Michael S. Heiser - Zecharia Sitchin is Wrong, Sumerian Writings & Nibiru August 29, 2010 Zecharia Sitchin is a well known name when it comes to “Ancient Astronaut” or “Ancient Aliens” theories. Sitchin has written about the Sumerian and Mesopotamian cultures and given us books on the Annunaki, The Twelfth Planet, Planet X or Nibiru and the return of this planet and “the gods.” It been said that that the Annunaki created humanity as a slave race to do their bidding. How much of this is true? Have there been any further analysis of the writing and of Sitchin’s work? Are there any corroborating sources for these claims? We have Michael S. Heiser with us to share some of his finding with us in regards to cuneiform script, the Sumerian culture, the Annunaki, Nephilim, Nibiru and the quality of Sitchin’s work and research
To me the seal of the heavenly bodies in the upper left hand corner was the earth and Sun depicting 7 large Asteroids that hit the earth causing the earth to [bow down, as the Bible states it] move off of it's correct axis. In many acient texts it says the Sun did not raise where it did before. My date for this event was 2354 BC, +5/-5 years, this was reached by tree rings showing the event at that line, also Dr. de Jonge, found the date about the same time I did from rock gylphs and stone circles. /quote]
Are you seriously claiming that the ancients knew about asteroids?
Are you also claiming that the impacts altered the Earth's rotational axis?
What sort of evidence are tree rings going to tell you about the orientation of the Earth?
There are still trees on this planet over 5,000 years old.
Tree rings also tell when there are mass extiction periods, drought, floods etc.
even the Pyramids are aligned to Thruban in the Draconous Constellation.
the Pole Star Polairis was suddenly the New Pole star in a matter of just 4 years.
Many Ancient sites aligned to this north star are now 23.2 degrees off of their alignment
We do know that about 5,000 years ago, around the time the Great Pyramid at Giza and Stonehenge were being constructed, the Earth's north pole pointed near the star Thuban, in Draco.
In the case of the Egyptian pyramids, it has been shown they were aligned towards Thuban, a faint star in the constellation of Draco. The effect can be substanstial over relatively short lengths of time, historically speaking.
Some 12,000 years from now"nearly halfway through one cycle of precession"Earth's axis will point toward a star called Vega, which will then be the "North Star." Five thousand years ago, the North Star was a star named Thuban in the constellation Draco
The oldest Tree on the Planet is 9,550 years old.
Polaris was not the pole star in 2500 BC when the pyramids were constructed.
That is as far as I got, If you wish to say I am wrong about anything else I would appreciate it if you did the searching and researching to prove I am wrong. Just cause you say it don't make it so
The date of this Flood is accurately known, c.2344 BC (tree-ring dating, uncertainty of 5 years).
And it takes 26,000 years for the earth to align to a new pole star.
That is why when Thuban was the pole star when the pyramids were built 2500 BC and then in 1700 BC suddenly Polairs was the pole star the earth had to move and did 23.7 degrees off of it's Axis. It is now 23.5 degrees off as it has corrected itself 0.2 degrees.
Draco [Lat.,=the dragon], northern constellation lying SE of Ursa Minor and N of Lyra and Hercules. It is traditionally depicted as a dragon. Draco contains the bright star Eltanin (Gamma Draconis). Thuban (Alpha Draconis) was the polestar 5,000 years ago, i.e., it was the star nearest the celestial pole, but because of the precession of the equinoxes , the polestar is now Polaris . Draco reaches its highest point in the evening sky in July, and is visible throughout the year for observers north of 40°N lat.
The Pharaoh Khufu ruled ancient Egypt around 2550 BC and was buried in the largest of the Giza pyramids when he died. During his time, Thuban was the pole star, (because of Earth's precession) around which all other stars revolved. Khufu's burial chamber was fashioned deep inside the Great Pyramid. Two skinny shafts bore outward from the chamber.
I bet you didn't go to one site or even read or google and try to find the truth, if you did you would find that you are the one that is wrong, I started not to even answer you the first time, a lot of people on this site think that telling someone they are wrong makes them sound smart. You look up the evidence. then we will talk, I will even help you but you will have to read them yourself. Googled "Pole Star 5000 years ago"
Here are enough referrences to Thuban being the pole star 5000 years ago. Email all of them and tell them they are wrong.
All you want to do is argue, but evidently you have not read anything I posted or went to any of the links. This is not my thread and I am not going to keep responding to someone that can't except that a female might be smart.
I gave you site that are by astronomers and physics if you are not going to read them then I am pushing my "ignor button"./quote]
I read the sites and I already knew the material in them. The issue is not what is in the links, but your interpretation of the material.
If you think I am wrong prove it or lets just drop it. I thought I would join this site and have some intelligent conversations. Guess I was wrong. Thuban was True North then is my point, Which proves the earth did shift. If the Earth was back on it's correct Axis, Thuban would be True North again.
The crux of matter is you not understanding the material you've read. let's see if I can clear this up with an example.
Imagine being inside of a silo. You are handed a compass. The compass allows you to determine North. Suppose you decide to mark a spot on the silo wall to be North. You figure that way you can always know North without having to get out your compass. Suppose that you live in the silo. For whatever reason you decide to align your bed with north.
So now we have you inside of a silo with a dot on the wall and a bed aligned with north. You wake up after a good nights sleep and you see that the bed is no longer aligned with the dot. You get out the compass and check and sure enough the compass is no longer pointing at the dot. You go to the wall and place a new dot on the silo wall, but leave your bed in place. The next morning you wake up and find the same issue. You place a new dot and leave the bed alone.
After a bit you realize that the silo is turning. Not only that, but a measurement of the dots shows that the process is a smooth and even turn being the same amount each day.
This is what is happening on the Earth. The Earth has a wobble. The wobble is slow and takes 26,000 years to complete. Divide that by 360 and you get 72 years. So the wobble moves 360 degrees in 26000 years or 1 degree in 72 years.
At one time the star close to true North was Thuban. Now it is Polaris. Regardless of which star is close to true NOrth, true North has not changed much since the time of Thuban. That is why the pyramids are still aligned to true North even if the star close to true North changes.
NASA astronomers verified 4 of my impact sites
that proves my theory that the earth was knocked off of it's axis between 2500BC and 1700 BC
Therefore something very big happened, Astroarchaeology has shown that ancient sites and temples were aligned to Thuban[2500BC], then were destroyed and new temples were built right on top of the old ones with a new alignment 23.7 degrees off of the old alignment [1700BC]