Quotes from NASA Astronauts & Specialists on UFO's

Originally posted by Anunaki10
UFO Hunters:The Nasa Files

No dispute that the show says lots of things. Are you citing them as an original source for the Walker quote?

Did anybody on the show see Walker's press conference? A tape of it? A transcript of it?

I can guaranty to you that nobody on the show talked with Walker.

So what makes the repetition of an old rumor somehow a verification of the rumor?

Case in point -- your repetition of their repetition of the Borman 'bogie' story. Again,
we can guaranty they never talked with Borman (who is still alive) about the story,
they just read it in some UFO magazine and assumed it was "true enough" for
their target audience -- you.

Originally posted by JimOberg
No dispute that the show says lots of things. Are you citing them as an original source for the Walker quote?

Did anybody on the show see Walker's press conference? A tape of it? A transcript of it?

I can guaranty to you that nobody on the show talked with Walker.

So what makes the repetition of an old rumor somehow a verification of the rumor?

Thanks for bringing this up. Do you know when that TV program was aired? What do you mean by not talking with Walker himself, was he dead (by natural course i assume) before they had the chance to contact him / interview him?

No, i don't cite the UFO Hunters as the original source for the Walker quote. I guess they may have contacted someone who are 'in the know', who know about the Walker UFO case, who possibly may have shown them some original Top Secret documents / transcript, and maybe documents of National Conference maybe, i just say maybe. But, you're right, The Nasa Files Show does not mention any source to the Walker UFO case at all, and that's a good example of bad presentation. Oops, what a bad presentation of Walker. They should have shown what sources they used, and what people they have contacted / interviewed.

I have tried to google to check out any interview regarding Walker, but it seems, unfortunately, there are lack of info about that on the Internet. There are still LOTS of info out there that are NOT on the Internet, not only lack of info about Walker on the Internet, but lack of info on the Internet regarding lots of other cases as well.
But, so far so good i came across this one x15ufos.blogspot.com...

We have the 3.5 sec VHS tape of Joseph Walker's X-15 Plane Aft Camera video footage of two disc shaped AKA UFOs flying by Joseph Walker's X-15 Plane.

The tape was received from a woman in Denver Colorado May 2009. She claims to be the daughter of a TV producer in Los Angeles who, during 1980, assisted in producing a TV program that AIRED on KTLA Channel 5 Titled 'UFOs'. At the end of this program was video play of these two disc shaped objects approximately 100 yards from the X-15 Plane. Very close up images of the fly by with earth atmosphere background. The two disc shaped objects appeared to be SPINNING and banking down toward lower atmosphere and away from the X-15 Plane. Color was METALLIC. Sun reflections were noticeable and in plane sight. The footage lasted 3.5 sec on edit board. Entry from left screen to right downward and fade to black by original editing producer. The fly by was shown four times, twice in slow motion for viewers.

We were asked to digitize this footage for a fee. Currently, this tape has been put into three media file forms and copied onto several flash drives. All media forms of this footage is privately owned by this women. We have copies under strict agreement not to distribute until the time is right.

The first Youtube video clip addressing his X-15 UFO incident was POSTED by us in 2009. Two frames flashed our website www.X15ufo.xxx with the time code posted in title line. Something interesting here with viewer stats. In one day, 300 approx view spiked to 1600 views most from Africa?

Since then our video posting has been DELETED! Two other Youtubers have posted video and as well as History Channel. In those video clips the footage is ABSENT!

We contact three sources for distribution to public advisement. Mr. Stanton T. Friedman, Colorado HQ M.U.F.O.N. Co-Founder John Schuessler, and S.E.T.I. .org website. Only Mr Friedman responded inquiring about distribution. Our reply is the same today, the owner of the footage and DV media has intentions to sell the property rights.

We are posting this blog to see if anyone else has seen this program in Los Angeles. If so, please contact us at x15ufo.net after Feb 15th 2011.

We are the media crew posting openly to online forums to others who may wish to add more information to this project.

Those disc shaped objects could have been man made (we don't know that) using different technology. They were only two and they were not illuminated in any way. We don't know why they were spinning. From the footage, visual was clear and you could see the DETAILS on the objects. Size approximate 40-60 ft. in length. 20-30 ft. height.

A Youtube posting is out of the question as the previous test post proved Google people are CENSORING the topic. Hopefully this will reach someone BEFORE this blog gets DELETED!

Our recent attempts to contact media included: The Larry King Show, CNN, BBC, and several newspapers in major US cities. We have some interest in connecting with the conspiracy/UFO community. Coast To Coast AM was emailed recently.

We are located in Colorado Springs. A meeting can be scheduled for a private viewing if one of the groups sends a representative to document.

Remember we are talking about UFO's here not aliens. Alot of the quotes just mention that, that person believes in UFO's. I myself believe in UFO's to be honest anyone who doesnt is insane.

UFO means unidenified flying object, wheres as most people seen to think straight away of little grey aliens in a spaceship. To explain the increase in sightings of UFO's lately i am almost certain that these sightings are down to:

1. New weapons testing, maybe weapons we cannot even think of.
2. New aircraft testing, god knows what kind of craft are goverments are testing.
3. Are own incredible increase in human tehnology over the last 60 years is naturally gonna lead to alot of UFO sightings for whatever reason.
4. Nature, i believe alot ufo sightings can be explained by unexplained natural phenomenon. (Theres alot we dont know about nature)

Just my idea on most sightings.
Oh and yes i do believe in alien life, weather they are here observing earth i do not know

If aliens are visiting they do operate on our planet in apparent secrecy, would it truly be the choice of our governments to disclose? While I do believe that governmental agencies must have some data that is hidden I do not believe that they have the answers that so many would like to find.

Originally posted by iforget
If aliens are visiting they do operate on our planet in apparent secrecy, would it truly be the choice of our governments to disclose? While I do believe that governmental agencies must have some data that is hidden I do not believe that they have the answers that so many would like to find.

Thats what i believe aswell. I can admitt that i (aswell as most others) would like the answer to be true that goverment agency's know about aliens.
HOWEVER while i would like it to be true, i dont think any goverment agencies or anyone for that matter has any idea or clue that aliens are visiting us. I mean how is it possible for them to keep something like this a secret, it is impossible. Say for example the top 200 (maybe alot higher number) people working for goverments secret stuff new about aliens, surely they would be tempted to tell someone, even there families because its like the biggest thing EVER, it would change there lives in a massive way FOREVER.

I think when we do for a fact find aliens, it will spread like wild fire over the hole world in a matter of minutes. It wont be a secret thats kept for 100 years.

Originally posted by CharterZZ
Remember we are talking about UFO's here not aliens. Alot of the quotes just mention that, that person believes in UFO's. I myself believe in UFO's to be honest anyone who doesnt is insane.

UFO means unidenified flying object, wheres as most people seen to think straight away of little grey aliens in a spaceship. To explain the increase in sightings of UFO's lately i am almost certain that these sightings are down to:

1. New weapons testing, maybe weapons we cannot even think of.
2. New aircraft testing, god knows what kind of craft are goverments are testing.
3. Are own incredible increase in human tehnology over the last 60 years is naturally gonna lead to alot of UFO sightings for whatever reason.
4. Nature, i believe alot ufo sightings can be explained by unexplained natural phenomenon. (Theres alot we dont know about nature)

Just my idea on most sightings.
Oh and yes i do believe in alien life, weather they are here observing earth i do not know

Thanks for bringing this up 'ChargerZZ'

To 1) New weapons. Reports tell of Russian Starwars program, and Ronald Reagan's Starwars program, yes.

I think it's a good idea to have in mind who actually are piloting UFOs. Lots of reports tell of objects travelling at incredible speeds, make sudden sharp angle turns (that normally would kill any human pilot when talking about flying within Earth's atmosphere) or zigzagging for example at astonishing 42,000 mph! www.ufocasebook.com... www.ufocasebook.com... (notice the unusual hieroglyphic signs on this 600 meters long UFO) witnessed by pilots, people on the ground and tracked on radar as well. Do humans make 600 meters long UFO? Do humans make a mile long UFO witnessed somewhere in the United States? www.ufocusnz.org.nz... www.ufos-aliens.co.uk... alientattletale.com... Marina Popovich explained that a 16 mile long UFO 'Kidnapped' a Russian probe in space near Mars. Do humans use unknown hieroglyphic signs on these crafts? I don't think so. Are human made UFOs able to make unusual turns in space today? I don't think so, yet (unless incredible reports tell so, then i will be open minded to this possibilty).

There are, however, reports of humans who make and test UFO-looking 'crafts', yes, both in Russia and the United States. But, i don't think these scientists use unknown hieroglyphic signs on them, and i don't think they have the ability to fly them at incredible speeds, and make sharp turns, without killing human pilots, yet.

How did Earthlings reportedly got the idea of making UFOs? If we go back to the time of WWII, the Third Reich, then www.abovetopsecret.com...

Czernica, Germany (now territory of Poland) - Summer 1937

"A multicolored ball or globe-shaped UFO was seen to fall in a field (or near a field) belonging to Eva Braun’s parents (this was the future mistress of Adolph Hitler) The area was cordoned off by SS-troops from the town of Jelenia Gora (called Hirschberg at the time)."
"The crashed disk was transported to the Hirschberg SS base and kept under very strong guard and super top security. The disk was 7.6 meter in diameter and 3.8 meters high. It consisted of a large “overwhelming” dome, encircled by a narrow outer rim, and smaller flat dome on the bottom with a flat lower section. The top of the dome was also flat and large. The craft had 6 oval-shaped structures resembling portholes but not transparent, or devices that radiated some type of light, located near the base of the upper dome. On the lower surface of the outer rim the craft had 12 lights. The color of the disk was a dull metal gray. There was an insignia on the dome resembling the letter “T” with 2 props on its sides. The entrance into the disk was found on the top of the upper dome. The general shape of the disk resembled that of a German soldier’s helmet with a small protrusion on the bottom."
"Inside the circular cabin were 3 small seats, there were control panels around the dome and 3 alien beings were found: one was dead, the other two were alive. One of the live aliens died soon after the crash, and the second live alien remained in custody for about 1.5 months and then died. The aliens were small dwarfs, about 0.9-1.0m in height, with large hairless pear-shaped heads, small dystrophic looking bodies, long narrow hands with 4 fingers, grayish skin and large dark slanted eyes."
"The Germans were afraid to move the disk to a more distant location, out of apprehension that it might explode during a long trip during transportation. So, a research laboratory had to be constructed nearby. From Hirschberg the disk was removed to a more secured underground location, which most likely, was called “Der Riese” a Nazi complex in the nearby Gory Sowie mountains (now in southwest Poland), which was also a site being used for excavating for uranium ore. This complex had an extensive network of underground hangars, connected by tunnels. The bodies of the occupants and the living extraterrestrial were also moved into this complex. The alien that lived for a little bit over a month apparently supplied the Germans with some type of information and was desperately asking the Nazi medical doctors for help, but they could not help him because of the different biological structure of his body. The alien died from an unknown illness."
"The origin of the crashed craft was apparently the double star system RA known on earth as [b ]78 mu-1, Cygni, 73.1 light years in distance. Among the information given to the Germans by the surviving alien was that they had built underground bases in the polar region of the Canadian Northern Territories maybe Baffin Island. This data was supplied to Adolph Hitler himself. But no substantial technical data was in fact provided by the alien that could had help Nazi scientists to cope with the alien technology, despite their desperate attempt to obtain such data. The surviving alien also informed the Germans that the crashed was caused by some kind of technical malfunction. The alien was kept and interrogated at the same underground installation as the disk."
"Adolph Hitler and some other top Nazi figures including Werner Von Braun and Air Marshall Hermann Goring inspected the crashed disk, the alien bodies and consulted Nazi scientists in an attempt to use the object as a super secret weapon. Among those scientist involved in investigating the crashed disc were, Max Von Laue, Otto Hahn (who discovered nuclear fusion) and Werner Heisenberg. Fortunately (and unfortunately for the Nazis) the alien technology was extremely sophisticated and difficult to understand. The disc indeed INSPIRED some Nazi scientists to construct different models of disc-shaped planes and the so-called flying bombs."
"This crash and possession of the extraterrestrial spacecraft was one of the factors that possibly inspired Hitler with extreme self-confidence to start World War II, hoping to use the craft as a sort of super weapon that would eventually help him conquer the world. Because of the approaching Soviet troops the whole underground complex was blown up, and the disk and the alien bodies was buried in one of the underground tunnels, the entrance was sealed with numerous huge rocks. It is apparently still there, unbeknownst to the Polish Government. The disk apparently still emanates radiation from its power plant, but because of the nearby uranium mines this source of radiation remains undetected."

this report tell how the Nazis might have got the idea to try win the air battle against the allies. It's only good the Nazis never got that far. So the answer to your 2) Yes, Russia and USA are reportedly testing human made UFOs.
And as i previously posted during this thread, 'whistleblowers' claim that aliens are teaching human scientists in alien technology in the U.S. Air Force and NAVY www.youtube.com... and in NASA as well. So maybe NASA is testing human made UFOs in space, maybe, yes, it could be possible. www.truthcontrol.com...

The Incident

Barry Castillio, Lazar's coworker, told the story of an altercation that took place in 1979 between the aliens and the humans at the base. Apparently, the aliens were given a location at the facility to conduct experiments. It was agreed between the aliens and humans that there would be human military guards securing the immediate perimeter. One day, due to the volatility concerns the aliens had over a certain experiment that they were conducting, they demanded that the guards not be present. The concern was that the bullets in their guns and gunbelts would cause a reaction! The guards refused and proceeded to come closer to the danger area. They were immediately terminated by the aliens, later found by two other guards to be lying dead of identical head wounds.
The actions and reactions of these events escalated until 44 military guards were killed. The aliens then killed the scientist they were teaching and left the facility and much of the alien technology behind.
The back engineering program began in late 1979 with the remaining hardware and technology. Before the aliens left, they somehow stated that they would return at a date represented by six digits starting with 1625xx. Lazar was given no cross reference for this date to our numbering system and couldn't speculate as to what the date meant. The xx's indicate unknown numbers.

So to your post, i want to add 5) Some reports tell of alien spacecrafts visiting Earth from other starsystems and dimensions. www.youtube.com... Dr. Roger Leir remove what he call 'Alien implants' from his patients who claim to be taken aboard UFOs and abducted by aliens (thousands of people from all over the world claim to be abducted by aliens), and some of the best experts in the world concluded that these 'Alien implants' are of Extraterrestrial origin.
Reports also tell that NORAD tracks an average of about 500 'Fastwalkers' (UFOs) that enter Earth's atmosphere from deep space, and leave Earth's atmosphere and fly into deep space each year.
And during this thread, my posts about reports also tell that Astronauts claim to have seen alien spacecrafts on the Moon. And that NASA reportedly 'Airbrush' anomalies on the Moon out of the photos.

Originally posted by Anunaki10
But, so far so good i came across this one x15ufos.blogspot.com...

Now that's a good find, I'd never seen it before.

What jumps out at me first off is the claim of precise distance and size of the alleged objects. All based on a single 2-d film sequence.

Doesn't that strike you as odd, too?

If you search 'Joe Walker' and B-70, you'll see the news of his death in a mid-air collision forty years ago.

Originally posted by JimOberg
Now that's a good find, I'd never seen it before.

What jumps out at me first off is the claim of precise distance and size of the alleged objects. All based on a single 2-d film sequence.

Doesn't that strike you as odd, too?

If you search 'Joe Walker' and B-70, you'll see the news of his death in a mid-air collision forty years ago.

Precise? The info tells the distance to these objects was approximately 100 yards, and that mean it could be more or less than 100 yards. Size of the objects reportedly says approximately 40-60 ft. in length and 20-30 ft. height. That mean they could be somewhere between 40-60 feet in length, maybe a little less than 40 feet, or maybe a bit more than 60 feet. And somewhere between 20-30 feet high, maybe a little less than 20 feet, or maybe a bit more than 30 feet.
No, you're wrong, that's not precise...

No, i don't find it odd. Even a human eye can measure distances and size of things, not as good eyesights as birds like falcons and eagles (these birds see much better), but it's possible for a human eye to measure distances and sizes of things.
The report does not tell how the objects were measured in size and distance from the X-15. It could be interesting if they included how the objects were measured. Did the posters forgot to include that? Or did the TV-producer forgot to include that? Did the TV-producer didn't find it interesting enough, or wasn't there enough time for that? Also that could be interesting to know.
Hopefully, i wish they succeed to put the video on the Internet.
And did the TV-producer forgot to include any interviews regarding Walker during The UFO Hunters' Nasa Files Show? Or did the TV-producer didn't find it interesting enough, or wasn't there enough time for that? Also that could be interesting to know.

Thanks for the info about Walker and B-70 www.youtube.com... www.youtube.com... So far so good i found these. Sorry to hear about his tragic death. He is one of the heroes in your heart.

Originally posted by Anunaki10
Even a human eye can measure distances and size of things, not as good eyesights as birds like falcons and eagles (these birds see much better), but it's possible for a human eye to measure distances and sizes of things.

Human binocular vision is good to a limited range, and there's no
claim that the range was based on Walker's personal estimate.

If two widely separated cameras got the same thing in view, it would be possible.

More likely the range/size story is fiction.

What's the evidence it's real?

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