"Airplanes as weapons? No one knew that was possible!" Yeah, right...

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posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:07 AM
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When Condoleeza Rice said that no one considered ever using airplanes as weapons, she had to be acting.

In World War 2 the US had a small project in which they turned B-17 bombers into remote-controlled suicide planes packed with high explosives.

In the book 'The Running Man,' the hero pilots a jet into an office building.

In a Tom Clancy novel from the 90s, a Japanese pilot flies a 747 into the Capitol Building during a joint session of Congress with the President and Vice President.

So, just from having a casual interest in reading books, a common person knows it's possible and it must have been a possibility intelligence and defense services were aware of.

Gimme a break.




posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
When Condoleeza Rice said that no one considered ever using airplanes as weapons, she had to be acting.
In World War 2 the US had a small project in which they turned B-17 bombers into remote-controlled suicide planes packed with high explosives.


Actually one of the Kennedy's were killed when the plane he was flying blew up too early. They had to pilot the planes of the ground then the pilot would bail out and the remote would take over. Kennedy did sign up for the project



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by taibunsuu
When Condoleeza Rice said that no one considered ever using airplanes as weapons, she had to be acting.
In World War 2 the US had a small project in which they turned B-17 bombers into remote-controlled suicide planes packed with high explosives.


Actually one of the Kennedy's were killed when the plane he was flying blew up too early. They had to pilot the planes of the ground then the pilot would bail out and the remote would take over. Kennedy did sign up for the project


Damn, talk about going out with a bang.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:39 AM
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You missed the biggest one of all.
The lone gunmen pilot that aired on Fox in March of 2001.

"The FOX TV series The Lone Gunmen (X-Files spin off) airs their opening episode "Pilot" six months before 9/11 which depicts a secret U.S. government agency behind a plot to crash a Boeing 727 into the WTC via remote control and blame it on foreign terrorists in the hopes of generating a bigger military budget. "

Lone Gunman Pilot 3MB clip

They have the full episode here for download:
Lone Gunman

I'm sure it's been discussed here many times but it's worth watching for those who haven't yet seen it.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:45 AM
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USING PLANES AS BOMBS

The Pentagon commissioned an expert panel in 1993 to investigate the possibility of an airplane being used to bomb national landmarks. Retired Air Force Col. Doug Menarchik, who organized the $150,000 study for the Defense Department's Office of Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, recalled: "It was considered radical thinking, a little too scary for the times. After I left, it met a quiet death."

Other participants have noted that the decision not to publish detailed scenarios issued to some extent from fear that this may give terrorists ideas.

Nevertheless, a draft document detailing the results of the investigation was circulated through the Pentagon, the Justice Department and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Senior agency officials decided against a public release. [2]

The veracity of the Pentagon's "radical thinking" was confirmed in 1994 when there occurred three attempted attacks on buildings using airplanes. The first, in April of that year, involved a Federal Express flight engineer facing dismissal.

Having boarded a DC-10 as a passenger, he invaded the cockpit, planning to crash the plane into a company building in Memphis. Fortunately, he was overpowered by the crew.

The second attempt occurred in September. A lone pilot crashed a small plane into a tree on the White House grounds, just short of the president's bedroom.

The third incident occurred in December. An Air France flight in Algiers was hijacked by members of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) who are linked to Al Qaeda - aiming to crash it into the Eiffel Tower. French Special Forces stormed the plane on the ground. [3]

AL QAEDA'S PROJECT BOJINKA

Western intelligence had been aware of plans for such terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as early as 1995. Both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had detailed information about the possible use of hijack/suicide attacks by terrorists connected to Osama Bin Laden. The New York Times reported that:

"In 1994, two jetliners were hijacked by people who wanted to crash them into buildings, one of them by an Islamic militant group. And the 2000 edition of the FAA's annual report on Criminal Acts Against Aviation, published this year, said that although Osama Bin Laden 'is not known to have attacked civil aviation, he has both the motivation and the wherewithal to do so,' adding, 'Bin Laden's anti-Western and anti-American attitudes make him and his followers a significant threat to civil aviation, particularly to U.S. civil aviation'." [4]

Moreover, the U.S. intelligence community was aware of Bin Laden's specific intentions to use hijacked civilian planes as weapons. In this regard, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that:

"The FBI had advance indications of plans to hijack U.S. airliners and use them as weapons, but neither acted on them nor distributed the intelligence to local police agencies.



Source: www.metimes.com...

-koji K.

[edit on 24-7-2004 by koji_K]

[edit on 24-7-2004 by koji_K]



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
"The FOX TV series The Lone Gunmen (X-Files spin off) airs their opening episode "Pilot" six months before 9/11 which depicts a secret U.S. government agency behind a plot to crash a Boeing 727 into the


Good catch Ace, I watched a few Lone Gunmen Episodes, but never saw the pilot. Yikes Wonder if they talked to Chris Carter after that one.....



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
You missed the biggest one of all.
The lone gunmen pilot that aired on Fox in March of 2001.

"The FOX TV series The Lone Gunmen (X-Files spin off) airs their opening episode "Pilot" six months before 9/11 which depicts a secret U.S. government agency behind a plot to crash a Boeing 727 into the WTC via remote control and blame it on foreign terrorists in the hopes of generating a bigger military budget. "

Lone Gunman Pilot 3MB clip

They have the full episode here for download:
Lone Gunman

I'm sure it's been discussed here many times but it's worth watching for those who haven't yet seen it.





yikes. that's freaky. that's on a par with all the codewords for the normandy landings in ww2 appearing in the times' crossword the day before d-day. (true).

-koji K.



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 06:56 AM
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I thought everyone on this group would have seen that by now seeing as this group is dedicated to cospiracies.

Here's atranscript of the episode if you don't have broadband to download the full episode:
www.twiztv.com...



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 09:22 AM
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I wonder if anyone was aware that back in 1974 a mental patient named Samuel Byck tried hijack an ariplane at gunpoint and crash it into the White House to kill President Nixon. He failed, obviously, but it was known to authorities that the idea had existed before (27 years) of crashing airliners into buildings



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 11:14 AM
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You missed another bigger one: Japanese camicazie pilots. The US has enough experience of it during Perl Harbor...



posted on Jul, 24 2004 @ 05:23 PM
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To state the obvious: Aren't these CIA/National Security types HIRED in order to "think outside the box?"
It seems that there must be an extreme failure of imagination.
Geez, I have more imagination than they do.
Not to mention historical memory (ie: the posts about Joe Kennedy's plane and the Kamikaze pilots).
Are they stupid or something more sinister?
joey





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