Originally posted by Jazzerman
tell me exactly where the bible disagrees with Homosexuality? The fact is that it does not say anything even remotely clear on the subject, and its
only the politics of the church that dictate the Homosexuals are bad.
If you believe that the bible is the word of god then god has answered this question. Jesus is the god of the Old Testament. He destroyed Sodom and
Gomorrah because of their grievous sinning, including rape and homosexuality. It is obvious that god doesn�t approve of these actions as stated in the
book of Genesis. In fact if angered him so much that he destroyed the entire city.
You can find some verses in the Old Testament that say we must kill homosexuals however Jesus died for all sins for all time so this is no longer
necessary, Jesus already paid the ultimate price for our sin. The New Testament says to �hate the sin and not the sinner�, so we should condemn the
action and embrace the sinner.
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD .
Genesis 18:20
Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done
is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19
The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed
down with his face to the ground. "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and
then go on your way early in the morning." "No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square." But he insisted so strongly that they
did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. Before they had gone to bed, all the
men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and old-surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight?
Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends.
Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like
with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof."
Lot was going to give his daughters to the homosexual mob of perverts that assembled outside his home to protect the two men. Although it was the
custom of the day to protect guests at any cost, this terrible suggestion reveals how deeply sin had been absorbed into the lives of the people of
Sodom. Lot had become hardened to evil acts in an evil city. Whatever Lot�s motives were, we see an illustration of Sodom�s terrible wickedness � a
wickedness so great that God had to destroy the entire city.
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Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their
own heads.
God's Wrath Against Mankind
Romans 1:21-31
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were
darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and
birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They
exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men
also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in
themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be
done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They
are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless,
faithless, heartless, ruthless.
It�s clear the bible considers homosexuality a sin against God, but we must be careful, however, to condemn only the practice, and not the people.
Even Paul wrote of the wickedness of homosexuality.
Romans 1:18-29
God's Wrath Against Mankind
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19
since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible
qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts
were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like
mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They
exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the
men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received
in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to
be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.
[edit on 24-7-2004 by kinglizard]