FBI asks public for help breaking encrypted notes tied to 1999 murder, page 3
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reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 10:25 PM by SlyingFaucers
reply to post by Hoopinator



The reason I was suggesting a few independent copies is because it doesnt look like it is 100 percent legible in all cases. Also, it looks like on the first note you missed the (AESM) on the first line.



reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 10:43 PM by SiKFury
reply to post by Hoopinator



Think I have a few differences than you not many. I left out the unusual spacing but all other distinguishing marks are there.

First note

( M N D M K N E A R S E – N – S – M – K N A R E ) (A C S M )

T F R N E N P ? N S E N P B S E R C B B N S E N P R S E 1 N C

P R S E N M R S E P R E H L D C N L D N C B E ( T F X L F T C X L N C B E )

A L – P R P P I T X L Y P P I Y N C B E M G K S E 1 N C D R C B R N S G P R S

E

W L D R C B R N S E N T S 6 N E N T X S E – C R S L E – C I T R S E W L D

N C D E

A L N C P N C B E T S M E L R S E R L S E U R G L S N E A S N W L D

N C B E


( N O P F S E N L S R R E N C B E ) N T E G D D M N S E N C U R E R C B R N E

( T E N E T F R N E N C B R T S E N C B E 1 N C )

( F L R S E P Q S E D N D E 7 1 N C B E )

( C D N S E P Q S E O N S E 74 N C B E )

( P R T S E P R S E O N R E D E 75 N C B E )

( T F N R C M S P S O L E M R D E L U S E T O T E W L D N 1 N L D N C B E )

( 1 9 4 W L D ` S N C B E ) ( T R F X L )




SECOND NOTE


A L P N T E G L S E – S E E R + E

V L S E M T S E – C T S E – W S E – F R T S E

P N R T R S E O N P R S E W L D N C B E

N W L D X L R C M S P N E W L D S T S M E X L
D V L M T 6 T U N S E N C B E X C

( M U N S A R S T E N M 6 N A R S E )

K L S E – L R S T E – T F S E – T R S E – M K S E N – M R S E

( F A E 6 N S E S E N M R S E)

N M N R C B R N S E P T E 2 P T E W S R C B K R S E

8 6 M L S E 7 4 S P R K S E 2 9 K F N O 8 O L E 1 7 S R T S E

35 6 L E C L G S E U U N N T K F D K R S E P S E S H L E

6 S 1 M T C S E H T L S E N C U T C T R S N M R F

9 9 . 8 4 . S 2 U N E P L S E N C R S E A O L T S E N S K S E N R S E

N S R E O N S E P V T S E W C D N C B E ( 3 X 0 R L )

D N M S E N R S E 1 N 2 N T R L E R C B R N S E N T S R C R S N E

L S P N S E N G S P S E M K S E R B S E N C B E A V X L ` R

H M C R E N M R E S C B E 1 / 2 M U N P P L S E

D – W – M – 4 M P L X D R L X
edit on 29-3-2011 by SiKFury because: just removing some notes



reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:27 PM by thePharaoh
thanx op....
ok....i was trying to work this out..and halfway through i have come to a conclusion....this is one of two things...now dont laugh..listen.....its either a betting slip or a murder shopping listlol...im going to go with a "complicated bet"..

ok this is what iv noticed...the letters 'SE' appears quite a bit..i think this means start and end...so each word is seperated by the letters......the letter X which appears i think means "&" so in the first note in the brackets on the first line is (TF& LF...)....now the letters that are confusing me are "ncbe" they appear at the end of each line...so we can remove these for now to simplify...anyway this is what im reading in the first note...the letters in capitals is where im stupmed..i think WLD, means win lose draw.....anyway this is what i have..its a work in progress:

start from second line:

frequent pub person including
person maybe pre holding ncbe( tf &lf tc& l NCBE)
AL - PRPPIT & LYPPIY NCBE. carlisle win lose draw NCBE
AL WIN LOSE DRAW NCBE GLEN WIN LOSE DRAW NCBE
(first person 71 ncbe) or (first PR on day end 71 ncbe)
(second person 72 ncbe)
(third person 75 ncbe)
(something something...USE TOTE win lose draw, win lose dra ncbe)
194 lb ncbe (trf& l NCBE)

tote could be a betting term or could mean carry.
there are betting terms in letter are...WLD,TOTE, there seems to be names of tracks in here as well and figures which could mean money...the letter E before the money could mean euros...well he is scottish

i`ll have a proper look after work...peace


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:32 PM by nyccodeman
This is not a true code. This is an uneducated drug dealer's shorthand. It breaks down who he sells to, how much he sells, a short description of how he knows them, recognizes them, or if he doesn't know them.

Want to solve it? Talk to a narc or street cop that remembers St. Louis back in 1999.
"NCBE" that commonly shows up could easily be Nose Candy Buys Eightball or NiCkel Bag Everyday.

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Page 1:
This page is cleaner and was his original list of customers and states what they buy and how often. There weren't that many and he knows them well so he took the time to make it nice and neat.
Opening Parentheses is literally the title of his drug list.
Paragraph 1 - A run on sentence of people and what they buy.
Paragraph 2 (all in parentheses) - individual orders for people living all on the same block or apartment building. No directions needed because he is very familiar with the place. 71, 74, and 75 are house or apartment #s.
Paragraph 3 - last 2 lines of the page. Two custom orders


Page 2:
This was made as he expanded his sales reach. It was made after the fact because he was having trouble remembering everyone and where to go. He jotted it down fast and divided the sections because he constantly had to use it as a reference of who to sell to, how much to sell, and where he was supposed to go to do it.
Paragraph 1 - individuals he sells to and how much. The two with XL at the end are for Extra Large. These customers get the most bang for their buck.
Paragraph 2 - a group of people he sells to that are all in once place. That's what the hyphens are for. It's a "crew"
Paragraph 3 - These are directions. Some of these people he had to make driven deliveries and these are directions so he doesn't forget.
Paragraphs 4 and 5 - Notes to himself, special instructions for somebody's drug order that he doesn't want to forget


And that's it. Find out which of these junkies killed him now.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:42 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by nyccodeman



I get the feeling it is not a true code either. It is something made for reference for sure which is why it cannot be broken. SE could that refer to South End or South East maybe? I like your idea that it is a drug running list where only he knew his abbreviations.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:52 PM by sepermeru
reply to post by nyccodeman



According to members of his family, McCormick had used such encrypted notes since he was a boy...


Pretty precocious drug dealer, I suppose? I can't rule out your theory, but it doesn't seem to fit the profile of this guy, who was known to be into cryptography, at all. Plus, it's hard to imagine that after 3+ years no one at the FBI would have noticed if it significantly matched with drug codes.
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