Has not much to say - just wanted to send you all my love, respect and appreciation.
I relate to so many of your posts, and I just realize we are in the midge of something amazing, something truly amazing beyond borders.
Actually it makes me shake all over, when I realize how amazing this is!!!!!
Thankyou!!!!!
I recommend listening to youtube: innervoice222 its time (a)-(j)(iv)
Love and respect
PS my mother is still getting better!!!!
.....Next level......, page 5
We are brothers. reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 01:54 PM by Brianegan
reply to post by laffoe
Did you truley believe that the day wouldnt come. I find that hard to believe with so much hope in this world we see.
The time has come and it is happening NOW.
Did you truley believe that the day wouldnt come. I find that hard to believe with so much hope in this world we see.
The time has come and it is happening NOW.
reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 02:03 PM by EL1A5
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by Brianegan
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
INDEEDreply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 02:16 PM by thesoundofbass
reply to post by Brianegan
no never and i never believed in them as well now it wont shut off my mind is seeing 2d in a 3d world as soon as i see symbols i was looking at google earth and i saw the tree of life and it was like a switch had turned on with loads of information in just symbols and i saw a sphere that seemed to be providing the information in my vision along with lots of maps this made me very weak after these insights but this information is coming in audio, video,and images i pride myself on being a very sane person this is very concerning.....
no never and i never believed in them as well now it wont shut off my mind is seeing 2d in a 3d world as soon as i see symbols i was looking at google earth and i saw the tree of life and it was like a switch had turned on with loads of information in just symbols and i saw a sphere that seemed to be providing the information in my vision along with lots of maps this made me very weak after these insights but this information is coming in audio, video,and images i pride myself on being a very sane person this is very concerning.....
reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 02:21 PM by Brianegan
Originally posted by thesoundofbass
reply to post by Brianegan
no never and i never believed in them as well now it wont shut off my mind is seeing 2d in a 3d world as soon as i see symbols i was looking at google earth and i saw the tree of life and it was like a switch had turned on with loads of information in just symbols and i saw a sphere that seemed to be providing the information in my vision along with lots of maps this made me very weak after these insights but this information is coming in audio, video,and images i pride myself on being a very sane person this is very concerning.....
May I request that as they come in for you to either post them in here or begin a thread and let us know when it is updated.
Seers are few.
reply posted on 7-4-2011 @ 07:59 PM by B.Morrison
Originally posted by Brianegan
There you are I see you now. You were hiding from me.
it's a dance... .
only meant that if one was in school learning lesson in other words one would be getting groomed. Usually I am speaking about a positive thing that can be misrepresented. I do understand but I also stand by my words....
I accept & respect that.
I don't like the words 'school' or 'groomed' but I do really really like the word 'ineffable' and until I recently learnt the word, I didn't have one to explain many things.
I think expanding vocabulary many times is key to communicating further depths of understanding.
One might gain an ever-deepening understanding but not be able to communicate it to anyone, self included.
I am very carefully calculated in my movements and an expansion is possible and does happen but not that easy.
never is it would seem; while we're 'trying' anyway, it usually seems surrendering is a quicker option but while I know you say there are no wrongs; lets put it another way - sometimes that route asks for too much too quickly. Its easy to philosophise though.
Logically if I would need to alter my views to accept what you say then in turn that is the definition of off topic.....I was pointing out the humor in it is all.
Well you didn't say anything that wasn't true, and I can see the humour now, but when I consciously act to learn more of these 'things' its usually a hit & miss affair, can't dilly dally with one thing for too long, if it clicks it clicks sooner than later. Also I think it's comical to talk of off or on topic when we can't be certain what exactly we're talking about anyway by very nature of the topic..whatever it is
Dont give up on me already
I didn't but ok
Hows this then, where are your getting you information?
for me its dreams & vague memories & a couple of unexplainable moments; which pertain to conversations & encounters had that can't be explained very well with my sparse recollection & the words I know.
P.L.U.R.I
-B.M
P.S) perhaps this whole thing equates to just another banana... I don't mean to rock the boat but I think protoplasmic travellers last post made a lot of sense and I will also say this; I think that things are happening in this year now that we've been waiting for a long time & we'd best pay attention & hold fast to clarity, all of us. It's just a feeling I've had lately.
edit on 06/03/2011 by B.Morrison because: (no reason given)
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 12:44 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Brianegan
So in other words you have no explanation for the questionable use of such words as 'grooming' and 'training' and if one is not likely to become an acolyte it best to avoid those hard questions, and to simply insinuate that someone is being negative for some nefarious purpose, by saying something as ambiguous and vague as the above statement.
......shh they might hear you......Please try to be aware of what type of energy you are sending out.
So in other words you have no explanation for the questionable use of such words as 'grooming' and 'training' and if one is not likely to become an acolyte it best to avoid those hard questions, and to simply insinuate that someone is being negative for some nefarious purpose, by saying something as ambiguous and vague as the above statement.
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:09 AM by GypsK
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Brianegan
......shh they might hear you......Please try to be aware of what type of energy you are sending out.
So in other words you have no explanation for the questionable use of such words as 'grooming' and 'training' and if one is not likely to become an acolyte it best to avoid those hard questions, and to simply insinuate that someone is being negative for some nefarious purpose, by saying something as ambiguous and vague as the above statement.
Do you mind I offer my take on this one?
Think about how your life was before you knew this website, or even knew anything about the presented topics here. Think about how your view on the world was back then.
Why did you think that way?
Who taught you to think that way?
Why does the majority of people still think that way?
Maybe because they (we) all where trained and groomed to act and believe a certain way? It's the way of humanity. maybe...
His statement to you is not vague at all.. it's a hint.
Do you like exploring truth? Keep the hint in mind then. Just at least give it a second thought before dismissing it as a negative statement, there's no harm in that
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 01:52 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GypsK
People are prone to make a lot of assumptions, sometimes very incorrect ones.
In 1976 at the age of 13 when the state was in fact trying to brainwash me and train me and groom me, I happened to be one of the very few people to stand right up and accuse it of such and to not sit back down and roll over.
I am not going to get in to the many battles or sacrifices I made in order to do that.
In part because those battles and sacrifices have not ended and likely will not as long as I inhabit this dimension and realm.
Banished from school at the age of 14 by mutual agreement between the State and my Parents, neither having any hope at being able to effect my thinking and gain control over me, after both had exhausted every remedy at their disposal only to find my resolve always greater than theirs, I have walked my own path and followed the beat of my own drum and fought the government every step of the way, the Powers that Be on occassion, and even some things most people would have trouble believing exist.
Is Brian going to help train and groom me for something?
Surely you jest!
Those are fighting words, those are the words of a would be Master looking for a would be slave.
Brian has sought to establish a sort of primacy that I for one don't believe he has enough depth to him yet to wear the mantle of.
He might want to look at this as a learning experience and an opportunity to grow.
Bottom line is enlightment can't be taught, can't be groomed, can't be trained, it can only be achieved through observation, awareness of all that exists around you, and self realization.
If it's not natural, if it doesn't occur naturally, then it's not natural, it's instilled, instilled through grooming and training and who ever is doing the grooming and training is always looking for one thing and that's people to listen to them, obey them, and praise them, and follow them.
It's one thing to share experiences with people, it's another to offer them advice you consider helpful, it's another thing too, to say, you know I am not sure about this but I think...or maybe, or I wonder...
When you start dishing out absolutes though you really ought to be absolutely sure what you are saying is correct.
People are prone to make a lot of assumptions, sometimes very incorrect ones.
In 1976 at the age of 13 when the state was in fact trying to brainwash me and train me and groom me, I happened to be one of the very few people to stand right up and accuse it of such and to not sit back down and roll over.
I am not going to get in to the many battles or sacrifices I made in order to do that.
In part because those battles and sacrifices have not ended and likely will not as long as I inhabit this dimension and realm.
Banished from school at the age of 14 by mutual agreement between the State and my Parents, neither having any hope at being able to effect my thinking and gain control over me, after both had exhausted every remedy at their disposal only to find my resolve always greater than theirs, I have walked my own path and followed the beat of my own drum and fought the government every step of the way, the Powers that Be on occassion, and even some things most people would have trouble believing exist.
Is Brian going to help train and groom me for something?
Surely you jest!
Those are fighting words, those are the words of a would be Master looking for a would be slave.
Brian has sought to establish a sort of primacy that I for one don't believe he has enough depth to him yet to wear the mantle of.
He might want to look at this as a learning experience and an opportunity to grow.
Bottom line is enlightment can't be taught, can't be groomed, can't be trained, it can only be achieved through observation, awareness of all that exists around you, and self realization.
If it's not natural, if it doesn't occur naturally, then it's not natural, it's instilled, instilled through grooming and training and who ever is doing the grooming and training is always looking for one thing and that's people to listen to them, obey them, and praise them, and follow them.
It's one thing to share experiences with people, it's another to offer them advice you consider helpful, it's another thing too, to say, you know I am not sure about this but I think...or maybe, or I wonder...
When you start dishing out absolutes though you really ought to be absolutely sure what you are saying is correct.
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 02:50 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GypsK
I defended Brian on the front page when it came to those not even wanting to consider what he has to say.
However I did consider what he has to say, knowing more than a 'bit' regarding the things he is talking about.
Some things caused concern and I brought those up and they weren't answered to my satisfaction, from there it's gone down hill further.
It's about what 'rings true' and what doesn't.
I have some concerns they haven't been addressed well.
That's on Brian not on me.
It's great that you wan't to 'defend' him, and offer me 'advice' but trust me when I say the questions could have been answered directly and well by someone claiming to have the knowledge that Brian does.
Brian didn't have empathy for my concerns, Brian had concern simply about Brian and how my questions might effect Brian.
I am by the way someone many are inclined to consider when he decides to share something.
It's easy to preach to the choir, it's winning over the critical minds where the challenge lies.
To do that your message must be clear, concise, well thought out and presented and you had better be able to honestly address questions, when honest questions have been put to you.
Brians failures aren't my own, please stop suggesting that they are.
Thanks.
I defended Brian on the front page when it came to those not even wanting to consider what he has to say.
However I did consider what he has to say, knowing more than a 'bit' regarding the things he is talking about.
Some things caused concern and I brought those up and they weren't answered to my satisfaction, from there it's gone down hill further.
It's about what 'rings true' and what doesn't.
I have some concerns they haven't been addressed well.
That's on Brian not on me.
It's great that you wan't to 'defend' him, and offer me 'advice' but trust me when I say the questions could have been answered directly and well by someone claiming to have the knowledge that Brian does.
Brian didn't have empathy for my concerns, Brian had concern simply about Brian and how my questions might effect Brian.
I am by the way someone many are inclined to consider when he decides to share something.
It's easy to preach to the choir, it's winning over the critical minds where the challenge lies.
To do that your message must be clear, concise, well thought out and presented and you had better be able to honestly address questions, when honest questions have been put to you.
Brians failures aren't my own, please stop suggesting that they are.
Thanks.
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 03:04 AM by GypsK
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GypsK
It's great that you wan't to 'defend' him, and offer me 'advice' but trust me when I say the questions could have been answered directly and well by someone claiming to have the knowledge that Brian does.
...
Brians failures aren't my own, please stop suggesting that they are.
wow you have totally misinterpreted my post to you.
I'm not defending anyone, I'm simply stating my Personal feelings towards the content of his threads.
Haven't I just said that we all walk our path our own way? By this I am simply defending myself and my Freedom to at least consider the information, not you no'r Brian. It also meant that by aknowledging that, I respect your opinion of the whole matter.
Don't look for things in my posts that aren't there!
where on earth did I suggest that his failures are yours as well? Where are you reading that in my post?
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 03:15 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GypsK
This is pretty much where.
Do I fear what Brian is putting in my head? Should I be 'silent' in the face of something that concerns me? Should in the course of a debate or exchange I accept someone putting me off with a quick deflection to attempt to put their inability to answer a question honestly and intelligently back on to me?
Frankly these are all things between the Original Poster and I, It is not that I am disinterested in what you 'feel' regarding the presented ideas, rather I am much more interested in the presenter being able to fully complete his thoughts and explain them in concise rational ways.
You are in essence attempting to do what Brian was afraid to do, in his failure to fully explain himself.
If we were a couple Christians sitting around arguing over an interpretation of the Bible that would be one thing, however Brian is neither dead, nor incapable of answering for himself.
Why not just patiently wait to see if Brian can redeem himself.
Believe me when I say he is the only one who can.
Thanks.
But I personally don't feel like there is a lot of grooming going on in the presented ideas. That said, if you think you are observing a 'wannabe goeroe' and you fear what he might be putting into your head by only listening, then don't listen.
This is pretty much where.
Do I fear what Brian is putting in my head? Should I be 'silent' in the face of something that concerns me? Should in the course of a debate or exchange I accept someone putting me off with a quick deflection to attempt to put their inability to answer a question honestly and intelligently back on to me?
Frankly these are all things between the Original Poster and I, It is not that I am disinterested in what you 'feel' regarding the presented ideas, rather I am much more interested in the presenter being able to fully complete his thoughts and explain them in concise rational ways.
You are in essence attempting to do what Brian was afraid to do, in his failure to fully explain himself.
If we were a couple Christians sitting around arguing over an interpretation of the Bible that would be one thing, however Brian is neither dead, nor incapable of answering for himself.
Why not just patiently wait to see if Brian can redeem himself.
Believe me when I say he is the only one who can.
Thanks.
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 09:40 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by GypsK
It is said "If you want to upgrade the quality of your life you must first upgrade the quality of your questions".
This means realizing when you have been given an incomplete, partial or other non-informative answer and sticking with that question, rephrasing it when necessary until you actually get a real answer.
Communication is key to healthy relationships of all kinds, and some might argue more than anything that what this planet lacks is good communication between the leaders and the people.
A story, pitch, or proposal is in fact only as good as the person telling it, if they don't share it at all, well it can't effect anyone, if they share it but communicate it poorly it could never be as effective as sharing it and communicating it well.
If you are the one listening to that, only you know whether it's been communicated well, only you know if your questions have been fully answered.
Is the world well served when a press secretary to an important politician can give partial and incomplete answers to soft ball reporters who then virtually leave us in the dark while aiding a propganda machine?
Or would it be better off for instance if one of the reporters said "No Mr. Secretary my paper or channel won't report that answer, because it doesn't answer the question which is once again ...."
Yes I tend to insist on real answers to my real questions and tend to know when those answers have not touched on the main concerns the question was posed to seek additional clarification on.
I really am asking the Original Poster for a reason, it's a valid reason, and that is all part of a discussion.
No need to make that 'all about you'.
It is said "If you want to upgrade the quality of your life you must first upgrade the quality of your questions".
This means realizing when you have been given an incomplete, partial or other non-informative answer and sticking with that question, rephrasing it when necessary until you actually get a real answer.
Communication is key to healthy relationships of all kinds, and some might argue more than anything that what this planet lacks is good communication between the leaders and the people.
A story, pitch, or proposal is in fact only as good as the person telling it, if they don't share it at all, well it can't effect anyone, if they share it but communicate it poorly it could never be as effective as sharing it and communicating it well.
If you are the one listening to that, only you know whether it's been communicated well, only you know if your questions have been fully answered.
Is the world well served when a press secretary to an important politician can give partial and incomplete answers to soft ball reporters who then virtually leave us in the dark while aiding a propganda machine?
Or would it be better off for instance if one of the reporters said "No Mr. Secretary my paper or channel won't report that answer, because it doesn't answer the question which is once again ...."
Yes I tend to insist on real answers to my real questions and tend to know when those answers have not touched on the main concerns the question was posed to seek additional clarification on.
I really am asking the Original Poster for a reason, it's a valid reason, and that is all part of a discussion.
No need to make that 'all about you'.
reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 11:23 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by laffoe
I am not looking for endorsements or pledges of allegiance my friend, rather instead some real answers to some real questions.
Hero worship and those thinking with the heart, and the language of emotion really is not an evolution of any kind but the same revolving door mankind has been cycling through again and again to disaster after disaster war after war from the dawn of recorded history.
A new system built on the same old constructs is in fact not an exploration into the unknown at all, except for those who don't know history and human nature well at all who are more prone to think with their heart instead of their mind.
It is simply more of the same old, same old.
I am concerned to see this being espoused by someone claiming to have superior insight, wisdom and experience.
Hence the questions put to them, honest and direct answers expected of them.
Keep in mind what is unknown to you might be well or entirely known by me as well as others.
Thanks.
I am not looking for endorsements or pledges of allegiance my friend, rather instead some real answers to some real questions.
Hero worship and those thinking with the heart, and the language of emotion really is not an evolution of any kind but the same revolving door mankind has been cycling through again and again to disaster after disaster war after war from the dawn of recorded history.
A new system built on the same old constructs is in fact not an exploration into the unknown at all, except for those who don't know history and human nature well at all who are more prone to think with their heart instead of their mind.
It is simply more of the same old, same old.
I am concerned to see this being espoused by someone claiming to have superior insight, wisdom and experience.
Hence the questions put to them, honest and direct answers expected of them.
Keep in mind what is unknown to you might be well or entirely known by me as well as others.
Thanks.
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