked authority to say whatever you want, when half my family has retired from the Military, including my dad. Not to mention all I've done to help protect the state of Israel... So grabbing for that gear with this poster will simply grind into nothing and bring that tactic to a complete stop… because I aint dressing down their hypocritical statements, or the hateful statements they allowed from others... rather I am addressing the hateful statement you allowed to go unchecked, while feigning indifference to my own. Simply because I decided to use a tactic to show just how disgusting that persons hateful statement was.

Not to mention, three times that I can remember, the Democratic Party has called Tea Partiers Nazi's, homosexual haters, black haters, mexican haters and the list goes on and on... And now we want to starve old people again. Yet you claim you want to have an open and honest conversation, if that was true you would take this opportunity to condemn that persons hateful statements, yet twice now you have by proxy chosen to agree with his statements and simply condemn mine. Which was a purposeful calculated decision to present that word inside this thread.

I know the political verbiage game very well, yet when I here GOP are disgusting and those who follow them are worse, I must challenge not only that statement... but an OP who now pretends we should have civility, while not condemning a statement made by a person you shared a phone conversation with. You see I'm not your typical Conservative Constitution Loving American... I believe if attacked you must attack back until the other side either relents, apologizes or runs away. So don't think for one minute I'm going to allow you to turn this on me, while you allowed that other poster to call all GOP and their supporters disgusting or worse. IF you are going to allow him to say such hateful words, then I guess if you're going to have an adultish style open discussion, then you must allow for someone else to call the opposite side of the GOP and their followers evil, while suggesting a solution on how to make it all go away. I have already publicly stated in my last post I honestly don't believe in such nonsense, but it was done to show just how extreme the rhetoric on the other side was. What you haven't done is condemn that statement, and until you do, the question still remains, how can you expect either side to treat each other with respect?

Are you going to condemn that persons statement? If not, and after all the fuss you've made over my post which was a direct response to that persons hateful and totally disgusting post... then I am left with no choice but to believe you agree with that person, and this thread was created for nothing more then to push your agenda, and your call for an open discussion was totally and completely fake.

Will you now condemn the statement that all GOP are disgusting and their followers are worse? Do you condemn that statement?

--Charles Marcello

What I want Obama to know, is I don't want to be forced to pay into a health care system that I rarely use. I only use the mainstream system for emergency situations. And, since I don't look to the mainstream for advice on health, forced insurance is of little help to me. It would be a waste of money. Now, if I were to pay into a common good fund, to help those who have fallen through the cracks, or for some reason truly need constant care, then yeah, I don't mind giving when I can to help my fellow man. As it is, insurance pays for very little I use, like my vitamins and nutritional supplements, and I don't use pharmaceutical drugs, so I'm simply not that interested in health insurance.

I just want the constitution adhered to, to insure the freedoms of every man, woman and child in this country.

And, stop wasting money we don't have.

(by the way, I wasn't a Bush supporter either. I want sanity, and I want survival oriented decisions.)

Troy

OK, why don't you ask him when he is going to stop blaming Bush for what Clinton did. Clinton open the door. I was a democrat. I'm not stupid. Everything that escalated under the Bush Admin, was started under Clinton. Dems have walked away from everything for the last 50 years, blame the replub. Also, ask him how it feels to lead the USA into the NWO as commander and chief of the NWO' military. Ask him if he has his suite all picked out for his wife, her mother, and his kids in the 300,000 sq ft. bunker, while the hard ass working AMERICANS that built this country die. F++k OBAMA and the WHOLE US GOVERNMENT. GOD, that's what they think they are. Government Of Democracy. G-overnment O-f D-emocracy. NWO' suckers. Beast number two. Raise from the ocean, Only the USA has a SS#, can't work without it, can't work don't have money, can't buy food. 600202026, For those who don't get it. Are these words familiar. Six hundred, three score and six.

Originally posted by 5StarOracle
Im not from the US, but if he has to ask for advice then he does not deserve to be your leader. Tell him he knows dam well whats wrong, tell him its time he did something about it.

Tell him its time for a change you can BELIEVE in!!!

Too bad he's not even taking advice from his own advisors.

He gets his advice straight from the Shadow govt, Soros, Trumka, Rothschilds, Brzezinski

Tell him to drop the marxist redistribution schemes, the socialization of health care, auto industry, and the financial sector, big govt, cronyism, hiring of communist sympathisers and sexual deviants as czars, race and class warfare. Did I forget anything? Oh yah, I nearly forgot, tell him to stop hobnobbing with petty dictators and stop enabling radical revolutionaries destined to bring world socialism to every Islamic country. Tell him to bring our soldiers home, and to stop trying to be a "World Citizen" and begin being the leader of our Sovereign America. Tell him to honor the Constitution instead of trashing it. Tell him to stop apologizing and stop bowing to foreign dignitaries and start respecting American citizens.Please tell him to stop letting DHS terrorize travelers at the airport and subjecting children and pregnant women to deviant and invasive groping, and oh yah those horrid naked body scanners.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by LiteraryOneTwo

 

That's because you don't know anything about the U.S. The U.S. IS NOT a democracy... In a democracy 51% of the people can take away the rights of the other 49%, or the government can claim it can take the rights of the people by claiming they were chosen by a mayority... The U.S. is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

edit on 7-4-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

As much as I agree with your statement, you do know most Americans have no idea what a Republic style governance is, right? In a Republic US Congressmen/women would NOT vote along party lines, they would vote strictly towards the will of the people in their district/state. So for all for all the fluff of being right, the United States has been hijacked into believing we are a democracy… and mob rule is just fine on Capital Hill… unless and until that mob is the electorate, then one judge can throw the Constitution and the will of the American people on its ear, because only when it can be used to silence the will of the people, then and only then are we a Republic. For all intense and purposes the United States has become a democracy, and until the people are deprogrammed to learn the difference between what we have and what our founding fathers actually wanted, our constitution will continue to be ignored and destroyed.

--Charles Marcello

What I think is Obama should cut major bonuses to 454 people that are making decisions for us all, if they don't like it just freakne fire them and hire new people, I also think that our army should cut down by size drastically, we already have nukes + beyond bombs, I don't think anyone wants to attack us and see the world get destroyed. I also think that alot of people that are getting goverment assistants like warefare food stamps etc, reevaluated, if anything help them get jobs.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Nice! I second your post!

Originally posted by littlebunny

As much as I agree with your statement, you do know most Americans have no idea what a Republic style governance is, right? In a Republic US Congressmen/women would NOT vote along party lines, they would vote strictly towards the will of the people in their district/state. So for all for all the fluff of being right, the United States has been hijacked into believing we are a democracy… and mob rule is just fine on Capital Hill… unless and until that mob is the electorate, then one judge can throw the Constitution and the will of the American people on its ear, because only when it can be used to silence the will of the people, then and only then are we a Republic. For all intense and purposes the United States has become a democracy, and until the people are deprogrammed to learn the difference between what we have and what our founding fathers actually wanted, our constitution will continue to be ignored and destroyed.

--Charles Marcello

You are right, and I have stated this very same thing many times before. Americans have been brainwashed into believing the Republic of the United States is a democracy, and you can hear the media, from all sides, and politicians claim it is a democracy when it is not.

The Feds, and the elites have control over the U.S. unfortunately, and Obama is one of their lackeys who has been working on destroying the Republic from within.

There are very few people in government who really want to save the Republic and help Americans, and Obama and his administration are not part of these people.

a question for Obama:

Why is George Soros not in prison
for sedition against the US ???

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Do I understand this right? Obama said: "go out among the people of America, and get their concerns, questions and complaints"? I'd rather believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny then believing that!

reply to post by coolottie


Next time you talk to him tell him beezzer said hi.