Just saw the second available clip on "America's most hated family in crisis".
I'm disgusted by their hypocrisy.
In the old SA they would have been run out of town for their disruptive black street music and their pop-art signs.
(Most people didn't know what "fags" were back then, just cigarettes.)

If you belong to a sect that is so abstract that it connects oil spills and fallen soldiers to gay sex, then don't use modernist culture inspired by gays and other "hell-bound" people.

The guy's T-shirt has motifs and stylizing that came straight from heavy metal culture, and also became popular in rap music later. God will not look kindly on borrowing from the occult.

God will also not look kindly on colorful pop-art posters that are reminiscent of Andy Warhol - a gay art icon.

The beat of the music is that of pagan jungle cultures, and invites demons.

The women wear men's clothing (pants) and their hair is uncovered.
They should stand silently.
The guy trims his beard.
We don't even know about their teachings of Mosaic Law on eating, circumcision, menstruation or shedding seed.
They're probably all unclean.

This is a liberal family of libertines who are certainly hell-bound for their permissive ways.
They were raised for the devil and the hottest flames of hell for their sins.

They need some real old school Calvinists from SA to come there and poke that Westboro woman with a cane, and say: "You, you filthy slut, why are you wearing pants?"

Bah! Amateurs.

There seems to be a lot of very sexually frustrated people in that house...

I'm so tired of seeing the "saucy seven" (their own terminology in clip) or the cult's women.

Don't they have any grown sons?
Is there something in the water in the cult compound?
Well, I know pastor Phelps has leather, and he ain't afraid to use it.

Yeah, these guys are already at the attention of the whole world. To be honest I am astonished that nobody has done anything to them yet. The BBC put nobody in danger, and frankly does anybody really care?
This cult will self destruct anyway in time.
Sure nobody wants violence but there is only so much veterans can handle and I suspect if they keep picketing soldiers funerals that will do them more damage than anything else.

Originally posted by pazcat
Yeah, I was wondering where the supposed money comes from too, but I guess they are allowed to have normal lives and normal jobs too.

They are lawyers. The way this scam works is that they piss people off in purpose. Then they get hit or something and they sue and win. That's where the money comes from.

Im mostly saddened by the youngest members,which seemed to be mostly boys, they appeared to be really intelligent until they start spouting theyre brainwashed claptrap. And that video of them dressed as orthodox jews dancing to that song damning jews would almost have been funny if it wasnt so offensive.
ALso along with something another poster said, these people have changed, theyve become more "wordly", the clothes,the pop songs, internet etc. They seem to be accepting the very culture they so hate. I am very liberal and can usually find something i like about anyone, but i dont like these people, and i think if Jesus had met them, he,d have walked right past. My inner sense tells me that if God does exist then he is not an angry jealous god, who creates souls to throw them into eternal hell if they fall in love with the member of the same sex. Nah, im not buying it.

Thanks for posting this thread, it is what it is. After watching the entire docu the first thing that came to mind was....how can this happen to all these people. To be able to brainwash all those people would requier some knowledge or at least a sociopath that gets off on manipulating and ruling over people. The word of God is used as a means to an end if you ask me.

Would the cult collaps after the old leader takes his last breath or will this convinced young dad who expelled his daughter take over. By the likes of it there are enough women qualified to lead the cult...but then again women are probably considered to serve men.

Anyways...The way this girl talks about the Koran shows us how little she really understand of the word of God and worse how little she knows about what is happening in the 'real' world. Being kept from what is happening in the world must be one of the reasons why they are so convinced of their belief system.

An other thing that sticks out is the way they cope with the loss of their children to the world. They all show no emotional reasoning when it comes to the loss of their child to the big bad world. It is all very cold and calculated and it is as if these parents are dead inside when it comes to different opinions of their children.

There is something really terrible wrong with those people if not at least one parent had cried silently at night for the expel of their child. And because I refuse to belief that all of those parents really do not give a # about their child I know for certain that these people are living the life that they do because of a psychopath.

It is these rules that make the cult work. Based on fear, fear of being expelled from the ones you love. It is an shoking and traumatising example for the young ones and tools for the leaders to mould them into obedeant followers.

Maybe a specialist in de-programming cultmembers should challenge one of the senior members of the church to go with him for 10 days or so and allow him to show what is really going on in that community.....Maybe that effort will save some of these children from a twisted view of people and the world in general. But in all honesty I must add....maybe it will make no difference because the world is twisted, sick and comlicated as it is.

S&F Louis is always an interesting watch.

I watched this programme last night and i have to say it made me do 2 things throughtout the whole show

1. Sit there with my chin hitting the floor
2. Make me extremely annoyed at them

I could not believe what i was hearing and seeing. I am religious and believe in a creator, probably more than the most but what they were doing was "the work of the devil"...their attitude towards creation, death, love etc is totally backwards.

If they ever came to the funeral of a loved one of mine and started their ranting about my loved ones going to hell etc because of their love for life, i'd have no hesitate what-so-ever in expressing my feelings towards them, both verbally and physically!

What a disgusting family!