Another bully gets what he has coming in high school locker room.

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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I've seen interviews of both the kids involved, and I think that there is more to the story than just this fight. That being said, the smaller kid - if he is telling the truth and was bullied by the bigger guy previously - shouldn't have waited to throw a punch, and film it.

Similar to previous posters, my father taught me the "don't start it, but end it" rule, and I had my share of fights in high school dealing with this (not being bullied, but someone running their mouth and throwing a punch). But, he also taught me to be smart about it; don't film it, don't take photos, don't brag about it, and don't go overboard.

Should kids be punished for fighting on school grounds? Yeah. Someone not involved could get hurt, and it's not the place for it. But if you are truly defending yourself and haven't instigated it, you shouldn't receive repercussions. I graduated high school in '08, and even when in school then the fighting was dealt with internally (meaning, suspensions and what not, no police), so I think location and parental pressure weighs heavily on this.

Expanding on this, kids and their parents are becoming soft, and it's sad. In one of those interviews, the "bully's" father is crying over folks' negative reaction to his kid acting like a jerk... really? He should have taught his son some morals and how to properly fight.




posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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Little man syndrome.

I used to get it all the time from short arses who used to think punching the tall kid was the way to get some sort of street cred. It taught me to defend myself quite fast.

Glad the little sod got what he deserved.

'Have you learned your lesson?'




posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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I did the same thing.

Had a hard time because my dad had cancer at the time (he's had no issues since) and a mormon kid decided he would pick on me. He picked on me a lot.

And one day in the gaming room I just grabbed his throat and choked him to the ground where some other kids pulled me off of him. My dad wasn't happy. But his parents had pulled him out of school by the next two weeks after that.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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aw man, i was hoping for a more brutal beatdown. doesn't look like much damage was done here. that little douche in the first vid got destroyed. his limp will remind him not to bully.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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OWNED FOOL!


That was awesome...god a love when dip #s get what they have coming to them...the lad dropped him good and proper. Might teach him to be less of a little smart ass douche...golden...

EDIT: Oh, I just responded to the first video. I just watched the second one, and it was good too. I love the way he's like "when I talk to you, you talk back"...who's the bully now.


edit on 30-3-2011 by WhizPhiz because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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Anyone have another link to this? It wont let me open it.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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You will burn in hell or you will die....great terrible things to teach your children. More to the story as always.
I would like to know the facts before I sit in judgement of this human. if the 12 year old bullied the 16 year old then I have no problem but sounds like more was going on. 8th grader fighting a sophomore ...sounds a little strange.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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Let me explain the "bully who is not just approved of but often, demanded thanks to nut case religion" No . READ THIS and those of you who think beating your kids; "ey buba, that ell, ash a em... lern em!. Thats the the kindest way I can best explain the "wise old bible and its non-sense" and idiots who this is any less then bully crap we have heard about, are in serious need of a bible hitting them in the head or MUCH better at least a thought; about schools, and parents and official child focused terror. And parents who like anyone who enjoys hurting others, most of all a child, "oh do you have a special place in hell all for you, and well, why spoil the fun, you'll find out" My parents were the kind are the best anyone ever could have for very special reasons.

The most is my best friend had a parent my buddy's so called "dad" who my parents got him locked up, don't know it was my friends bruises , and welts that my Mom noticed (noticed one night when he stayed over, always wanted to and did so as much as I know he could and my parents welcomed him, never any question or problem about that) one night he stayed over in fact I had come after seeing what I could not believe. Mom noticed when she washed his clothing, he did want Her to. It seems many who suffer abuse are ashamed they are some how responsible. Ask any one who's been there. His pants and shirt HAD BLOOD seeping into them, some of the welts were open lacerations, I saw him get some of them and said to his father something I don't remember, but he stopped, and gave a look so creepy, somehow I knew this guy would not hesitate to kill me. I grabbed my friend and RAN like I never ran, home. Oh good god... You know there are real monsters out there. My brother since adopted, never ever cried when hurt even when I was playing with him, he was hit by a car and I saw his leg, heard it "SNAP! Christ I ball if I get a hang nail. But this night he cried, then stuffed it, and he just Utterly Begged, PLEASE can your parents adopt me? I am so afraid to live anymore. He was 10 years old, I was 11 when he was contemplating killing himself. He did not have to ask my parents (being smarter and observing everything) had started by then the adoption and very quietly. I knew nothing. It was in the works when my best friend (and kind so far to this day more wiser and kinder, then anyone I could imagine) you could not imagine my pain when in my sublime stupidity saw and then dawned on me what he was only to a small extent going through. Later at my house, He whispered to me, afraid even to let the cat overhear him; "Would I get anyone mad if I asked your Mom and Dad to be your brother? But not if you don't want to be my friend anymore, because then it's Ok, if you say no. Because being your friend, thats what's important" Wow for a 10 year old kid, I was the one felt ashamed at often my child silly ness That made me cry, and like I never before I felt his pleading what nightmare his life was. I only saw him get torn apart once by his bastard father, I went, dragging my friend at once to my Dad who said after the ONLY time he used the f word in our house, ever "I want you to repeat this very slowly, and in font of your Mother( before this my Dad did not see my friend, he went straight to my room) But then saw Dad him stubble into the bath room, and said to me; "I want to talk to you right now, and I want to know EVERYTHING you know... And tell me the truth! Make sure all of it, and in as much detail as possible" My parents soon had him adopted, and I had my best friend as my new brother. Don't anyone DARE call Jonny my half brother, he's my brother, in a way always was. The blessing, gift, some kind of Golden Karma are my parents, and my life, and my brother. Both parents were very kind and wise, being aware of this poor kids nightmare. In case anyone was wondering my Dad was actually quite strict, but never with J. he said and I had no trouble with him saying. "Of hell he has had a life time of, on Earth, no more, no way. Now he's free" Dad did maybe twice yell a bit at him but it was like he was physically "wounded". He said he was ashamed to disappoint my parents. (in all ways...) but this kids bio-nightmare dad was a beast. I do know someone did pay a visit and made sure this guys dad-demon was not physically able to hurt anyone again. Always thought was my Dad who to use an old phrase, "dropped a dime" Many years later I discovered Mom had dated the cousin of Sam Giancana before Dad. Never asked her about anything this this guy was at our house a few times, and he of course knew Jonny, and his "living-death before life" So, you do the math? I know she would have never asked anyone for that creature to be, rearranged. Mom is beyond the best, and the bottom line was both parents were very much caring and kind, and very smart. Sure now he's my brother he argues with me, is bigger and now we do get into arguments, sometime's big ones, for a short time we don't even notice the other there, for an hour or as much as two! Frankly he really sucks at poker... He's to honest. But kicks my ass at just about any sport, except judo. And we are near equal at chess. I am patient and persistent, his patience? Is glacial.

He went into medicine, becoming an expert at PTSD, and remains an advocate/therapist for victims of torture, abuse and neglect. He's a champion of civil rights and has been in areas of the world I don't have the balls to go with out an armed, and serious escort. I'm serious. He's fearless, and has no anger towered anyone. Even the abomination that his bio-mutant father and "blind, deaf and dumb s**" mother was. I guess the so-called father came close to decapitating his wife, who stayed by her man until she was put by him in a wheel chair. What is it with stupid, I'm no giga-mind but god I'm not an oil slick for common sense either... Just don't get it. Anyway bro's still very active, in his work, now married and adopted two kids. Both abused. And being handsome as hell my parents had to limit the calls and "oh just in the area and so dropped in" from I swear every girl who could, tried to... and I know some did no I din't tell, he had some fun and games for free, God owned him that. And he could have got me killed so many times but always managed to be not watching even when he would smile at it all. Thats just super class. Those bully's? Let them know fear, no the horror. Let God say when they beg Oh shut up, you are so worthless, etc, for a minimum, Eternity. If there is a God then damn it, HE OWES IT TO my brother!



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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My personal story is as such. At one point, in my younger years I was a bit of a bully. The day I stopped was the day I punched a kid in the nose and he hit me back.

While we would all love to have peace loving situations occur, the world (and maybe unfortunately) doesn't operate on that level all the time. There is a time and place for everything. Sometimes walking away/ignoring does the trick. Sometimes standing up for yourself is the effective means to stop the bullying.

It is nearly impossible to teach your child how to exactly handle every situation they will encounter. The best I have told my two young sons was the following:

Don't start something you are not willing to finish.
Actions have consequences.
Choose your battles wisely.
I will not always be there nor will your brother...there may be a time you must defend yourself.

Thats all I can really do. I cannot, just as we all cannot, always fight our children's battles. The heavier set kid in the first video I believe showed great restraint. He did what he had to and nothing more.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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i soon will have a daughter. by teaching her in a fun way, by age 8 she will know how to put a bully down. kids should know how to defend themselves.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
My personal story is as such. At one point, in my younger years I was a bit of a bully. The day I stopped was the day I punched a kid in the nose and he hit me back.

While we would all love to have peace loving situations occur, the world (and maybe unfortunately) doesn't operate on that level all the time. There is a time and place for everything. Sometimes walking away/ignoring does the trick. Sometimes standing up for yourself is the effective means to stop the bullying.

It is nearly impossible to teach your child how to exactly handle every situation they will encounter. The best I have told my two young sons was the following:

Don't start something you are not willing to finish.
Actions have consequences.
Choose your battles wisely.
I will not always be there nor will your brother...there may be a time you must defend yourself.

Thats all I can really do. I cannot, just as we all cannot, always fight our children's battles. The heavier set kid in the first video I believe showed great restraint. He did what he had to and nothing more.


very wise, i appreciated it.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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Ok so everyone who is saying that this kid used excessive force.....

So what the bully had it coming, I bet the bully never bullies that kid again....

If the victim had not been so brutal the bully would have come back with some of his friends and probably done the victim over again.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by KoolerKing
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Ya that is right....blame the liberals. Get a clue and wake up. You have to stick up for yourself and friends but sometimes you have to walk away. You have 2 minute clip here but what if yesterday the big kid was the one that bullied the little kid? Every situation is unique. Sometimes violence happens and I hope the kid that got laid out learned his lesson.
I do blame the liberals. They have worked hard to ruin the nation I love.


Every few years America is run by Republicans, they could easily turn back any progress made by Democrats on the front, but they don't, that's telling.

This is a class issue. You'd much sooner find Liberals in Britain who support him, than right-wingers. Why? Because Liberals in Britain are the working class, and those on the right are middle to upper class.

I'm sure people in the projects aren't campaigning for self defence to be outlawed in school. Despite being Liberals for the most part.

I'd go one further like others have any say it's actually an establishment conspiracy. Teaching and training children to take abuse without responding. So when they grow up they're good little citizens.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
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Wow, could you have been further away from my point? The answer is NO. I blame liberals for the wussification of American boys and men. Punishing someone for self defense? Would neocons support that? Get real. Liberals, feminists, and demonkrats. They push that agenda.


Actually you're wrong. Liberals in America are largely working class. While Republicans are mainly middle class and live in nice houses.

You really think the working class are wussified in comparison to the middle class? You must be mad. The Middle Class has no struggle, they're the ones living in bubble wrap thinking self defence is unreasonable. Those living in low income areas know it's necessety. Especially in schools(as they have to go to crap schools with thugs, not feminine frat boys).

Middle Class America is softer than the Pillsbury DoughBoy. I'd take the average working class Liberal in a square-dance over any middle class American, neocon or otherwise.

Why is Political Correctness worse in America, despite America being largely right-wing and Europe being mainly left wing? Could it be that the link between Political Correctness and Political allegience is made up?



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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In my opinion, the 'zero tolerance' rules where the victim is punished along with the bully have more sinister reasons behind them than just looking to curb violence.

To me, it's all about getting kids accustomed to being punished by unjust laws and to not question authority. If they grow up being punished by unjust rules, when they are older and are harassed by the tax-feeders for doing nothing wrong, they are less likely to fight back and reform things.

At that point, it's just a part of life.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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To those engaged in the "it's the fault of the democrats/republicans" hogwash, I'll just say this: if you don't comprehend divide and conquer, then you are the product of it. Get past that nonsense.

As to the topic at hand, I have to admit that I love seeing bullies get their due. I've had my fair share of run-ins with these types, and what can I say, karma in action is a beautiful thing.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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I remember when I was in school and if you were bullied and then you decided to fight back against the bully, you were NOT punished. The bully was and then their parents were called.

Kids today are spoiled brats and sorry but if a kid was bullying my child and my child fought back I'd be happy they stood up for themselves. They should not be punished since the schools dont seem to do anything anymore when it comes to bullies.

That kid deserved what he got, maybe next time he will think twice before he bullies another.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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I'm sixty years old and still asking myself why people can't leave others alone or get involved for good reasons, it's really no wonder that this world is in the state it's in.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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That is a good possibility. Here in the states, teachers are mostly liberal demonkrats. Thus we could both be right.



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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I fought my bully at age 12. We where on a school trip for a week, something I didn't look forwarth to because of the bullying by this girl. The teachers made the mistake of placing us at the same lunch table and one day I just couldn't take it anymore and snapped, I litteraly whiped the table with her face. After they pulled us appart I went to my room and about half an hour later, two of my teachers showed up there and brought me cookies. She was told she got what she had coming and I suddenly had a lot more friends and even a boyfriend after that, lol. My parents where never informed about the incident.

My own daughter is almost 13 now and I also tell her to always defend herself, never show a sign of weakness that might trigger bully behaviour in others and not to worry about school sanctions. If she ever gets into a fight at school and she was defending herself (not starting the fight) then I'll deal with the school.





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