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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
1)So now poverty does have something to do with it? A couple pages ago you said it was a completely different subject.....
2)Citing credible sources is not plagiarizing.
3)You are correct that it is not JUST america that has issues with sex. But it is most definitely and issue in america.
Man did you ever hit the nail on the head with point #3......people are so uptight about sexual behavior you would swear some of them just stepped off the Mayflower.
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Originally posted by Jinglelord
As a matter of eating my words you can look here and see that forcible rape rates in Nevada seem to be on the higher side. Not the highest for sure but in the higher side. Around 40 per 100K with most states being around 30 per 100K and the high ones being 50 per 100K.
As this seems to be all over the place I'm not sure it is telling about legalized prostitution. If it was telling we would expect to see Nevada as either highest or lowest as it is the only state in the union with legalized prostitution.
bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov...
Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Ideally it would need to be looked at by county examining the counties where it is legal vs the counties where it is not. Of course this would likely also give misleading information as the counties have a smaller population.
The other thing to look at is that I wouldn't exactly call Nevada Brothels affordable or within the reach of most people for any kind of regular patronage. If it was universally legalized and accepted the pricing would become more reasonable while still providing a good living for sex workers. Many of these women can make in a busy brothel can make in excess of 100K working for only 6 months out of the year. And quite a few do much better. And this is after they give the house 50% and pay to rent a room. (This covers operating and legal expenses for the brothel)
I think if it was universally legal more brothels would need offer better packages for the women to attract the best and also need to lower prices for the clients. Everyone wins except the owners.
On the rape issue it is a commonly held belief among psychologists that rape has more to do with asserting power than it does with the sex act itself. If this is truly the case I wouldn't expect to see any change in the rape rate as in the legal brothel trade the man has little power and the woman has all the power.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
1)So now poverty does have something to do with it? A couple pages ago you said it was a completely different subject.....
2)Citing credible sources is not plagiarizing.
3)You are correct that it is not JUST america that has issues with sex. But it is most definitely and issue in america.
edit on 29-3-2011 by hp1229 because: typo/edit contentedit on 29-3-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
reply to post by Jinglelord
So it would seem that it has no measurable increase or decrease would it not?
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
1)So now poverty does have something to do with it? A couple pages ago you said it was a completely different subject.....
2)Citing credible sources is not plagiarizing.
3)You are correct that it is not JUST america that has issues with sex. But it is most definitely and issue in america.
edit on 29-3-2011 by hp1229 because: typo/edit contentedit on 29-3-2011 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)
Well Poverty is part of the reasons besides several others which we have discussed and talked about such as forceful prostitution, molestation etc etc. Poverty in itself is a broad subject. Why are you going back and forth what was discussed couple pages ago where Poverty was used in a totally different context?
2) What is credible when it comes to Media or the Web and News? I am not indicating that citing source is plagiarizing. I am saying that copy pasting of contents from a link or re-typing the content is plagiarizing.
3) Sex might be an issue when it comes to openness and honest discussion about sexuality not just in US but possibly in other countries. Prostitution on the other hand IS an issue and also a byproduct of a society where sex is often abused, misunderstood and people have several misconceptions about sexual practices.
Doesnt knowledge, wisdom, real life interraction with other people count for postings on this thread? Why does everything has to be pointed to a Link on the website? or is this the future where we live our lives and believe others only if they present a web link?
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Man did you ever hit the nail on the head with point #3......people are so uptight about sexual behavior you would swear some of them just stepped off the Mayflower.
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
reply to post by Jinglelord
So it would seem that it has no measurable increase or decrease would it not?
The way I look at things sometimes is that the more we give, the more we will expect. Human nature is such where over a period of time, it will crave for more. Think about it this way when a person cannot afford to pay for a legal screw so he/she decides to Rape and possibly murder the victim because its free.
You can't really cite this as an example, if someone decides to resort to anything because they cannot afford it THAT makes them a crimnal plain and simple. It would not contribute to such behavior.
How many people(married/unmarried) do you think would pay for the screwing service and be able to sustain the cost of living and taxes in this economy? Only the one's that can afford to pay per screw will go for the service. What about the others who cannot afford to pay for it?
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
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However it has been supported by facts that if prostitution were LEGALIZED these problems may very well go away.
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
reply to post by Jinglelord
So it would seem that it has no measurable increase or decrease would it not?
If it were legal competition makes the price go down. If you do not have the money for it you do without or *gasp* it may actually help people become SOCIAL and less introverted.