Is omission the same as lying?, page 1
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reply posted on 3-4-2011 @ 12:53 AM by maskfan
reply to post by TerryMcGuire


I'd say it depends on a lot of things, though omission of information when faced with a direct question in which you should have included certain information is a lie.


reply posted on 3-4-2011 @ 01:14 AM by Exuberant1
Originally posted by maskfan
reply to post by TerryMcGuire


I'd say it depends on a lot of things, though omission of information when faced with a direct question in which you should have included certain information is a lie.


Should have?

Maybe if you were being paid to answer a question, but if you are doing it for free you are under no obligation.


reply posted on 3-4-2011 @ 08:53 AM by KrypticCriminal
reply to post by Frankidealist35


Omitting facts and lying are both the same IMO. Both can be done to decieve. Both are dishonest so they fall under the same umberella


reply posted on 3-4-2011 @ 03:11 PM by Stunspot
reply to post by Frankidealist35


This is not a difficult or thorny question at all. Yes, it is lying.

Any time you try to convince someone to think that a particular thing is "true", and it is not, you are lying. It doesn't matter whether you do so by stating something false or through subtle emotional manipulation or through deliberate omission of relevant facts.

If you know that what you are saying is likely to give the other person a model of the world that does not match what you think to be true, you are a lying hypocritical ass.

Even worse is the kind of lying known as "spin". Then they don't even _care_ whether it's true or not -- truth is irrelevant and the only consideration is expediency.

Now, this doesn't mean one has to be open and public about everything -- privacy still has its place. But there's a big difference from "I'm not going to answer questions about that" and "I'm not going to bring up the fact that I'm a sex-offender when applying for my job as a teacher".

It's all about intent.
edit on 3-4-2011 by Stunspot because: typo



reply posted on 3-4-2011 @ 03:18 PM by Magantice
reply to post by Stunspot


I totally agree with you. It's all about intent. We have all lied about something from how babies are born to Santa Clause. If you leave out certain details to hurt then yes its a lie. If you leave out certain details to protect then no its not a lie. It is all about INTENT.
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