Originally posted by Expat888
Hmm.. Interesting thread.. The mindsets exhibited here show exactly why western society is collapsing .. Rather than uniting and helping each other
its devil take all and human life holds no value..
And a stable society cannot be built on such foundation..
Actually I think you have it backwards...It is our “compassion for our fellow man” that has created the untenable financial/resource shortages and
pending collapse. Time to stop this nonsense!
The key to sustainable living is letting the world reach it’s natural equilibrium between the local population and the environment absent the
intervention and machinations of governments or groups to “engineer” or “regulate” balance.
We have made the issues worse IMO when it comes to resource competition by providing “aid” to struggling nations and people in the name of
“good” or “humanity”. It does little good to send food aid to Haiti or other places in fact it is even worse in the case of individuals
because for the majority rather than the temporary helping hand it becomes a lifestyle. How many generations of Haitians have lived off of foreign
aid? Individuals that grow up on welfare and with handouts tend to reproduce early and create yet more offspring to feed the cycle. As for racial
advantage or affirmative action; how many generations have milked it with no change (Perhaps even making the situation worse statistically as far as
success goes if you consider crime, employment, welfare, out of wedlock births and incarceration rates as a measure of it!) Aren’t we seeing the
I am not a religious person but the “give a man a fish thing” rings so true…
I have seen first-hand countries in which the people have become dependent on aid and assistance from foreign governments. All the aid has done is
enable the people to have procreated way past the point of providing for themselves in their region.
I honestly could care less if children are starving in Africa as it is not my responsibility to feed them just like it is not for some third party be
it an individual or government to limit my access to resources or take my wealth to do so. If I want to give to a charity, I will give to one that
solves problems not creates more of them. I am all for helping the helpless; however, helping the lazy and clueless is something else altogether.
If we did not sustain these populations (and individuals) with aid and just let nature take its course like I do here on the farm with livestock when
I don’t have enough fodder the problem would never have surfaced in the first place.
A struggling and hungry heard in nature cannot reproduce quickly. It may sound harsh and cruel and unfair but life is all of those things.
The key to the issue of resource scarcity (that and some quest for “equality” are the root of all our issues) is the opposite of intervention IMO
it is the absence of it so people will have to suffer the consequences of their poor choices. Perhaps if people had to suffer watching their offspring
die horribly they would no longer produce more than they can sustain.
We all know where babies come from and to create more than one can provide for with his/her own access to resources is the most selfish and inhumane
act I can fathom. If one does not have enough resources to satisfy their own needs then they need to be, either smart enough, driven enough or violent
enough (likely all three) to procure them or one will die – it’s fairly simple.
That applies to the individual, a family group, a village, a city, nation or the world itself. We (all of those groups) are not created equal and to
force it through some arbitrary desire for the common good is actually a horrible force for evolution of the species.
Not all people (or groups of people) are as intelligent, physically gifted or driven to excel. If we were there would be no words for excellence –
there can be only one valedictorian, one winner etc. Our society is engineering competition out of our young…
Likewise not all people are graced with a favorable geography at birth – some places are harsh and should have low populations. Yet, we provide aid
and in so doing make life more bearable and then comes procreation to add to the cycle.
Compassion is good, charity is nice but to do it to the point we are not only sustaining and indefinitely supporting the weak, stupid and the lazy we
are doing so without imposing any sort of restrictions. Why should people on welfare/public support be able to reproduce and not only that be
rewarded for it with more money at the expense of the others?
We have taken the role of the indulgent and understanding parent who mitigates on a regular basis the poor decisions of our children without the
opposite and equally important role of the rule/boundary setting parent who imposes limits on children who demonstrate the inability to solve their
own problems. A family with only the former would soon be bankrupt both morally and financially.
Supporting the weak and lazy at the expense of the driven and strong is antithetical to nature and why we are in the current predicament.
Nature is a powerful force and once we reach the tipping point the earth will cull the human population to the correct size (this is likely closer
than we think)– in the interim some will thrive some will wither and suffer…its simply nature.
Again, many think me cruel for this view; however, in the end it is nature in action and there is in my opinion nothing more perfect than nature and
its own ability to manage and regulate its resources.
In the end I deal with what I can affect, which in my case is the 40 acres I live on and the newly acquired 100 that I will pay for in the fall after
I sell my fat feeders to the market.
Is that more than I "need"? Most probably, but that is not for others to decide…
Like Fararcher stated this country was formed by people driven to succeed not by propping up the stupid lazy and incompetent.
We cannot afford to continue down this road!