U.S. Army kills Afghans who were speeding on bike!!!, page 6


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reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 09:25 AM by Jepic
reply to post by stygmartyrZA



Do you know the difference between a chest rig and a bulletproof vest? Geez...
Just in case, they were wearing the first, which is offensive in nature since it's used to carry spare ammo and an assortment of grenades.
edit on 29-3-2011 by Jepic because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 10:59 AM by SirMike
reply to post by deltaboy



Calling BULL# on Rolling Stone

The online edition of the Rolling Stone story contains a section with a video called “Motorcycle Kill,” which includes our Soldiers gunning down Taliban who were speeding on a motorcycle toward our guys. These Soldiers were also with 5/2 SBCT, far away from the “Kill Team” later accused of the murders. Rolling Stone commits a literary “crime” by deceptively entwining this normal combat video with the Kill Team story. The Taliban on the motorcycle were killed during an intense operation in the Arghandab near Kandahar City. People who have been to the Arghandab realize the extreme danger there. The Soviets got beaten horribly in the Arghandab, despite throwing everything including the Soviet kitchen sink into the battle that lasted over a month. Others fared little better. To my knowledge, 5/2 and supporting units were the first ever to take Arghandab, and these two dead Taliban were part of that process.

The killing of the armed Taliban on the motorcycle was legal and within the rules of engagement. Law and ROE are related but separate matters. In any case, the killing was well within both the law and ROE. The Taliban on the back of the motorcycle raised his rifle to fire at our Soldiers but the rifle did not fire. I talked at length with several of the Soldiers who were there and they gave me the video. There was nothing to hide. I didn’t even know about the story until they told me. It can be good for Soldiers to shoot and share videos because it provides instant replay and lessons learned. When they gave me the video and further explained what happened, I found the combat so normal that I didn’t even bother publishing it, though I should have because that little shooting of the two Taliban was the least of the accomplishments of these Soldiers, and it rid the Arghandab of two Taliban.

www.michaelyon-online.com...#-on-rolling-stone.htm


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:16 AM by wheelz1971
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL



It is about time the Americans picked on somebody capable of fighting back. For years now they have had these asymetrical little brawls, with poorly trained (not asymetric) , poorly equipped, unsupported groups. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they were to try and take on a modern, well trained, and resourced Country(s). They may very well have their psychotic smiles wiped off their faces.



reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 11:18 AM by BRITWARRIOR
Originally posted by Somehumanbeing


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post by Aliensdoexist



Yeah that's it, I picked up a bad habit of calling it chest-webbing. (which is embarassing actually)

reply to post by larrydavid





END THREAD

The soldier are to be congratulated, clearly they are Taliban insurgents to be fair motorbikes are the Taliban's main mode of transport, i thought everybody new that


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 12:49 PM by Jepic
reply to post by mwood



It had to be the usual "I'm disgusted at..." post. It's done. The duo that got killed were militants. Overkill but justified and legitimate.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 12:57 PM by liejunkie01
reply to post by SirMike



I agree, this is no different then people spitting on our soldiers that came back from Vietnam. I bet that more than half of the people posting on this site have never even seen a gun. Our boys are over there dealing with "people" that have no sympathy for westerners.

Let me be the first to say, go getem boys. Thats one less to worry about.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 01:18 PM by SirMike
reply to post by pshea38



You know what makes me giggle when I read posts like yours? It’s the whole “If someone invaded my country and killed my people, I would fight them too”. If that viewpoint is widespread and universal in its application, why the hell don’t they fight the Taliban according to your logic? Many of the Taliban fighters are Pakistani, most are Pashtun but not all and many even come from places like Egypt, the UK, Kuwait, Yemen and so forth.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 01:26 PM by malachi777
Alright, If you go to 07 seconds, you will see the passenger on the motorcycle raise his right hand which appears to have a weapon in it. Second, if you go here on youtube, www.youtube.com..., you can listen to their conversation stating that these guys were already trying to kill the American soldiers earlier. Open your eyes and follow through and yo will see the truth... Go USA!!!!!
edit on 29-3-2011 by malachi777 because: Was 07 seconds, not 14.



reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 01:44 PM by Turkenstein
Originally posted by deltaboy
www.liveleak.com...

Thats the worst warcrime I had ever seen. Killing a couple of innocent Afghans who were speeding on a bike. Obama will tried by war crimes for this.



Mistakes will happen when you are in a war. Especially when you are in a war with a cowardice and selfish moral. Anyone who uses the civilians as their sheilds and camoflauge is going to cause a few instances of mistaken identity. I think any person who is sitting on the side lines crying, "how could they," should be put on the front lines to help the soldiers make the important decisions. After all, they have the infinate wisdom and all-knowing of hindsight. The soldiers aren't the bad guys, it is the people who put them/or drawed them there.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 01:45 PM by Turkenstein
Originally posted by SirMike
reply to
post by deltaboy



Calling BULL# on Rolling Stone

The online edition of the Rolling Stone story contains a section with a video called “Motorcycle Kill,” which includes our Soldiers gunning down Taliban who were speeding on a motorcycle toward our guys. These Soldiers were also with 5/2 SBCT, far away from the “Kill Team” later accused of the murders. Rolling Stone commits a literary “crime” by deceptively entwining this normal combat video with the Kill Team story. The Taliban on the motorcycle were killed during an intense operation in the Arghandab near Kandahar City. People who have been to the Arghandab realize the extreme danger there. The Soviets got beaten horribly in the Arghandab, despite throwing everything including the Soviet kitchen sink into the battle that lasted over a month. Others fared little better. To my knowledge, 5/2 and supporting units were the first ever to take Arghandab, and these two dead Taliban were part of that process.

The killing of the armed Taliban on the motorcycle was legal and within the rules of engagement. Law and ROE are related but separate matters. In any case, the killing was well within both the law and ROE. The Taliban on the back of the motorcycle raised his rifle to fire at our Soldiers but the rifle did not fire. I talked at length with several of the Soldiers who were there and they gave me the video. There was nothing to hide. I didn’t even know about the story until they told me. It can be good for Soldiers to shoot and share videos because it provides instant replay and lessons learned. When they gave me the video and further explained what happened, I found the combat so normal that I didn’t even bother publishing it, though I should have because that little shooting of the two Taliban was the least of the accomplishments of these Soldiers, and it rid the Arghandab of two Taliban.

www.michaelyon-online.com...#-on-rolling-stone.htm


Throw the editor on the front line and see if he is willing to shoot for his own life.


reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 01:54 PM by Rastus3663
reply to post by deltaboy



Not defending those guys; but it is possible that they were fleeing an ambush site. Motorcycle teams used to ambush us with rpgs, ditch the launcher, then flee. It was next to impossible to catch them. It was so bad in Zormat that the district govoner (Afghan) outlawed motocycles. The Afghan army would then shoot anyone riding a motorcycle on sight.
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