Aleister Crowley - In Search Of The Great Beast.

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Hello ATSer's

I have for you today a fantastically insightful documentary into the dark and depraved world of Aleister Crowley.

Please enjoy.



























To mods: I looked but couldn't find this on search.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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For those of you who are not familar with Aleister Crowley heres a link;

Wki Link (Not Leak).


ALS



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Just a little bump because I know it we take people a while to watch the videos.

ALS



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Hello. Yes, it does take a while to watch them; I've watched three since opening the thread. Actually I'm not sure if I will complete the series of them.

I've had a kind of macabre, twisted curiosity about this man, which seems to have been appeased by what I've seen so far.

After reviewing the videos, his psychopathy is not much of a puzzlement. A child with no toys, no joy; without warmth. Cold, distant parents, in a cold distant environment.

Little wonder sadistic, masochistic obsessions developed. Reminds me of a serial killer, in a way. If he'd only just killed his mother first, perhaps the others could have been spared. Sad, but true.

Such a bright man. Both interesting and sickening how sexual perversions can become so pervasive, they dominate over every other thing.

In the second video, the experience he had in bed sounds a little like an episode of sleep paralysis. I've heard others talk about how frightening it can be. Frightening, yet, intriguing. He perceived it as a spiritual experience, as others also have commented the same thing.

The association with the Bushes, through Barbara, as well as Ron Hubbard, was a shocker!
Whew. Interesting.
Good thread. Creepy, but good.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Hello. Yes, it does take a while to watch them; I've watched three since opening the thread. Actually I'm not sure if I will complete the series of them.


I hope you do, they are brilliantly informative.


I've had a kind of macabre, twisted curiosity about this man, which seems to have been appeased by what I've seen so far.


I too have had a strange feeling to investigate this twisted man.


After reviewing the videos, his psychopathy is not much of a puzzlement. A child with no toys, no joy; without warmth. Cold, distant parents, in a cold distant environment.

Little wonder sadistic, masochistic obsessions developed. Reminds me of a serial killer, in a way. If he'd only just killed his mother first, perhaps the others could have been spared. Sad, but true.

Such a bright man. Both interesting and sickening how sexual perversions can become so pervasive, they dominate over every other thing.


Yes you can quite clearly see how he became the man he became. The consant preaching by his father seem to have set him on his course with the occult. The lack of his mothers love also seems to be a big factor in his disturbing reletionships with women (and men).


In the second video, the experience he had in bed sounds a little like an episode of sleep paralysis. I've heard others talk about how frightening it can be. Frightening, yet, intriguing. He perceived it as a spiritual experience, as others also have commented the same thing.


I too have had the same expierience as he, it can be quite a wake up call. I made a thread about it here should you wish to read it.

ALS



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Thanks for putting these videos together.He was an interesting man to say the least.
I have all his books but haven't gotten around to reading them yet, perhaps these videos will give me a reason to.
Thanks again



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by gatewaywithin
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I have all his books but haven't gotten around to reading them yet, perhaps these videos will give me a reason to.
Thanks again


You might not want to after watching these
.

ALS



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:58 AM
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I love Aleister C he was mental but knew a fair bit.

Also Dr John Dee


I have watched these previously and think the guy who plays Crowley is funny


This got me into his rituals in Scotland and some people go as far to say that he summoned the Lock Ness monster



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lucifer84
Also Dr John Dee


I hadn't heard of this man, he seems like an intresting fellow. Thanks for bringing him to my attention


I have watched these previously and think the guy who plays Crowley is funny


He is isn't he, infact I found all the actors in the documentary to be of a very good standard.


This got me into his rituals in Scotland and some people go as far to say that he summoned the Lock Ness monster


It would not suprise me if he did
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ALS
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Lucifer84

This got me into his rituals in Scotland and some people go as far to say that he summoned the Lock Ness monster


The actual history of what he did on Loch Ness is even weirder.

He purchased the Boleskine estate on the Loch for the sole purpose of performing the Abramelin operation, a key group of rituals in ceremonial magic which theoretically allows the magician to communicate directly with the higher self. He began the series of rites, but was called to Paris by the chief of the hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and never got around to getting back. He finished the Abramelin rites while in the Sahara.

The interesting thing is, Boleskin is now supposed to be haunted. The theory goes that since Crowley never went back to complete the rites, the area was never properly banished. The estate has passed through several hands, including those of former Led Zeppelin guitarist and Crowley enthusiast, Jimmy Page. But Page rarely went there, and the people whom he hired to stay and look after the place didn't hold on to their jobs very long, being terrified at the apparitions and weird phenomena they witnessed.

Boleskin is now in private hands, and the owner(s) do not speak publicly about it.
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posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
The actual history of what he did on Loch Ness is even weirder.


Starting to notice a pattern here.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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I've been to Boleskine house once before. I live just North of the estate, in Inverness. It's definitely got a very weird ambience about the place. A few of us dare each other to head down to the estate for a look (when were in our late teens). A couple of the group saw some spooky people in the forest leading to the estate house, and also heard some weird noises. Personally I saw a dark figure walking down the road towards us and decided that discretion was the better part of valour


I'm not masively up to speed with Crowley and the goings on up at Boleskine, but he definitely turned that estate from a beautiful part of the Highlands, to a spooky no-go area!



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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Its believed he summond many demons and such and left without banishing them. No wonder the called him "The lair of Boleskine "!!

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posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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Beware before becoming involved with this evil person.

You will probably meet the devil.

I am not joking.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Care to elaborate???



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
Beware before becoming involved with this evil person.

You will probably meet the devil.

I am not joking.





On The Christian Devils and their Devillish God.

Part of the problem with defining a "devil" is that Christians have a different definition of "the devil" or "a devil" to Thelemites, for whom the Christians "are" generally considered to be devils, and their genocidal, bigoted, human hating Biblical definition of a deity is practically a definition of "the" Devil. Similarly for an ideological Capitalist, Socialists and Communists are devils, while to a Socialist or Communist, it is the Capitalists and religious fanatics who are generally the "devils" in human form. Similarly to those in the GLBT crowd, the religious homophobes are devils, while to many religionists, it is the GLBT crowd who are devils.

Certainly if one uses Crowley's method, which was a combination of ritual necromancy, sex magick and the use of shamanic psychoactives and narcotics, then "the Devil (i.e., the evil god of the Christians)" may certainly appear; it has certainly happened to me on numerous occasions, however it would simply be a subjective experience such as a vision, hallucination or a powerful dream. One might ask "What does the Devil look like?" however one must understand that often when persons of African descent have visions of Jesus, he is of African appearance, just as a German Christian may have a vision of a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus, or a Christian in the Middle East may have a vision of a Semitic Jesus; these are all subjective experiences produced inside the human mind.

"The Devil" in my view would be an evangelical Capitalist and religious fanatic, much like his Christian followers who are all devils themselves; indeed I have spent many years debating and discussing with such Christian devils.

Part of the problem of Christianity is that Christians are evoking (calling upon) a deity whom Richard Dawkins accurately describes as "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

If one is convinced by theism, it does not necessarily follow that the Creator can be defined as the primitive and savage Bronze Age deity of the Israelites, but when a person chooses that evil definition of a deity to evoke, they are essentially summoning a devil, which is why the Christians speak and behave like devils themselves.

That which we admire, we can come to personify, and revering the human hating Biblical deity is a recipie for transforming a human being into a devil. Certainly Crowley declared himself to be the overt enemy of the Christian devillish definition of a deity, as have I. Only an evil person would revere an evil diety such as the Biblical god. As far as I am concerned the worship of the Biblical deity is simply "devil worship," and the consequences of this have been the last 1600 years of Christian tyranny, bigotry, slavery, paternalism, wars, genocides and Inquisitions, all of which can be justified by the Bible.

Lux
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posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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After reviewing the videos, his psychopathy is not much of a puzzlement. A child with no toys, no joy; without warmth. Cold, distant parents, in a cold distant environment. Little wonder sadistic, masochistic obsessions developed. Reminds me of a serial killer, in a way. If he'd only just killed his mother first, perhaps the others could have been spared. Sad, but true.


That is how many born into the Illuminati grow up (from speaking to someone who did and other research.) It is part of the mind control aspect of things and breeding the compassion out of them if you will. So his connection with the Bushes and Hubbard are not surprising as they are also Illuminati. There was well thought out research done that Jack the Ripper was actually a 13 year old Crowley as part of a ritual to bring about the end of the Whore of Babylon. Looking into the Jack murders they were very occultically ritualistic. Can't find it anymore but it was a good read.

I've got ambiguous feelings about him based on my involvement with Thelema in the past. He knew what he was talking about but was certainly a dark individual.

As far as the "devil" part of it, one of the things that people don't consider is that what we often refer to as "demons" or "dark ghosts", and often these were the spirits that were conjured up, are denizens of the lower astral realms which are very dark and service to self oriented.


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posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
So his connection with the Bushes and Hubbard are not surprising as they are also Illuminati.


Crowley had no "connection" to the Bushes nor Hubbard. He met Hubbard once. In a letter to Germer, Crowley called Hubbard an "idiotic louse". In a letter to Parsons, Crowley warned him to stay away from Hubbard because he was a scam artist.


There was well thought out research done that Jack the Ripper was actually a 13 year old Crowley as part of a ritual to bring about the end of the Whore of Babylon.


lol. A 13 year old Crowley did not live in London, nor did he at that time understand anything about "the Whore of Babylon". It was only later in his scholarly life that he came to identify the "Whore of Babylon" with the Egyptian goddess Nuith, and Kabalistic concept of Ain Soph.


Looking into the Jack murders they were very occultically ritualistic.


Actually, there was nothing the least bit "occultic" about the Ripper murders if by "occult" we refer to the Hidden Wisdom, which was the sense that Crowley and other occultists use the word.



He knew what he was talking about but was certainly a dark individual.


I don't think he was a "dark individual" at all. However, he was always completely misunderstood by the unlearned.



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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In the last of the videos I posted it states that Barbara Bush's grandmother (or mother I can't remember) Stayed with Crowley, it is believed that on the night they perform "sex" magick. So there is a connection with the Bushs.

Also how you can't agree that Crowley was a dark individual is beyond me, he manipulated and brainwashed most that he met, he summoned dark spirits to do his bidding and he participated in heinous sex acts such as torture and rape.

ALS



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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Actually, there was nothing the least bit "occultic" about the Ripper murders if by "occult" we refer to the Hidden Wisdom, which was the sense that Crowley and other occultists use the word.


I know, I know, occultic means hidden but...


'One avenue, which was never explored by the police of the day, mainly due to their ignorance, was occult ritual murder, including the doctrine that certain organs should be removed from murdered prostitutes, killed at pre-arranged sites, which were to be located at the four points of the compass.' During his research Edwards realised that the victims were carefully laid facing north, east, south and west. 'How do you calculate the probability of finding four bodies randomly distributed in a city so that they form the precise points of a cross?' he asked.

He then did what no other researcher has done before: measure the distances from victim to victim and take compass bearings to discover if there was a pattern between the sites where the women were murdered. 'I found that by joining some of the sites together, you created two equilateral triangles; a sacred symbol which, in occult doctrine, Satan devised to be used in worship of him,' Edwards said. By joining the sites in a different way, a Christian cross was revealed. After examining the position of the fifth and last victim, 25-year-old Marie Jeanette Kelly, Edwards realised that all the women were killed within a 500-yard radius and that, by joining the sites together, it was possible to create the Vesica Piscis, a fish-like symbol worshipped by the early Christians.

By murdering his victims and leaving their bodies in that way, the killer intended a tribute to Satan. Edwards said the organs removed by the Ripper - the heart, kidneys, genitalia and womb - were those routinely used in black magic rituals.


www.guardian.co.uk...

And I realize that he was often misunderstood by the "unlearned." However, I was involved with the OTO for a number of years as well much other esoteric/occult study and can hardly be considered "unlearned" and I still find him to have been a dark individual. Did he know his stuff? Was he misunderstood and misinterpreted? Absolutely. But he also was what I would describe as "dark"



It was only later in his scholarly life that he came to identify the "Whore of Babylon" with the Egyptian goddess Nuith, and Kabalistic concept of Ain Soph.


Well of course he didn't have as full an understanding as he did later in life but a quote from the first video in the series above

"The young Crowley grew to loath the religious doctrines laid down at the Reverends...special school... he still continued to study the bible but in particular certain passages especially those in the Book of Revelations. He became drawn to reading about the false prophet, the scarlet woman, and the beast and then one day he came to a disturbing conclusion..."

It goes on to say that he sexually experimented with his family chamber maid who was kicked onto the street when his mother found out and became a prostitute. He later claimed she met her demise at the hands of Jack the Ripper.

I was not stating his connection to the Jack murders as fact, just that what I read made a pretty good case. Found the link, you can check it out yourself and make your own decisions.



A 13 year old Crowley did not live in London



(DATA EXTRACTED FROM 'THE SPIRIT OF SOLITUDE' BY ALEISTER CROWLEY. WHILE CROWLEY LEAVES MANY 'MISING LINKS' IN THE 'AUTOHAGIOGRAPHY', IT IS POSSIBLE TO EXTRACT A BASIC FRAMEWORK OF THE TIME SEQUENCE)

# Age 12 - CROWLEY LEAVES BOARDING-SCHOOL; RETURNS TO LONDON TO RECOVER FROM KIDNEY INFECTION BROUGHT ABOUT FROM STRESS RELATED TO ABUSE FROM SCHOOL (PRESUMABLY).
# AGE 13 - CROWLEY AND HIS MOTHER MOVE TO POLWORTH ROAD, STREATHEM


bookoflaw276.tripod.com...


The grid page within Liber AL is a simple riddle. Each three-word series is given in progressive stages. Much has been made of this grid over the century. However, there has never been the real solution or meaning given. The NOX symbol given within the grid is the location of the 4th murder of Jack the Ripper in Whitechapel, London in 1888. Most of the words connected by lines on the page correspond to church locations within the district of Whitechapel in 1888. They all lie in proximity to a murder location. That Aleister Crowley was Jack the Ripper is beyond doubt. The student should read and study the raw data provided in Appendix A: Aleister Crowley a.k.a., Jack the Ripper. All may be well assured that the 'circle' has now been 'squared in its failure'.


bookoflaw276.tripod.com...


# ALEISTER CROWLEY PROGRESSED ASTROLOGY CHART (CROWLEY PROGRESSED CHART FROM LEAMINGTON TO LONDON.
ASPECTS ARE SIMILAR OR THE SAME DURING ALL THE RIPPER MURDERS)
# NEPTUNE, MARS, AND MECURY IN ASPECT
# SATURN AND URANUS IN ASPECT
# ASTROLOGICAL DIAGRAM CORRESPONDS TO GEOMETRIC SHAPE FORMED BY WHITECHAPEL MURDERS
# EACH JACK THE RIPPER MURDER APPEARS DURING SAME ASPECTS
# TO SEE THE GEOMETRIC SHAPE, THE STUDENT NEED ONLY DO THE FOLLOWING: 1) DRAW A LINE FROM NEPTUNE TO MARS 2) NEPTUNE TO MERCURY 3) MERCURY TO MARS 4) SATURN TO URANUS 5) COMPARE WITH 1888 WHITECHAPEL MAP IN CHAPTER II.


Here is the cover page from which the above segments were extracted:


LIBER AL vel LEGIS etiam MYSTERIUM INIQUITATIS SUB FIGURA LXII ΑΛΛΑ Exposition of Liber AL vel Legis II, 76 IMPRIMATUR Pro. Coll. Summ. 1°=1□ Frater Michael Row Your Boat Ashore Anno C ☉ in 18° ♈ April 8, 2004 E.V. 2:20 AM C.S.T.

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