Originally posted by Rhebefree
I'm hardly going to go out of y way to try find out your real name and lodge and whatnot, that would be inappropriate and very creepy
Not what I meant. If the international banking elite are Masons, it is their
records I expect someone to go after.
I never thought of it that way.... Even so if it werent for his ravings I would never had learned about the monetary system and how it works
and 9/11 (even tho Im not American) and other various conspiracies so I gotta give him credit for what he does
I would classify 9/11 conspiracy theories as among these red herrings.
Yeah but atleast they, like me, have the building blocks to jump start further research
I rarely see that happening, though. Anyone who does do an unbiased job researching his inane rants comes away so disillusioned with the entire thing
that they're worse off than before when it comes to effecting change.
Are you a supervisor guy? Or is that classified info?
Fine. I'll concede the theoretical possibility that there might
be an organizational link. Once again, however, could and might are
meaningless in the sense you'd have to use them in this instance.
enlighten me, go on you know you want to!
One of the site's favorite sources on Freemasonry is Bill Schnoebelen, and it takes the Taxil hoax for literal truth. Google those two.
Officially, yes. Theologically...it's complicated.
Yes but which money men? See I thought masons were the money men!!
They have no allegiance but to themselves, and to each other only as necessary.
Yea but hardly anything remains true to its original gender based definitions anymore, guys can be stay at home mums
Actually, this one example has been
Fraternities should get with the times man, broaden their horizens, "evolve" ideas or whatever
Except for platitudes like this, I've never seen anyone give an actual benefit of changing the way things are. Single-sex social gatherings have
taken place since the dawn of man, in nearly every culture. I don't think we evolved that way just because.
Not neccesarily, we could surprise you
I grew up on a farm, and I know exactly how clueless people really are about farming.
besides with big daddy corp. out of the way
The corporations do terrible things. They're also responsible for the people on the planet not living on arable land (the majority) not starving to
earth could heal and go back to its natural rythms and humanity would be free to revert back to their roots..... Sigh, please dont burst my
bubble, its all I have left!!
I don't want to burst it, just shrink it a little. There's plenty of room for reform, particularly in food. If we regulated our food markets
consistently and without special interests clogging up the works, we could feed another five billion people on the yield we're getting now, and make
pretty good dents in poverty too.
Oh so you do accept low income workers too?
Ideally, yes. Masonic culture varies from country to country; in America it's largely the lower middle class (or at least was traditionally) with a
few upper-class outliers. In countries more recently separated from the Crown and in Continental Europe, the dynamic swings a little more
I dont know subliminal messages? Spell casting? I dont know, use your imagination!!
Our Junior Warden makes pretty good cookies...
? I think your missing some words there, but I see what you are saying,
It was a joke. Efficiency is not something Masons are known for.
but dont you have pre-reqs?
Yes, but they're more to do with character traits, which we try to verify with objectively traits (belief in a Supreme Being, no felonies, etc.) and
personal interviews with a committee.
Well if you had lots of money and resources
and wanted to bring about a "forced" evolution and a new world where only men who believed in service to a "god" could run the
Actually, America seems to have come to that opinion more and more as our influence has dwindled.
true I guess, I tend to prefer the absurd and forget sometimes that most people dont share this leaning
I have the opposite problem: I far too often see my perceptions
as far more than just that.
possibly why I like this site so much, theres more people like me here than in my reality
I like that too.
Not the tendancy to form groups, throwing money at a problem that is caused by money or rather the pursuit of it
I see your point here. Masonic charities, like all charities, have no immunity to abuses of the public trust inherent in them. However, it's the
least bad option.
When? When have we been free to live in this way, properly
There's the rub. Human nature always
I cannot think of a time when western society wasnt obsessed with the accumilation of wealth
Eastern society hasn't fared much better.
Fast cars, grocery stores, air conditioning?
I live in Florida. You shut your mouth about air conditioning.
Not to mention disease, pollution
Both previously present (although pollution wasn't the mega-behemoth it is today).
mutated food that leads to all kinds of imbalances within the human and ecological systems and on and on and on.....
Here's another red herring. Genetically-modified food is dangerous in its politics, not its science.
Scuse me but I think its time for the dreamers to emerge, the idealists, the non-joiners, those who fantasise about a world where every humans
potential is free to take root and grow uninhibited by colour or rank or gender or social obligation, to rise up and stop allowing "reality" to
shape this world, Realists have had their turn. Its our turn now.
The problem is that dreamers and realists look on each other with enmity. A favorite dreamer of mine put it this way about realists:
We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. --George Orwell
You'll have to forgive his bellicosity; he saw a lot of war, and his dreams were often of the cautionary sort. Still, though, it kind of illustrates
my point: neither pure ambition nor pure realism can run the world. To put it in Masonic terms, you need architects: men who both understand how to
keep a building up and that it needs adornment.
"I see the strongest and the smartest men who have ever lived,".... "and these men are pumping gas and waiting tables"
The first thing you learn when studying fine arts (and I did) is the myth in this statement. The best artists I met in my years in college (I studied
screenwriting) also turned out to be the most successful in the "real world" because the real common denominator in both was focus and drive.
"You have a class of young strong men and women, and they want to give their lives to something. Advertising has these people chasing cars and
clothes they dont need. Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they really dont need"
I'm a proud member of the Less Revolution, as I call it. Just being happy with what you have and only buying what you need would get us off the
roller coaster financially; it all starts when people want more than that.