Louis Theroux: America’s Most Hated Family In Crisis!

And parts 2 & 3.
One more to go.

Just saw the second available clip on "America's most hated family in crisis".
I'm disgusted by their hypocrisy.
In the old SA they would have been run out of town for their disruptive black street music and their pop-art signs.
(Most people didn't know what "fags" were back then, just cigarettes.)

If you belong to a sect that is so abstract that it connects oil spills and fallen soldiers to gay sex, then don't use modernist culture inspired by gays and other "hell-bound" people.

The guy's T-shirt has motifs and stylizing that came straight from heavy metal culture, and also became popular in rap music later. God will not look kindly on borrowing from the occult.

God will also not look kindly on colorful pop-art posters that are reminiscent of Andy Warhol - a gay art icon.

The beat of the music is that of pagan jungle cultures, and invites demons.

The women wear men's clothing (pants) and their hair is uncovered.
They should stand silently.
The guy trims his beard.
We don't even know about their teachings of Mosaic Law on eating, circumcision, menstruation or shedding seed.
They're probably all unclean.

This is a liberal family of libertines who are certainly hell-bound for their permissive ways.
They were raised for the devil and the hottest flames of hell for their sins.

They need some real old school Calvinists from SA to come there and poke that Westboro woman with a cane, and say: "You, you filthy slut, why are you wearing pants?"

Bah! Amateurs.

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Just watched part 2 (1st clip of your post).
This is truly bizarre. One moment they throw out a member for allegedly having an Internet romance, and the females are sweetly sitting in church with humble head-scarves.
The next they are dancing to reworded pop music, and seem to be "flirty fishing"!
Unbelievable.
And then there's Phelps with his "hell bent for leather" quote.
There is a disturbing sexual undercurrent to this cult.
And the younger minx is obviously being prepared to replace the sagging matriarch, and already patronizes everyone by calling them "hon".
Fascinating.
Phelps always reminds me of the evil priest in Poltergeist 2.
A wicked face to match his cold-hearted kingdom.

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On clip 3 (2nd clip in your post).
The first part continues the bizarre hilarity.
The girls tell Louis that in their prophesy they will be expelled from America and all go to Jerusalem.
There they will work with converted Jews to bring forth the second coming.
Erm, after all their anti-Semitism, their chances of entering Jerusalem is probably less than zero.
But the young ladies bubble forth, whatever any reality.
Then it gets very sad, with testimonies from ex-members.

What is surprising is the background of material wealth and internal decorating.
They are not poor, or creatively challenged in any other way.

Especially at their protests this series shows far more men than the first.
That racy dance routine in front of Louis' chair still floors me.
Well, they said in episode 1 that the guy who makes their posters (now also in the picket frontline) was a journalist who married and stayed.
A bit like Lot trying to save the Sodomites by offering his daughter?
So I think Pastor Phelps threw out a carrot there for Louis with that meat market routine.
Maybe Louis' last chance?

Still very sad.
It just doesn't seem genuine with so much modernity and pop culture references and metaphors.

Still bizarre that they forbid a bikini, when they wear roller-girl outfits for the dance before Louis!

Yeah, I was wondering where the supposed money comes from too, but I guess they are allowed to have normal lives and normal jobs too.

Anyway, here is the final clip. Sorry for the delay but I couldn't wait any longer for it to be uploaded last night and I went to bed instead.

There seems to be a lot of very sexually frustrated people in that house...

I am amazed they ( the bbc) let this go out especially when you see what is happening with the pastor Koran burning protests in Afghanistan. Watch the video from 5:28 She talks of burning the Koran and calls it an "adulterous piece of trash " very insulting to Muslims. Louie even picks her up on it and asks her, do you know how much trouble you can get into disrespecting the Koran. Maybe she is just very ignorant or naive but by broadcasting this the BBC may have placed her in danger and others if there are more protests. Hopefully not but we all know how sensitive a subject it is.

I'm so tired of seeing the "saucy seven" (their own terminology in clip) or the cult's women.

Don't they have any grown sons?
Is there something in the water in the cult compound?
Well, I know pastor Phelps has leather, and he ain't afraid to use it.

Yeah, these guys are already at the attention of the whole world. To be honest I am astonished that nobody has done anything to them yet. The BBC put nobody in danger, and frankly does anybody really care?
This cult will self destruct anyway in time.
Sure nobody wants violence but there is only so much veterans can handle and I suspect if they keep picketing soldiers funerals that will do them more damage than anything else.

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They also protested Muslim funerals, where the daughter took a very nice picture of a Muslim boy (in clips).
I think there's a reason why these white trash cults are getting this increasing exposure.
When the news travels after the media exposure, Muslims in occupied countries will react to that too.
To keep the problem-reaction-solution scam going, radicalism needs a new cause occasionally.

Originally posted by pazcat
Yeah, I was wondering where the supposed money comes from too, but I guess they are allowed to have normal lives and normal jobs too.

They are lawyers. The way this scam works is that they piss people off in purpose. Then they get hit or something and they sue and win. That's where the money comes from.

Im mostly saddened by the youngest members,which seemed to be mostly boys, they appeared to be really intelligent until they start spouting theyre brainwashed claptrap. And that video of them dressed as orthodox jews dancing to that song damning jews would almost have been funny if it wasnt so offensive.
ALso along with something another poster said, these people have changed, theyve become more "wordly", the clothes,the pop songs, internet etc. They seem to be accepting the very culture they so hate. I am very liberal and can usually find something i like about anyone, but i dont like these people, and i think if Jesus had met them, he,d have walked right past. My inner sense tells me that if God does exist then he is not an angry jealous god, who creates souls to throw them into eternal hell if they fall in love with the member of the same sex. Nah, im not buying it.

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That's a good point, I didn't know that some where lawyers until I saw the episode.
And to be fair I'm not up on the law side of things but it sounds like if they beat the Supreme court appeal then there is something terribly wrong.
Aint the first amendment grand.

Thanks for posting this thread, it is what it is. After watching the entire docu the first thing that came to mind was....how can this happen to all these people. To be able to brainwash all those people would requier some knowledge or at least a sociopath that gets off on manipulating and ruling over people. The word of God is used as a means to an end if you ask me.

Would the cult collaps after the old leader takes his last breath or will this convinced young dad who expelled his daughter take over. By the likes of it there are enough women qualified to lead the cult...but then again women are probably considered to serve men.

Anyways...The way this girl talks about the Koran shows us how little she really understand of the word of God and worse how little she knows about what is happening in the 'real' world. Being kept from what is happening in the world must be one of the reasons why they are so convinced of their belief system.

An other thing that sticks out is the way they cope with the loss of their children to the world. They all show no emotional reasoning when it comes to the loss of their child to the big bad world. It is all very cold and calculated and it is as if these parents are dead inside when it comes to different opinions of their children.

There is something really terrible wrong with those people if not at least one parent had cried silently at night for the expel of their child. And because I refuse to belief that all of those parents really do not give a # about their child I know for certain that these people are living the life that they do because of a psychopath.

It is these rules that make the cult work. Based on fear, fear of being expelled from the ones you love. It is an shoking and traumatising example for the young ones and tools for the leaders to mould them into obedeant followers.

Maybe a specialist in de-programming cultmembers should challenge one of the senior members of the church to go with him for 10 days or so and allow him to show what is really going on in that community.....Maybe that effort will save some of these children from a twisted view of people and the world in general. But in all honesty I must add....maybe it will make no difference because the world is twisted, sick and comlicated as it is.

S&F Louis is always an interesting watch.

I watched this programme last night and i have to say it made me do 2 things throughtout the whole show

1. Sit there with my chin hitting the floor
2. Make me extremely annoyed at them

I could not believe what i was hearing and seeing. I am religious and believe in a creator, probably more than the most but what they were doing was "the work of the devil"...their attitude towards creation, death, love etc is totally backwards.

If they ever came to the funeral of a loved one of mine and started their ranting about my loved ones going to hell etc because of their love for life, i'd have no hesitate what-so-ever in expressing my feelings towards them, both verbally and physically!

What a disgusting family!

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I find reactions like yours very interesting.

First off all, let me open by saying I think the Westboro Baptist Church is a bunch of idiots. They preach a message of hate and intolerance. That being said, they are also preaching the "word of God". The outrageous things they say are things that are in the Bible.

Which brings up a new point about Religion. Speaking as someone who does not hold much stock at all into Religion, this is something I see as a typical tactic of Religious people when confronted with the actual text of the Bible. When they see something that is offensive, intolerant, and hate filled it is quickly dismissed as being a metaphor and we are told to not take things in the Bible in a literal sense. Or we get the usual excuse about how the Old Testament was the old way of doing things and the New Testament is how things are to be done now by the grace of God etc etc etc.

So with that in mind, I laugh to myself often when someone who is religious takes so much offense to what this group says, because at the end of the day they are preaching exactly what is in the Bible, only they preach it in a very literal sense.

edit to add: Anyone else think that the first girl interviewed who left the Church is just smoking hot? I feel bad for any poor guy who tries to be with her, her head is going to be mixed bag of issues.