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Norwegian Party Proposes to Ban Islam

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posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 02:24 PM
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For the fist time, a political party call for banning religion. Islam isn't religion. It's a theoratic ideology that's as dangerous as Nazism. Article

Right-wing politicians want to ban Islam

Central members of Kristiansand Progress party claims Hitler’s «Mein Kampf» and the Koran are one of the same, and they want Islam banned in Norway.

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(EPA/Scanpix)According to the Norwegian paper Dagbladet, central figures in Kristiansand Progress party (Frp) wants to ban Islam in Norway.

«We are not the only ones demanding this ban,» said Halvor Hulaas, chairperson in Krstiansand Frp to the paper. «This is an opinion that is well established in Scandinavian countries. We are now importing people with a religion that is practiced in the same way it was practiced when it was established in year 600. The freedom we have in Norway may be taken away from us if we do not start to have some demands to these immigrants.»

Karina Udnæs, deputy leader of the Progress party’s city council group in Kristiansand is pushing it even further.

«It is about high time Norway and Europe make the ideology Islam and the practice of this, illegal and punishable in the same way as Nazism,» Udnæs said. «The prophet Muhammad urged them to kill everyone infidel.»

«Udnæs’ comparison of Nazism and Islam is supported by many in Frp,» Hulaas said. «The religion as it is practiced is a threat against our social system and way of life.»

He said that Kristiansand now lives under the threat of getting a large mosque in town.

«Of course, we are aware of what these mosques are used for,» Hulaas said.


This is the true face of Islam





posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:14 PM
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Whoa!!!!!I see it this way just because US have "freedom of religion" does not means that the rest of the world have to have it too.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:16 PM
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im movin to norway....who else has a capitol located on a fjord?



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by salam
This is the true face of Islam




You are very sad if you believe a single man holding a poster is the meaning of Islam.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:02 PM
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I guess there are more than single man in the picture. And it's in UK. Here is another picture to show how peaceful Islam is.





Another quotation to show intention of Islam

"Islam must rule the world and until Islam does rule the world we will continue to sacrifice our lives," Al-Badr spokesman Mustaq Aksari,- CNN September 19,2001"



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by salam
For the fist time, a political party call for banning religion. Islam isn't religion. It's a theoratic ideology that's as dangerous as Nazism. Article

Right-wing politicians want to ban Islam

Central members of Kristiansand Progress party claims Hitler’s «Mein Kampf» and the Koran are one of the same, and they want Islam banned in Norway.

Illustrasjonsfoto
(EPA/Scanpix)According to the Norwegian paper Dagbladet, central figures in Kristiansand Progress party (Frp) wants to ban Islam in Norway.

«We are not the only ones demanding this ban,» said Halvor Hulaas, chairperson in Krstiansand Frp to the paper. «This is an opinion that is well established in Scandinavian countries. We are now importing people with a religion that is practiced in the same way it was practiced when it was established in year 600. The freedom we have in Norway may be taken away from us if we do not start to have some demands to these immigrants.»

Karina Udnæs, deputy leader of the Progress party’s city council group in Kristiansand is pushing it even further.

«It is about high time Norway and Europe make the ideology Islam and the practice of this, illegal and punishable in the same way as Nazism,» Udnæs said. «The prophet Muhammad urged them to kill everyone infidel.»

«Udnæs’ comparison of Nazism and Islam is supported by many in Frp,» Hulaas said. «The religion as it is practiced is a threat against our social system and way of life.»

He said that Kristiansand now lives under the threat of getting a large mosque in town.

«Of course, we are aware of what these mosques are used for,» Hulaas said.


This is the true face of Islam








I don't think that there's any question about it. Islam is a belief system (like Judaism)
that will always use the traditions of freedom found in Western countries against those
very countries whenever those countries (through their generous natures) allow such aliens into their homelands. They use will freedom of speech to condemn and threaten the
hosts. They will use freedom of religion and association to threaten and intimidate you.

Remember: Many of the freedoms westerners hold dear are envied or held in contempt
by such people. You are hated for being what you are by Muslims (and Jews) I think it is best to leave them to their respective deserts and let them slit each other's throats rather than letting them into the West en masse, where they import their traditions of misery.

[edit on 7/24/2004 by jdster]



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 07:37 PM
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I'm not surprised if we get some major avenging terror attacks here soon, because of this!

The leader of the Norwegian Progress party (FrP) did also verbally attack Muhammed, the founder of Islam: "We Christians do favour the children. 'Permit little children, and forbid them not , to come to me', said Jesus. I cannot imagine Muhammed saying the same", he said. "If he had said something like that, it must have been like this: 'Permit little children to come to me so I could use them in my battle to islamize the world' ".

Muslim ambassadors in Oslo have written an official letter of complaint about the anti-Islamic statements, and said that 1.3 billion of the world's population have been offended... One simple statement does actually have the power to shake the whole Islamic community! Scary...



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 07:54 PM
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Under Rome, Christianity was the religion of fishermen and farmers in the Middle East, which was a simple backwater the Empire exploited. It was a pauper's religion. Now look at it. Christianity and Judaism are sedate and apathetic. Islam is dynamic and young. The youngest of Abraham's children is stepping up.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 08:07 PM
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Without commenting on the pros and cons, I think it was inevitable that the aggressive, violent nature of the Islamic extremists, coupled with the extensive migration into Europe, would produce a backlash. It doesn't do much good to say, well, its only a small minority that are troublemakers. The problem is, how do you know which they ones are, and no-one wants to have to be watching their backs all the time.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 08:20 PM
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little children to come to me so I could use them in my battle to islamize the world'


Not quite! Since in Mohamed's time people're fighting each other by sword, bow ... which need a lot of strengh. But using children in sucide bombing is a trend nowaday ... One 15 year old boy Palestine got caught this week when he're trying to blow up himself in Israel checkpoint. And he actually didn't really know why he did that ....

How many children really know what they did ?




[edit on 24-7-2004 by salam]



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 06:04 AM
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Im a muslim and i take offense to you saying becouse of some extremists that the koran is bad. Should we ban the bible for the Spanish Inqustion, that was pretty damn extrem. You know what now that i think of it there is alot of white supremacy like the KKK who say they are doing the work of jesus, we better ban the bible too. You know what why dont you try reading the koran before you start talking like you know about it, saying its evil is rediculus, its got all the same values in it the bible does. Dont forget the muslims also belive that jesus is a prophet.

You cant ban islam, it does not teach hate, any one can take things out of text and use it for them selves. Like henry the 8th and most of englan saying if you dont attend church you are a heritic and will burn. Any one can use any religon to casue hate and war.

Seriously read the koran and figure things for your self. And as far as im concernd i have yet to see muslims aproach me on the street here or in iran and ask me to come to there cerimonys and give me pamflits ask for my name or come to my house. Islam is one of the fastest growing religons in the world and they dont sell it to you like christianity.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 06:10 AM
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This is addressed to who ever said that you cant tell you the extremists are and you should not have to watch your back all of the time. This goes both ways, do you know how many times i have been attacked once people find out im muslim? Tons of times, you cant never tell who the extremists are in any race/religon. If world war 2 was yet to happen and you saw hitler just walking down the street would you ever say "that man looks like an extremist"? Of course not, you wouldn't becouse he a christian, well my freind that chrsitian killed 6 million jews yet muslims are the most evil force in the world.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by zi2525
Of course not, you wouldn't becouse he a christian, well my freind that chrsitian killed 6 million jews yet muslims are the most evil force in the world.

A true Christian wouldn't kill over 6 million people. Hitler was a catholic, raised by jesuits.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by otherwise

Originally posted by zi2525
Of course not, you wouldn't becouse he a christian, well my freind that chrsitian killed 6 million jews yet muslims are the most evil force in the world.

A true Christian wouldn't kill over 6 million people. Hitler was a catholic, raised by jesuits.


Sorry forgot he was Catholic.

A true muslim would not do any of the crap the extremists are doing.

Thats what im trying to say, im making the point that there are extremists in everything. I speak to more muslims then most peeople here and all my family and freinds from iran say that the extremists are not true muslims, there is nothing in islam that says to kill every one who is not islamic.

[edit on 25-7-2004 by zi2525]



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 07:31 AM
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Unfortunately, most islamic countries are run by fanatics.
Iran, Iraq (Was), Saudi Arabia, Lebenon, Syria, Afganistan (Was)
the list goes on. If (true) peaceful Muslims ran the countries I'm
sure the situation would be different.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Soul Reaper
Unfortunately, most islamic countries are run by fanatics.
Iran, Iraq (Was), Saudi Arabia, Lebenon, Syria, Afganistan (Was)
the list goes on. If (true) peaceful Muslims ran the countries I'm
sure the situation would be different.


With out doubt it would be better, alot better. Though its still no reason to ban the koran and islam from a supposedly "free" country, they are classifying a holy book with a book about nazis.


AF1

posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 10:41 AM
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Hopefully they'll do the same for Christianity! They are both one in the same, and anyone who says different is misguided.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 10:56 AM
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It is not too far from the truth, comparing certain sects of Islam with the Nazis. They both share an absolute hatred of the Jews, both want Jews completely wiped off the planet.

But then again, alot of racists out there are Christians from seriously deluded sects of Christianity.

Christianity and Islam are dangerous period, but banning them might not bring about the desired effect. It could create an underground movement to terrorize Norway, which would be bad, cuz Norway is a pretty cool country.

I am anti religion myself, as I cannot see how, in todays modern waorld, people still insist on groveling before and placating big vengeful spooks and spirits in the sky. Christianity is a danger too.

But So is Islam, and they both stem from the same root source.

However, I would never personally support banning any religion. I support strong seperation of church and state. I would like to see these two stupid religions go down history's toilet, however, it is something that must be done through mental development of humans of thier own accord, not by force.

However, this is an internal matter for the Norweigans. its thier country, if this works for them, then let them.



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Hey, if it works for them, let em do it!



posted on Jul, 25 2004 @ 11:07 AM
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Jesus founded Christianity, Muhammad founded Islam. These are two of the largest religions in the world with about 1.8 billion and 1.1 billion members respectively. Without a doubt, these men have affected humanity in a powerful way. As religious leaders they laid down many principles to live by.

SLAVERY

JESUS: had no slaves. Jesus taught to do to others as you would have them do to you. Jesus had no slaves, and it is apparent from His teachings that He would not have slaves. He freed men, not enslaved them. No one wants to be enslaved against their will.

Further, Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 1:8-10,

MUHAMMAD: was a slaver. He owned and sold many slaves, both male and female. He said Allah allowed him and his Muslim followers to have sex with their female slaves when the men wanted to. Reference the Quran, Sura (chapters) 33:50, 52, 23:5, and 70:30. Slaves are considered "booty" for Muslims when taken in raids, thus they are Muslim's property. Muhammad felt proud and conceited enough to enslave thousands of people.

Muhammad made slaves out of the people he raided and fought against. Most notable were the women and children survivors of Muhammad's massacre of the 800 males (young teens and up) of the Jewish Banu Quraydhah, Sura 33:26. The Sirat Rasulallah - the earliest biography of Muhammad, gives much more detail on pages 461 and on. Shortly after massacring the Jewish males Ibn Ishaq wrote on page 466:

WAR - TREATMENT OF ADVERSARIES

JESUS: In Luke 9:54, 55 Jesus rebuked His disciples when they wanted to destroy a town that rejected Him. Also, in Luke 22:52, Jesus' disciples started to fight against those that came to arrest Jesus, He stopped them, and healed a man injured in the fight.

MUHAMMAD: told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad's group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression. A few of Muhammad’s actions include:

No one would envision Jesus ordering the execution of slave girls for mocking him years earlier. He brought a better message and a better way of life. No one would imagine Jesus having a man tortured to reveal buried money. His life was free of greed.

Muhammad could be a very brutal man. Does killing a few slave girls for mocking him seem justified?. Is having them killed for that justified? Does it seem rational or sensible? Does torturing a man just to get money portray the type of man society should follow, obey, and emulate?




The massacre of approximately 800 Jewish male captives: (noted in Sura 33:26).



He ordered the execution of 10 people when he took Mecca. Three of these people were slave girls who had previously made fun of Muhammad. Refer to "The Life of Muhammad", pages 551 and 552.



He attacked the Jewish city of Khaibar where he took one of the Jewish leaders and tortured him to force him to tell where some buried money was. After the man refused to talk, and was near death, Muhammad ordered that his head be cut off. Refer to "The Life of Muhammad", page 515.



SOME OF THEIR LAST WORDS


JESUS: "Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Luke 23:34. (said while dying on the cross at Calvary after being betrayed and sentenced to die for no legitimate reason).

MUHAMMAD: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets." Bukhari, Vol. 1, #427 [Muhammad had been poisoned years earlier by a Jewish woman whose husband was killed by the Muslims and the poison had slowly worked its effect. He said this while dying in the arms of his wife Aisha].

Here are their dying words, words that will mark the end of their lives.






[edit on 25-7-2004 by ShadowXIX]




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