OMG! Radioactive Contamination Levels Drop in Japan!

Originally posted by SirMike


Trace amounts of plutonium are not uncommon in soil samples, regardless of the location,

yes, that's true, but weapons grade Plutonium is mostly Pu 239, while reactor grade (esp MOX fuel due to it being re-used fuel) will have more of the heavier isotopes which can of course be determined by proper testing.

already discussed here, btw:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


now, why aren't they analysing the amount of soil contamination systematically, one would expect both gov't and utility desperately want to know. imho, several people know very well where the Pu came from, but aren't releasing any information, for reasons we can only guess.

the entire catastrophe needs to be thoroughly investigated, many things just don't add up, like why they were unable to prevent the explosion of block #3 a full day after #1 had already blown. these explosions are very suspicious all by themselves, but how many people have actually taken a look at the layout of these plants?

www.beyondnuclear.org...

there is no containment to speak of and what's there offers little volume overall and the top part consists of removable parts. does anyone really believe the explosion 'bypassed' the allegedly undamaged reactor vessel? just look at the sectional drawing and you'll understand.

reply to post by SirMike


Is it not true then that plutonium 'signatures' are identifiable? The spectral signature of every atomic test conducted is accounted for and cataloged for reference. Each facility's material is identifiable. (Except maybe North Korea's - I wouldn't know for sure.)

It has been my understanding that it is not really rocket science to identify what facility produced or housed which fuel (and they hold quite a bit of spent fuel it at the facility.)

Please correct me if I am wrong.

reply to post by Essan


Two days ago the level of contamination found in the sea water was announced at three times the level from the previous test (1000 times normal to 3,335 times normal)

Today...

...caught the NHK ticker on the ocean level INCREASE

4,385 times higher 330 meters from the plant



Everything is under control... no immediate risk to health... move along now...

OH!! BTW...

From IAEA spokes person... regarding levels taken by their own team...

2 million bq per sq meter in soil found 40km from plant which is double IAEA standards for evacuation...

Mimister Edano acknowledged this in a short press conference and said the government will closely monitor that and IF levels stay high they will consider increasing size of evacuation area. Meanwhile the USA has set the evacuation area for Americans at 80km

www3.nhk.or.jp...

Originally posted by Essan

Findings of nuclear contamination have dropped sharply in Japan, even in Fukushima prefecture, where the latest food samples showed no traces of radiation for two days.

At the peak last week, a total of 21 communities in four prefectures—plus Tokyo—had imposed restrictions on tap-water consumption by infants. Only four such curbs remain in place, with none outside Fukushima prefecture. Atmospheric radiation also is dropping.

online.wsj.com...

But that might mean we're not all going to die!

So where have you gone OP ? you start this ridiculously uninformed thread then abandon it, radiation levels going down ? can you actually read ? they've found harmful radiation levels at twice the distance of the evacuation zone and the levels in the sea are rising dramatically.
I think your paymasters need a new mouthpiece, Comical Ali was more believable than you

reply to post by Bonified Ween


Well, no.
If they ran a story like this and someone had insider info on this story coming out, then they could make one hell of a profit by purchasing lots of stocks before it comes out. And just that little bump before everyone knows its BS can make someone millions if not billions. Not subscribing to conspiracy here but just saying...

reply to post by SirMike

Try to not look retarded any more please, you are insulting the rest of the readers's intelects...

Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear Plant

A long-lasting radioactive element has been measured at levels that pose a long-term danger at one spot 25 miles from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, raising questions about whether Japan’s evacuation zone should be expanded and whether the land might need to be abandoned.

The isotope, cesium 137, was measured in one village by the International Atomic Energy Agency at a level exceeding the standard that the Soviet Union used as a gauge to recommend abandoning land surrounding the Chernobyl reactor, and at another location not precisely identified by the agency at more than double the Soviet standard.

The measurements, reported Wednesday, would not be high enough to cause acute radiation illness, but far exceed standards for the general public designed to cut the risks of cancer.

While the amount measured would not pose an immediate danger, the annual dose would be too high to allow people to keep living there

NY Times

reply to post by yellowbeard


I've just been sitting back watching people running aorund panicking as usual

The point is: atmospheric radiations levels have dropped. The story is quite correct. The initial release - caused by the explosions after the diesel generators were wiped out by the tsunami - has now ceased. However, there is of course the fresh issue of radiation leaking into the sea. That's a different story. And unlike the radioactve iodine that killed millions of people in America and Europe this week, this will not reach our shores. Well, except perhaps California

Meanwhile, elsewhere in Japan, deadly nuclear reactors are a god-send:

Amid nuclear crisis, one tsunami-devastated Japanese town embraces its atomic power plant

I don't know where you're looking but I see no signs of panic,well maybe from some of the more highly strung members on here, but in the real world life is continuing as normal, if anything most people have stuck their fingers in their ears and are loudly chanting "la la la" so they can't here any bad news
I would just like to be told it as it is without the editing, there's nothing we can actually do about it apart from live with the cards we're dealt, but I don't appreciate being treated like a child and kept in the dark, I'm a big boy now and wish to be treated as such

Originally posted by Juanxlink
reply to post by SirMike

 

Try to not look retarded any more please, you are insulting the rest of the readers's intelects...

When you’ve done better in life than a GED and a dead end job at them mall you come talk to me pal.

Originally posted by Essan
I've just been sitting back watching people running aorund panicking as usual

Ah yes needless panic in the face of lies from TEPCO on the real situation...

Good thing Edano 'strongly suggested' to TEPCO that they start telling the truth (that suggestion is about equivilent to a swift kick to the gonads for context)

So....

High level of iodine-131 detected in Fukushima

The operator of the disaster-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has detected 5 million times higher than the legal limit of radioactive iodine in seawater around the plant.

Tokyo Electric Power Company says it detected 300,000 bequerels of iodine-131 per 1 cubic centimeter, or 7.5 million times higher than the legal limit in samples taken around the water intake of the No. 2 reactor at 11:50 AM on Saturday. It also found 200,000 bequerels or 5 million times higher than the limit in samples taken at 9AM on Monday. Monday's sample also shows 1.1 million times higher than the national limit of cesium-137 whose half-life is 30 years.

The power company has been checking concentrations of radioactive materials in the seas around the plant as water containing high levels of radioactive materials has been pouring out of the cracked concrete pit near the No.2 reactor. Tuesday, April 05, 2011 13:57 +0900 (JST)

www3.nhk.or.jp...

Now that set of readings was taken SATURDAY (and Japan is a day ahead of us) and just released hours ago.

Also it is at the INTAKE sea water vent... we can only imagine what it is like at the exhaust vents

But heck... this escalation is nothing to be concerned about according to Essan... but they did post a ban on fishing and fisherman who were out catching fish found they were not being accepted at port

OH and it has only just begun... they have NO IDEA how to stop this. They have just last night started dumping 10,000 tons of 500 time higher level water on top of the on going leaks. This is already causing an international incident

Originally posted by Essan
The initial release - caused by the explosions after the diesel generators were wiped out by the tsunami - has now ceased.

Care to charter a helicopter and do a fly over and prove that?

reply to post by zorgon


If only I had a passport, the money and the time!


(though it's fair to say that I've not really been following latest developments so maybe there has been further atmospheric releases of radiation, other than the more widely publicised leaks of radioactive water?)

reply to post by Bonified Ween

The contamination doesn't just disappear, unless they used some of the CLTC technology, but that is hush hush tech.

Please elaborate on this technology you mention.

reply to post by Essan

And unlike the radioactve iodine that killed millions of people in America and Europe this week, this will not reach our shores. Well, except perhaps California

Joke all you want mate, there are people who are dying and many more who will die in the future as a *direct result* of these meltdowns.

You do *realise* that radioactive Iodine 131, will probably kill millions of people years down the line, don't you?

To all those that imagine the Iodine 131 will pass over you and you'll fall to your knees, clutching your chest and die within minutes, like a scene from some second rate Hollywood film...you're wrong. That is not how this stuff, if in sufficient quantities, will kill people.

The Iodine 131 will flood your thyroid gland (especially if you're young-youngish) and kill you years later from cancers, directly from the intake of this crap.

That's why iodide/iodine supplements are given out in order to 'flood' the thyroid gland to prevent uptake of the radioactive iodine.

Million dropping dead won't happen immediately, but may well happen years from now.

That's not such a laughing matter...is it?

reply to post by spikey


millions of dead people, cancer everywhere....

wait a minute, Chernobyl supposedly killed a million people too, too bad that there are very typical cancers you'd expect from radioactive isotopes, namely thyroid, bone and leukemia (blood)...


you can do some research, too but let me start with asking whether you see a spike around the year 2000 in the UK statistics?

info.cancerresearchuk.org...

if not, ho long you'd think it would lie dormant? with iodine 131 lasting only 3 months, such a spike should show reveal itself easily, shouldn't it?



PS:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

It is unlikely that the cancer burden from the largest radiological accident to date could be detected by monitoring national cancer statistics. Indeed, results of analyses of time trends in cancer incidence and mortality in Europe do not, at present, indicate any increase in cancer rates -- other than of thyroid cancer in the most contaminated regions -- that can be clearly attributed to radiation from the Chernobyl accident.

reply to post by Essan

No worries TEPCO says;