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Originally posted by neowakko
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by hp1229
So this is what you are going to resort to now? I mean, the insults have been amusing to a point but now you are just looking pathetic.
Do you admit you have no other argument here? You've already admitted you dont understand the term logic, so thats a start....
But you're right, looking at the subject subjectively certainly means that I must be a pimp, as you keep calling me
(by the way, insults are against the ATS TOC...I havent reported you yet but you might want to stop before someone does)
I have plenty to discuss but there is no point since obviously you have a fixed view point and so do I. You've alreazdy admitted that you have a uncivilized logic. Once again you are trying very hard to drive your point across which only means that you expect me to believe everything you say and accept your logic. But I chose not to
My apologies if the clarification seemed as insult to you. I was only comparing the ideology that is normally portrayed by certain types of management(pimp) in a certain profession (prostitution) of the modern economy.
I'm waiting for you to actually present an argument back by more that your opinion, thats all.
I am set in my opinion that arguments without any factual basis are pointless, you are right in that. And I am set in my belief that someone who would use a term like 'self proclaimed socrates' when nothing even remotely close has been said is a bit pathetic, so you are right there too.
Two in a row, well done!
again, I dont care if you accept my logic. The difference between you and I is that I am using logic. You have used none.
And please dont even try and back out of your multiple posts of insults. If you arent man enough to own them, dont throw them out there.
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I can agree to disagree. If we proceed any further it would just be like an argument over which religion is better.
not bad. i grant thee +1 INT
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Well. I can ask you the same questions. Do you have the evidence that legalized prostitution works for a country like US ?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by hp1229
Again, logic would dictate that you need more that "It will, I says so" as reasoning, if you are going to claim something as fact.
Do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?
Yes I do. Look at the Netherlands, like has already been pointed out.
Ouch. Falling fast my friend. Pull up. Pull up.
Well good for you then.
Perhaps you should point this out and recommend to the economic advisors during the next election.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
True just like any other industry. However do you agree if this is a good way to make a living ?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
It will as sex is integral part of the culture and a big money maker (legal or illegal) on the internet and media (tv, movies, magazines etc) in general.
How so? Is there data to back up this assertion?
I mean, if prostitution became legal tomorrow it doesn't mean I'm going to rush right out for those services. Nor do I suspect you or anyone else would.
In fact, since prostitution is illegal - thereby creating a black market with huge profit incentives - it's probably more rampant already than if it were legalized.
It's great for some people and terrible for others. To me it's not about my opinion on whether it's respectable employment. It has to do with whether or not prostitution is an actual crime. As far as I can tell it's legitimate exchange of money and services with no victims. There is no reason to criminalize behavior that renders no victims.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
Never in my life. Still wouldnt EVER think that it is my right to tell another what they can or cant do with their body.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Well. I can ask you the same questions. Do you have the evidence that legalized prostitution works for a country like US ?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by hp1229
Again, logic would dictate that you need more that "It will, I says so" as reasoning, if you are going to claim something as fact.
Do you have ANY evidence to back up your claim?
Yes I do. Look at the Netherlands, like has already been pointed out.
Ouch. Falling fast my friend. Pull up. Pull up.
Well good for you then.
Perhaps you should point this out and recommend to the economic advisors during the next election.
Again, you are presented with fact that completely disproves your argument, so you resort to strawmen and personal attacks.
You can do better than that.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
True just like any other industry. However do you agree if this is a good way to make a living ?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
It will as sex is integral part of the culture and a big money maker (legal or illegal) on the internet and media (tv, movies, magazines etc) in general.
How so? Is there data to back up this assertion?
I mean, if prostitution became legal tomorrow it doesn't mean I'm going to rush right out for those services. Nor do I suspect you or anyone else would.
In fact, since prostitution is illegal - thereby creating a black market with huge profit incentives - it's probably more rampant already than if it were legalized.
It's great for some people and terrible for others. To me it's not about my opinion on whether it's respectable employment. It has to do with whether or not prostitution is an actual crime. As far as I can tell it's legitimate exchange of money and services with no victims. There is no reason to criminalize behavior that renders no victims.
Actually there are victims, if you consider how prostitutes are abused by their customers.
then there is the underage prostitutes,
today.msnbc.msn.com...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Hi Storm!
I have not had sex with a prostitute. But I have known several and been close friends with them. Does that count?edit on 3/28/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by neowakko
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by hp1229
So this is what you are going to resort to now? I mean, the insults have been amusing to a point but now you are just looking pathetic.
Do you admit you have no other argument here? You've already admitted you dont understand the term logic, so thats a start....
But you're right, looking at the subject subjectively certainly means that I must be a pimp, as you keep calling me
(by the way, insults are against the ATS TOC...I havent reported you yet but you might want to stop before someone does)
I have plenty to discuss but there is no point since obviously you have a fixed view point and so do I. You've alreazdy admitted that you have a uncivilized logic. Once again you are trying very hard to drive your point across which only means that you expect me to believe everything you say and accept your logic. But I chose not to
My apologies if the clarification seemed as insult to you. I was only comparing the ideology that is normally portrayed by certain types of management(pimp) in a certain profession (prostitution) of the modern economy.
I'm waiting for you to actually present an argument back by more that your opinion, thats all.
I am set in my opinion that arguments without any factual basis are pointless, you are right in that. And I am set in my belief that someone who would use a term like 'self proclaimed socrates' when nothing even remotely close has been said is a bit pathetic, so you are right there too.
Two in a row, well done!
again, I dont care if you accept my logic. The difference between you and I is that I am using logic. You have used none.
And please dont even try and back out of your multiple posts of insults. If you arent man enough to own them, dont throw them out there.
I dont agree with your opinion and you dont agree with mine. Lets just leave it at that.
You can justify all you want to prove your point and thats fine.
Its sad if you consider my comments as insults.
I can agree to disagree. If we proceed any further it would just be like an argument over which religion is better.
not bad. i grant thee +1 INT
I certainly do not believe in any religion.
I believe in humanity if it helps you understand my simple point.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
Never in my life. Still wouldnt EVER think that it is my right to tell another what they can or cant do with their body.
Originally posted by Maslo
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
I do not have sex with prostitutes, nor did I ever had, or plan to do so. But I have no right to regulate sexual activities of other consenting adult persons. The same I expect from others.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Actually there are victims, if you consider how prostitutes are abused by their customers.
then there is the underage prostitutes,
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
Never in my life. Still wouldnt EVER think that it is my right to tell another what they can or cant do with their body.
Even if its your own child, spouse, family member or relative?
2nd line.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
True just like any other industry. However do you agree if this is a good way to make a living ?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
It will as sex is integral part of the culture and a big money maker (legal or illegal) on the internet and media (tv, movies, magazines etc) in general.
How so? Is there data to back up this assertion?
I mean, if prostitution became legal tomorrow it doesn't mean I'm going to rush right out for those services. Nor do I suspect you or anyone else would.
In fact, since prostitution is illegal - thereby creating a black market with huge profit incentives - it's probably more rampant already than if it were legalized.
It's great for some people and terrible for others. To me it's not about my opinion on whether it's respectable employment. It has to do with whether or not prostitution is an actual crime. As far as I can tell it's legitimate exchange of money and services with no victims. There is no reason to criminalize behavior that renders no victims.
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by hp1229
True just like any other industry. However do you agree if this is a good way to make a living ?
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by hp1229
It will as sex is integral part of the culture and a big money maker (legal or illegal) on the internet and media (tv, movies, magazines etc) in general.
How so? Is there data to back up this assertion?
I mean, if prostitution became legal tomorrow it doesn't mean I'm going to rush right out for those services. Nor do I suspect you or anyone else would.
In fact, since prostitution is illegal - thereby creating a black market with huge profit incentives - it's probably more rampant already than if it were legalized.
So now its about whether or not its a good way to make money? You really are all over the board. I dont think digging ditches is a way to make money. Should that be illegal now?
Indeed. Digging ditches does not involve selling your body to make a living nor does it involve
answering questions to your children down the road who their real father if a real prostitute becomes pregnant due to her profession
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Actually there are victims, if you consider how prostitutes are abused by their customers.
No one is advocating abuse. Abuse and Prostitution are two different things. Parents sometimes abuse their kids, but we're not going to make parenting illegal.
then there is the underage prostitutes,
That is also not being advocated here.
Keep prostitution separate from other crimes. No one is advocating abuse OR child prostitution.
People also get hurt with guns... Would you outlaw them?
.edit on 3/28/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: of so many "R"s...
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I have a question, how many of the pro prostitution posters have sex with prostitutes?
Never in my life. Still wouldnt EVER think that it is my right to tell another what they can or cant do with their body.
Even if its your own child, spouse, family member or relative?
2nd line.
That's a good question, how many would like to see there child become a prostitute, it isn't that glamorous.
Originally posted by hp1229
Even if its your own child, spouse, family member or relative?