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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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...But HAARP is real and it is proven over and over. Here is good document that tells much.
www.cftc.gov... CL02

So to answer your question what would they benefit? Everything. For their evil plot to work the majority has to go. This so that they can begin with a new group of young unspoiled kids in a completely controlled environment, where they teach these kids exactly what they want them to know.
I guess meanwhile we as an older generation will be slowly wiped out so that there is no one left holding the torch of truth. Really I know this sounds like the greatest conspiracy ever and it is, it the most evil plot against humanity....


Thank you for the HAAP reference, I never thought it was real. Although after Japan I was beginning to wonder. The Nuclear Accident was just too convenient , just like the BP oil spill....

ENERGY is critical to an advanced civilization and freedom.

I guess meanwhile we as an older generation will be slowly wiped out

You will note that the hospitals are now DNA sampling new borns WITHOUT parental permission.

The Rockefeller medicine connection:


...In the early half of the 20th century, petrochemical giants organized a coup on the medical research facilities, hospitals and universities. The Rockefeller family sponsored research and donated sums to universities and medical schools which had drug based research. They further extended this policy to foreign universities and medical schools where research was drug based through their "International Education Board". Establishments and research which were were not drug based were refused funding...

[AND FOOD]

The myth that American Farm Bureau (AFBF) represents the interests of farmers is longstanding, though long debunked. In his 1971 book, Dollar Harvest: The Story of the Farm Bureau, Samuel Berger argued that the AFBF was:

"quietly and systematically amassing one of the largest business networks in America, while turning its back on the deepening crisis of the farmers whom it supposedly represents."

The AFBF is controlled from the top and its leadership is self-perpetuating, which is how it was designed. It was founded in the early 1900s by the New York Chamber of Commerce and funded by the Rockefellers and the Vanderbilts via the Chicago Board of Trade. [7], The Farm Bureau was designed to counter the nonpartisan, populist farm movement that was emerging at the time.

The "Green Revolution"


A new look at international intervention came during the Indian famine of ‘65 and ‘66; the most well advertised famine to date and a major boost for RF's population control campaign. Since the Chinese Revolution, India had been the bastion of the “free (enterprise) world.” However, western businessmen had long worried over its "neutralism”, “socialism” and economic restrictions on foreigners. That ended in 1958, when India experienced a foreign exchange crisis. The World Bank intervened with the “Aid India Club” and one billion dollars a year in aid. International investors like RF and the Ford Foundation, immediately seized the opportunity. The Ford Foundation stepped in with a “food crisis” team, pushing agricultural spending at the expense of housing and social services. Undersecretary of Commerce Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr., led a delegation of executives to New Delhi for the purpose of "persuading the government to adopt policies more attractive to potential investors". Rockefeller’s Jersey Standard wanted price and distribution restrictions lifted on their Bombay fertilizer plant. Petroleum producers lobbied to set up fertilizer plants to utilize naphtha, an otherwise useless petroleum by-product. The Ford and Rockefeller foundations also wanted to expand the use of their new high yield seeds, deliberately bred for large fertilizer and pesticide inputs.[9]

www.sourcewatch.org...


Healthcare rationing of course is the easiest way to get rid of "Useless eaters" I saw the same article under a slightly different title but this title seems more like something Alex Jones would like.



Doctors Establish Framework for Determining Which Useless Eaters Will be Left to Die in the Aftermath of the Next False Flag Atrocity

May 5th, 2008

Ok, so I added a little editorial color to the title.

Via: AP / Newsweek:

Doctors know some patients needing lifesaving care won’t get it in a flu pandemic or other disaster. The gut-wrenching dilemma will be deciding who to let die.

Now, an influential group of physicians has drafted a grimly specific list of recommendations for which patients wouldn’t be treated. They include the very elderly, seriously hurt trauma victims, severely burned patients and those with severe dementia.

The suggested list was compiled by a task force whose members come from prestigious universities, medical groups, the military and government agencies. They include the Department of Homeland Security, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Health and Human Services.

The proposed guidelines are designed to be a blueprint for hospitals “so that everybody will be thinking in the same way” when pandemic flu or another widespread health care disaster hits, said Dr. Asha Devereaux. She is a critical care specialist in San Diego and lead writer of the task force report.



This by the way is interesting: Guest Post: The Purpose Behind Engineered Economic Collapse By Giordano Bruno, of Neithercorp Press




posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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The European Cabal moved to the New World and saw it's opportunity to build up a nation of dumbed down, restricted, patriotic citizen and at the same time giving them to believe they are living in the Land of the Free.


We Americans are their free range slaves and Cannon Fodder (expendable troops) for the numerous wars they stage. We get tricked into them every time!

The US government allows its own people to be killed, here are the historical facts showing that they have done so. Days of Infamy and The War on Terrorism


2004 year of the slave is a good explaination of what a slave actually is and that is what Americans are - slaves.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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How is this any different now, where the nanny state is teaching children all the wrong things?


It is not. The take over of our children has been slow but sure.

You can start with the Fabian Society and John Dewey the father of "Modern Education" (Dewey was a founding member of the American Fabian Society)

First came the take over of the UNIVERSITIES


John D Rockefeller was the founder of both the University of Chicago and Rockefeller University. J.P. Morgen funded Harvard University (especially its medical school) and Trinity College.


“Through interlocking directorates, the foundation controls the Carnegie Endowment, and the Ford Foundation. While the Carnegie Endowment deals with education, as it relates to international matters, the Rockefeller Foundation concentrates on education, as it relates to domestic issues.... asis.com...


Actually THEY started with rewriting the history books and to do that...

... they went to the Guggenheim Foundation and said, “Would you grant fellowships to candidates selected by us, who are of the right frame of mind, those who see the value of collectivism as we do? Would you help them to obtain their doctorates so we can then propel them into positions of prominence and leadership in the academic world?” And the answer was “Yes.”

So they gathered a list of young men who were seeking their doctorate degrees. They interviewed them, analyzed their attitudes, and chose the twenty they thought were best suited for their purpose. They sent them to London for a briefing. (In a moment I will explain why London is so significant.) At this meeting, they were told what would be expected if and when they win the doctorates they were seeking. They were told they would have to view history, write history, and teach history from the perspective that collectivism was a positive force in the world and was the wave of the future... www.freedomforceinternational.org...


Next is Grammar and High Schools



This is where our friend John Dewey comes in.

Dumbing Down America

Dewey's philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism to socialist materialism, and the purpose of the school was to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.

In order to do so he analyzed the traditional curriculum that sustained the capitalist, individualistic system and found what he believed was the sustaining linchpin -- that is, the key element that held the entire system together: high literacy. To Dewey, the greatest obstacle to socialism was the private mind that seeks knowledge in order to exercise its own private judgment and intellectual authority. High literacy gave the individual the means to seek knowledge independently. It gave individuals the means to stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. This was detrimental to the "social spirit" needed to bring about a collectivist society. Dewey wrote in Democracy and Education, published in 1916:

When knowledge is regarded as originating and developing within an individual, the ties which bind the mental life of one to that of his fellows are ignored and denied.

When the social quaility of individualized mental operations is denied, it becomes a problem to find connections which will unite an individual with his fellows. Moral individualism is set up by the conscious separation of different centers of life. It has its roots in the notion that the consciousness of each person is wholly private, a self-inclosed continent. intrinsically independent of the ideas, wishes, purposes of everybody else.


Last is Day Care


The "Politically Correct" stance that disciplining a child is child abuse. Heck you can not even FIND information about it on the internet because we have been so brain washed into thinking a child can only be disciplined in "the approved manner" I know of parents who are literally paralyzed by the thought of disciplining their child and therefore create very dangerous situations. This also means the child will never actually regard their parents with respect. Without respect the parents opinions will be discounted.

Now that the stage was set we get the Mass Media and the Government stampeding people into giving up control of their children to the government. The results of the following trials and others lead to all of our present "Daycare Regulations" to "protect the children" and the government now controls the training of you child from infant to adulthood.


"McMARTIN" RITUAL ABUSE CASES IN MANHATTAN BEACH, CA
...The main evidence of abuse was based on what the children testified were memories of repeated, sadistic, ritual molestation. Years later, child psychologists realized that such memories can be easily implanted in children's minds by the interview techniques which were used at the time. Since psychologists and police investigators have changed their methods of interrogating young children, no more MVMO cases have surfaced in the U.S. and Canada. The children's testimony was supported by medical tests, which were believed at the time to be accurate. Years later, they were found to be useless....

Another was THE "LITTLE RASCALS" RITUAL ABUSE CASE, IN EDENTON, NC


In excess of 90 children accused a total of 20 adults with 429 instances of child sexual abuse in a day care center in Edenton NC. Among the alleged perpetrators were the sheriff and mayor. Allegations included a baby killed with a hand gun, a child being hung upside down from a tree and being set on fire.... Robin Byrum, Darlene Harris, Elizabeth "Betsy" Kelly, Robert "Bob" Kelly, Scott Willard Privott, Shelly Stone, and Dawn Wilson were charged with engaging in various sexual activities with children in the Kellys' day care in 1989.

...The out-of-town therapists, who had no such belief system, found no abuse at all: Satanic or otherwise.... As in other cases, the children will be scarred for life by the memories inadvertently planted by the interviewers. ...


Perhaps the saddest case is The Fells Acres case where the greed for political power made a travesty of justice. (I lived in a nearby town) Scott Harshbarger rode the trial to become Massachusetts State Attorney General and was the Democratic nominee for Governor of Massachusetts in the 1998. Harshbarger is also the guy who exonerated ACORN from any alleged illegal activity, in December 2009.


... The children were interrogated not only by their parents but also by police, social workers, therapists, prosecutors, and by pediatric nurse Susan Kelley. The interrogations were highly leading and coercive. Kelley used Sesame Street puppets and had Bert and Ernie plead with the children for "disclosures." ...Refusal to "disclose" was dismissed as "denial.".... The "physical" evidence presented at the trials is now also known to be worthless.

In 1992, Violet and Cheryl Amirault were offered parole. All they had to do was express contrition for their "crimes." They were offered the keys to their jail cells, but refused to use them if it meant confessing to crimes they had not committed.

When the board refused them parole, the trial judge, Paul Sullivan, revised and revoked the women's sentences to time served and ordered them released. In an unprecedented move, the prosecutors appealed the judge's order to the Supreme Judicial Court and won, keeping the women in prison.

In August of 1995, Cheryl and Violet Amirault were awarded new trials by Superior Court Judge Robert A. Barton and the two beleaguered women were finally released from prison. Gerald's bid was turned down. Both decisions were appealed to the Supreme Judicial Court, and on March 24, 1997, the Court refused new trials for all three. In a blood-chilling decision, Justice Charles Fried granted that the trials were seriously flawed. But he decreed that "the community's interest in finality" trumps niggling concerns about justice -- which, presumably, interests the community not at all.

On April 29, 1997, the Supreme Judicial Court refused to review its decision to send the Amirault women back to prison....

Violet died on September 12, 1997, [in prison] steadfastly affirming her innocence. Among her last words were, "Don't vote for Scott Harshbarger."







The Rhodes Scholars Making todays leaders (Clinton)

"There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records.... [I]n general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown...."[5]

"At the end of the war of 1914 [World War 1], it became clear that the organization of this [secret] system had to be greatly extended... the task was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing local Round Table Group. This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company.... In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and The Council of Foreign Relations were drawn up at Paris [Peace Conference of 1919..

In other words, this conspiracy was international from the start. And, beginning with the British diamond magnate, Cecil Rhodes, it was grounded in enormous wealth -- riches acquired through capitalism, not through the global socialism it envisions for all but the elite. The key players were power-driven bankers, rich corporations, and tax-free foundations that controlled the resources needed to buy the cooperation of publishers, media moguls, educational institutions, and government leaders across the political spectrum.... www.crossroad.to...





In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society, dynastic banking families in the City of London, financed the Communist takeover of Russia. Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907. By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co-ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner. [no doubt using money from Cecil Rhodes' South African gold and diamond legacy - Ed] The Communist system in Russia was a "British experiment" designed ultimately to become the Fabian Socialist model for the British takeover of the World through the UN and EU.

The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government. www.sodahead.com...



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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What I find annoying about Mr Alex Jones is the way he changes his mind and opinions to suit whatever products he want's to sell, currently is gold and silver, I noticed his coverage of the Swine Flu incident, he was raving about this being the end of everything, Martial law is coming NOW, and then after 3-4 days of that, it suddenly changed to it being "just a test" by the NWO "blah, blah, buy some seeds, blah blah, water purifiers" ect.

I do watch his broadcasts, but not for anything I can learn from him, I watch him being the ever ready salesman, quickly leading the story around to whatever pointless rubbish he wants to sell to people. If anyone saw the particular video of allegedly trying to secure "the last remaining doses of Potassium Iodide" to sell to his faithful flock? LOL A simple eBay search confirmed I could buy tubs of the stuff. It's not just the governments and media that think we are stupid, just think for yourselves why is this person telling me this, what have they got to gain? Do they happen to sell items related to their "doom" story?

The shame is some of what he says is good, but constant correlation between his fear mongering and scare tactics and what he sells is a little too obvious for me.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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did you ever read "THE GEORGIA GUIDE STONES"?
I would be curious to your take on them



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Are you kidding? The mans a genius!!!



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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federalistpaupers.com...




Allow me to restate that number. Over the last two months, the eighth largest army in the world – more men under arms than Iran; more than France and Germany combined – deployed to the woods of a single American state to help keep the deer menace at bay. But that pales in comparison to the 750,000 who are in the woods of Pennsylvania this week. Michigan’s 700,000 hunters have now returned home. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia, and it is literally the case that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.


Here is what I am talking about.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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damn that is quite an army!! I had never imagined that. The hunter-resistance!



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. The key is choosing your battles, which Alex Jones is a bit hazy on. I think that is all about competition with other new outlets with him, and that is why he blows most things way out of proportion. He has come a long way since he hijacked William (Bill) Cooper's 911 prediction. I might find one article out of his whole infowars page worth reading daily.

Below is a snippet of Cooper's radio show showing how Alex tried to cause unrest during the whole Y2K thing.
I believe this is a must listen to really expose Alex's agendas. And I can't fully trust any info source with agendas behind it.




And to the OP, You need a hell of alot more than wisdom and light or any other new age fluffy bunny crap to make a drastic change in this world.
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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you said Deer are a menace?

they ARE

I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that since they congregated at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away) that it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The cattle, which had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up, 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end, so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards it. It took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and received an education.

The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance....That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head.

At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual. Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death. I managed to get it lined up to back in between my truck and the feeder, a little trap I had set beforehand. Kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and started moving forward, so I could get my rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would I have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head, almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now) tricked it.

While I kept it busy tearing the hound out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day. Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that when an animal like a horse strikes at you with their hooves, and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape. This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously such trickery did not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like woman and
tried to turn and run. The reason I had always been told NOT to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all. Besides being twice as strong and three times as evil, the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.

Now when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it doesn't immediately
leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.

I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.....


www.bowhunting.net...





posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Planes tanks helos all have to land some time. Operation Venus Flytrap on 'em. War has casualties-FACT! The goal is not to die for your beliefs but make the other suckers die for theirs. Updated for modern wafare aka the upcoming revolution.
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Correct...When things go down and if the army is on their side the bases will be the first thing that gets attacked and taken out. Their cell towers and any towers they have to communicate with will fall. If their communications are taken out they want know what to shoot at and or kill....When all Real Americans get together and are armed any army will have a hell of a time taken them out....They have all the toys now but when needed we will take them for our side. It want be like an Iraq attack....real Americans don't play when it comes to their freedom and the freedom of their family's....Yes, it will be a hell of a time but not ALL of the U.S. Army personal will stay loyal to TPTB....I see between 1/4 and 1/2 coming to our side....



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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The more I look at Agenda 21 the more I begin to see it's real purpose and also the reason behind it.

It has much to do with brain-wash. But what is brain-wash. Some people think it means implanting idea's into someone head. Well in a way this is true. But it all depends on the stage a person is in. A mature person is more difficult to brain-wash than a child, because a childs mind is like an empty sheet.
Because we still have family-rights they have not yet succeeded in fully writing our childrens consciousness as I call it, because the child still spends a large part of his life surrounded by his family.

The way they are brainwashing us humans now is a very exhausting business for them, for we constantly seek to wake up from this dream and we constantly experience inputs that make us think about things. So it is like they are constantly pushing against the tide, pushing and pushing.
And once you have passed a certain stage you become immune for the brain-wash. That is the stage I am in and you also, many people here on ats as well. They cannot touch us any more. This is a grand failure and frustration for them.

They have tried and tried to rewrite consciousness and have frustratingly come to the conclusion that this is impossible. Once the memory cell has locked a memory it stays like that forever. If this were not true, we would be now living in the fascist world without knowing it and without complaining about it, which we are,so.

This is why they must change their approach. Their experience in testing on writing human consciousness has learned them that the most guaranteed success is when the subject is at young age, the younger the better. And the more restricted it's environment the more they will control the input.
This is why they came up with this nonsense about leaving nature to it's rest. Its a scam. An excuse to imprison people behind walls away from nature. Because THEY KNOW that what they are doing goes against the way of nature. So the subject must be completely deprived from such input.
Also they have come to conclude that even when a subject has been thoroughly brain-washed at a young age, even then the subject can wake up again once it gains input from a more natural world. I think Catthy O'Brien is a good example.

So the only way for them to have a completely controllable population, is by depraving it from their natural environment and begin working on subjects from the moment they are born. And without any presence of those of the older generation to distort the brain-wash. They will try to destroy everyone from the older generation for they are the ones holding the knowledge of the past.
Sounds much that movie the Island. I think these movies contain more truth than we imagine.
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Deer dont shoot back....especially with automatic weapons, grenade launchers and laser guided munitions or from drone planes.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Paretto principle would suggest 20% (80/20 rule)....you had better sharpen your pencil.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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I didn't read the replies, so if I echo others, I am then another with this thought. I'm all for an armed populace.

An interesting study was done of cities back in the "old west" days. Back then, the US had a "gentrified" east coast - where laws against guns were in place - and then the, well...heh...wild west, where guns were presumed on virtually every adult one met.

Crime was examined between a number of pairs of east/west cities that were seen to have similar populations, same percentage of manufacturing, mercantile, and so on, relationships...and they found that crime - across the board was lower, and in some areas very significantly, in the towns with no gun laws.

Not too surprising, though. When a person suspects the person they're talking to of packing, that person tends to be more polite.
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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interesting. im getting a lot interesting arguments here. gonna have some deep thoughts on this. thanks



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
I find it hard to believe that AJ, who I dont think even graduated from college (attended but likely did not complete his degree requirements)., who is a self confessed "redneck" who admittedly chews tobacco and used to get into frequent fights in HS has the intellectual capacity and erudition to put out the investigative work that he does. He is likely a shill in the "disinfo war" and, if so, that makes one wonder about Midas Resources (sponsor and owner of Genesis Networks which I heard might in turn be owned by ABC?). I wonder if Midas keeps a "list" of it's buyers. Hmmmm.


I don't think Alex's personal habits have anything to do with the veracity of his information. Just so you know... Attacking the messenger is a "disinfo agent-like" behavior. Might want to avoid that in the future.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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I don't listen to Alex Jones, basically because he is being manipulated by the Illuminati. My understanding of the IIluminati, is that if they allow and feed people like Jones to train the public. That if there ever were an uprising by the American Public they would have the people they want in place and having Alex Jones telling them who was the best person to follow. I do not think the Alex Jones is cahoots with the Illuminati, but I think that they have their plans and they use him. If he really was a hinderance, he wouldn't be talking, period. He'd be dead. No, they are just giving you a bone to play with called Alex. Just let Alex tell the public to stop going to work, to stop participating, and watch how fast he goes away. No they want you engaged and feeling like you are actually doing something, but they play it to always be on top. The only way you can win them is not to play. The whole thing that Alex does with that guy that is dying and telling everything about the Illuminati? Really, you don't think they know who that is? You don;t think maybe they set that up? It doesn;t even worry them, they gave it to Alex and have set the whole thing up so he and everyone else believes. It's what we call a hand- off. They are in control. If they weren;t more people would be dying until they were.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
I find it hard to believe that AJ, who I dont think even graduated from college (attended but likely did not complete his degree requirements)., who is a self confessed "redneck" who admittedly chews tobacco and used to get into frequent fights in HS has the intellectual capacity and erudition to put out the investigative work that he does. He is likely a shill in the "disinfo war" and, if so, that makes one wonder about Midas Resources (sponsor and owner of Genesis Networks which I heard might in turn be owned by ABC?). I wonder if Midas keeps a "list" of it's buyers. Hmmmm.



Were is your evidence, what can you prove is wrong about alex jones, not speculation but fact? that's right.. I didn't think so...





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