reply to post by JiggyPotamus
Also, if the government wanted to infiltrate an online community dealing with conspiracies, etc...then they would have to infiltrate as many as
possible,...The manpower required to achieve this would be staggering, not to mention if I was correct in assuming every poster would have to have a
security clearance that would be higher than "entry level," or secret (I think that is the first level, not sure...) I could be wrong in this
assumption, but it makes sense to me.
Here is how it is done.
I am afraid it is rather long and complicated so stay with me. It took me a couple years to figure it out.
It all started out when a group of us farmers tried to get Organic Consumers Assoc. Food & Water Watch and La Vidi Locavore to join in our fight
against Monsanto's Food Safety bill.
We were SHOCKED when instead of helping they started a massive internet dis-info campaign called
HR875: Stop the Hysteria!
This is typical of the 136 hits if you google that phrase.
...These statements are NOT true and the bill does have good elements. I talked to Organic Consumers Association, a leader in the sustainable food
movement, to get some clarification. Staff from the reputable group allayed my fears and told me....
BULL POOP! I have read ever @#$@ word of that blasted bill. This lawyer sums it up nicely:
...Section 406 of the bill reads as follows: “PRESUMPTION. In any action to enforce the requirements of the food safety law, the
connection with interstate commerce required for jurisdiction shall be presumed to exist.”
Lori Robertson of FactCheck.org, who is not a lawyer (she has a B.A. in advertising), claims the bill doesn’t apply to “that tomato plant in your
As a lawyer, I am skeptical of this claim (I co-represented the prevailing defendant in the last successful constitutional challenge to federal
regulation under the interstate commerce clause, United States v. Morrison (2000), one of only two cases in 70 years in which a challenge was
successful). Congress's power under the Constitution's Commerce Clause is almost unlimited in the eyes of the courts, and thus can reach the
"tomato plant in your backyard."
This so-called “food safety” bill may actually make food less safe....
So what the heck happened???
You will note Lori Robertson of FactCheck.org, has a B.A. in advertising.
A BIG Red Flag is I ever saw one.
G. Edward Griffin in his Talk on the Federal Reserve
pointed the way forward. He said.
...We're talking about a river of unearned wealth that is so wide you can't even think of crossing it, flowing perpetually into the banking
cartel. A dead short across the productive element of society. ....this huge river of wealth flowing into the banking cartel.
You are led to the question of where is this river flowing? ..... When a person has all the wealth that you could possibly want for the material
pleasures of life, what is left? Power. They are using this river of wealth to acquire power over you and me and our children.
.... They are literally buying up the world but not the real estate and the hardware, they're buying control over the organizations, the groups and
institutions that control people. In other words, to be specific, they are buying control over politicians, political parties, television networks,
cable networks, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, wire services, motion picture studios, universities, labor unions, church organizations,
trade associations, tax-exempt foundations, multi-national corporations, boy scouts, girl scouts, you name it..... That's a critical area for
expenditure on their part.
So I do some digging and I find:
Organic Consumers Association $57,176.00
- 2000 – 2005 Rockefeller Philanthropy
Also $35,750.00 from The Tides Foundation
for the year
One board director of Food and Water Watch is Dennis Keeney. He is a Senior Fellow at the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
$25,000.00 - 2006 - Tides
$71,774.00 - 1997 to 2001 - Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors
$60,000.00 - 1999 to 2001 - Rockefeller Brothers Fund
$82,500.00 - 1991 to 2003 - Rockefeller Family Fund
$344,134.00 - 2000 to 2004 - Rockefeller Foundation
Mark Ritchie: President of Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
The Tides Foundation, founded in 1976, has provided more than $300 million in funding
for what it calls "positive social change...
The Tides Center’s corporate registration documents on file in Minnesota show that Mark Ritchie is its “registered agent.” This might
explain why the Tides Foundation has paid over $20,000 to a commercial corporation owned by Ritchie and his brother....The Ritchie brothers run this
for-profit venture out of the same offices of their nonprofit (IATP)...
This is business as usual for Mark Ritchie, though. He is the mastermind behind several other food-scare and health-scare organizations, all of which
get appreciable funding through his Tides connection... activistcash.com...
Tides Foundation & Tides Center: - Donations FROM Rockefeller's $9,467,955.00 (1991 - 2005)
Rockefeller Family Fund: $1,225,000.00 1991 – 2004
Rockefeller Brothers Foundation $2,879,900.00 1993 – 2005
Rockefeller Foundation $4,543,775.00 1993 – 2005
Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors $819,300.00 1997 – 2004
Money of course is only one type of bribe. The other is POWER. Further digging gives us:
Maude Barlow a “no dog in this fight” Canadian, is a director of both. She has been handsomely rewarded for selling the US consumer out with an
appointment as New Senior Advisor to the UN president on October 21, 2008.
Mark Ritchie and Maude Barlow are in it for the power and money. They are the ones who run the show and usually know what is going on.
"Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on
particular issues," notes Peter Spiro. "Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents
the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots." The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the
MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations. www.afn.org...
But what about La Vida Locavoire??? aka Orange Cloud. She was all over the internet making comment after comment. A real life dis-info agent.
Orange Cloud lists herself as Jill Richardson - Consultant on her website, La Vida Locavore, but she is also a "UC San Diego" Sustainability
Coordinator and is working on the practical aspects of UN Agenda 21 for the University of California, San Diego. If you have not figured it out
already "Sustainability" is the code word for the UN Agenda 21.
Jill represents the third type of Dis-info, the true believer and therefore the most dangerous kind.
The ‘Innocents' Clubs’
...How did it come about that much of the British intelligensia, for decades, was persuaded of the moral superiority of Communism, and of its
inevitability as the future political system of the world? One man, virtually unknown and unnoticed, can claim the dubious distinction of being the
Trotsky chose well in Münzenberg. Following the rise to power of the Bolsheviks, he pioneered most of the manipulative political techniques which are
a feature of life in Britain today. Ad hoc committees for endless causes, politicized arts festivals, mock trials, celebrity letterheads,
disinformation stunts and protest marches all sprang from Münzenberg's sheer genius for propaganda.
Stephen Koch, in his book Double Lives: Stalin, Willi Münzenberg and the Seduction of the Intellectuals, calls this "righteous politics."
During the 1920's and most of the 1930's Münzenberg played a leading role in the Comintern, Lenin's front for world-wide co-ordination of the left
under Russian control. Under Münzenberg's direction, hundreds of groups, committees and publications cynically used and manipulated the devout
radicals of the West.
Most of this army of workers in what Münzenberg called 'Innocents' Clubs' had no idea they were working for Stalin. They were led to believe that
they were advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism. The descendents of the 'Innocents' Clubs' are still hard at work in our universities
Every year a new cohort of impressionable students join groups like the Anti-Nazi League believing them to be benign opponents
of oppression, rather than the Trotskyite fronts they really are.
The other avenues for spreading Disinformation:
Control of the News:
According to Congressional Record for 1917: "...the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests.... and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men
high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to
control generally the policy of the daily press of the US.... They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.
...an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information...." Congressman Oscar Callaway statements included in the
Congressional Record (vol. 54, February 9, 1917, p. 2947).
That control has not ended: JP Morgan controls 54 U.S. daily newspapers,and owns 31 television stations.
CONTROL of EDUCATION
In this country the manipulation of education was evident when the Bank Cartel placed their specially groomed economists in universities.
“They gave large amounts of money to some of the better known universities in America; they created newly formed departments of economics with
that money; they hand picked their own people to be the professors to head up those departments and then those professors with all of their academic
credentials gave speeches and wrote scholarly essays extolling the virtues of the Federal Reserve System. www.bigeye.com...
Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations INTENTIONALLY
ALTERED AMERICAN HISTORY
Norman Dodd tells how the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Guggenheim and Ford Foundations set out to control education and rewrite American history in order to
merge America into the one-world government they could control....
...they approach the Guggenheim Foundation which specialized in fellowships and say, when we find young men in the process of studying for doctorates
in the field of American history.... they assembled 20 and they take this 20 potential teachers of American history to London and there they’re
briefed into what is expected of them when as and if they secure appointments in keeping with the doctorates they will have earned.
And that group of 20 historians ultimately becomes the nucleus of the American Historical Association....
Carroll Quigley, an influential former history professor at the Foreign Service Schools of Georgetown University. ...Bill Clinton's mentor,..
"There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent in the way the radical
Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the
Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was
permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records.... [I]n general my chief difference of opinion is that it
wishes to remain unknown...."
"At the end of the war of 1914 [World War 1], it became clear that the organization of this [secret] system had to be greatly extended... the task
was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing local Round Table Group. This front
organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New
York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company.... In fact, the original plans for the Royal
Institute of International Affairs and The Council of Foreign Relations were drawn up at Paris [Peace Conference of 1919..
In other words, this conspiracy was international from the start. And, beginning with the British diamond magnate, Cecil Rhodes, it was grounded in
enormous wealth -- riches acquired through capitalism, not through the global socialism it envisions for all but the elite. The key players were
power-driven bankers, rich corporations, and tax-free foundations that controlled the resources needed to buy the cooperation of publishers,
media moguls, educational institutions, and government leaders across the political spectrum....
Then you have John Dewey, "Father of Progressive Education", founding member of the American Fabian Society and responsible for
DUMBING DOWN AMERICA!
David Rockefeller even admits he and a secret cabal were working against the best interests of the United States to "build a more integrated
global political and economic structure"
in his Autobiography
....Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as
"internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world,
if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - Pg. 405 of David Rockefeller's Autobiography, 2002
(Note: there is more than one group, this is the Banker/intellectual elite aka The Fabian Society)
THE STAINED GLASS WINDOW FROM THE FABIAN
Also check out the issues page. Half way down are a bunch of pdfs like Part 4: The War on Terrorism
- interesting reading.
Bankrolling the Bolshievik Revolution
Fabians, the Round Table, and the Rhodes Scholars